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Old 10-27-2009, 08:12 AM   #1
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Australia dvds vs blu rays

more and more the companys are charging the same for dvds but u get less for your money.. the extras are not being included plus they are making dvd video and sound downgraded just to sell the blu rays better and to push ppl into buying blu rays before they are ready to..

i think blu ray is pretty overrated too.. blu ray discs seem to be upconverted dvds really.. just "superbit DVD" quality..
the audio isn't much better if that than dvds use dto be when they were being pushed on to ppl..

i 'd love to see a public backlash.. forcing companys/studios to offer better quality on both formats


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Old 10-27-2009, 08:22 AM   #2
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Your wrong about Blu-ray's PQ and AQ quality not being a big jump.

DVD:
720 x 480 with a total pixel count of 345,600
8.5GB of storage
lossy compressed audio

35mm film:
scanned in for editing at 4096 x 2160 or 2048 x 1080(over 90% of movies scanned in at this resolution) with a total pixel count of 8,631,360 or 2,157,840
4K scans requiring terabytes of storage
audio recorded and mixed in 24bit/48Khz PCM

Blu-ray
1920 x 1080 with a total pixel count of 2,073,600
dual layer discs hold 50GB of data.
audio stored in 24bit/48Khz PCM or other lossless audio compression codecs.
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:52 AM   #3
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Hahaha, I hope your not serious, you would need a very small tv at a relativly large viewing distance to not be able to tell the difference in video, but the audio will still be noteably different. I hope the OP was bieng funny/sarcastic/witty, or has very bad hearing and sight.

lol, the very idea of superbit dvd's bieng as good as blu ray is hillarious.
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:53 AM   #4
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more and more the companys are charging the same for dvds but u get less for your money.. the extras are not being included plus they are making dvd video and sound downgraded just to sell the blu rays better and to push ppl into buying blu rays before they are ready to..

i think blu ray is pretty overrated too.. blu ray discs seem to be upconverted dvds really.. just "superbit DVD" quality..
the audio isn't much better if that than dvds use dto be when they were being pushed on to ppl..

i 'd love to see a public backlash.. forcing companys/studios to offer better quality on both formats


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Old 10-27-2009, 09:09 AM   #5
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Blu kills DVD no doubt about it
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:36 AM   #6
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Right there with you. blu-bren, exactly why do you buy Blu-ray or even come onto a Blu-ray site if you see no difference in PQ or AQ with the discs themselves, don't like the features associated with Blu-ray and have a problem with their artwork? Seems like a waste of time unless you're here to stir the pot.

Anybody who can't see or hear the difference between Blu-ray and DVD seriously either needs to visit the optometrist or the audiologist. If not that then they should open up the instruction manual for their gear and check your setup.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:52 AM   #7
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I think bluray is amazingly better, but I still buy dvds if -

a) its not out on bluray!
b) the blu is a shitty transfer

but, bluray is 100000 times better and people who can't see that must be blind
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i think blu ray is pretty overrated too.. blu ray discs seem to be upconverted dvds really.. just "superbit DVD" quality..
the audio isn't much better if that than dvds use dto be when they were being pushed on to ppl..

i 'd love to see a public backlash.. forcing companys/studios to offer better quality on both formats
It's pretty noble to start a backlash against shoddy DVDs, but I think you might be starting a backlash against yourself with the comments about BDs being overrated...
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:01 PM   #9
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i'm guessing you don't have a true home theatre system. meaning hdtv via hdmi cable. digital amp with the appropriate speakers (minimum 5.1). because your post sounds very naive. i don't expect one member here to agree with you. everyone & anyone with the correct set up can only be blown away with blueray. there's no way anyone can react any less. you might as well say dvd was no advance over vhs. laughable.....
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:04 AM   #10
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Your wrong about Blu-ray's PQ and AQ quality not being a big jump.

DVD:
720 x 480 with a total pixel count of 345,600
8.5GB of storage
lossy compressed audio
Using NTSC stats probably isn't appropriate since we're in an Aussie forum.

For us DVDs are 720 x 576 not 720 x 480.
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:21 AM   #11
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now ur just being silly with that . ofcourse it was.. but blu ray over dvd. all marketting speel to get ppl to help the economy..
no i dont have a big tv or hdmi HT system..
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Old 10-28-2009, 07:27 AM   #12
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Some blu ray is only 25gb so doesn't get to take full advantage of the 50gb to spread its legs & offer hd audio

Some only have dolby & dts audio... Warner seems to only offer 16bit dolby hd atm still.. but I think they are working on releasing some dts master audio soon.. though still might be 16bit.. can't confirm on that

But in general, the quality of the 50gb with 24bit/48 audio looks + sounds great.. soo much better than the dvd. Kingdom of heaven extended blu ray looks & sounds amazing much better. One of my fav movies

My next blu ray buy is looking towards T-Salvation.. hopefully the 3min extra version is good
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now ur just being silly with that . ofcourse it was.. but blu ray over dvd. all marketting speel to get ppl to help the economy..
no i dont have a big tv or hdmi HT system..
Perhaps. Not to put you down or anything, but uh, is your TV HD? I suspect that without HDMI, you might not be seeing Blu-Ray movies at their fullest resolution.
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i think blu ray is pretty overrated too.. blu ray discs seem to be upconverted dvds really.. just "superbit DVD" quality..
the audio isn't much better if that than dvds use dto be when they were being pushed on to ppl..
PQ is a significant step up from upconverted dvd.
In My personal opinion HD Audio is more noticeable than PQ on Blu-ray.
When i buy or rent a title on Blu i am generally more excited to hear Audio track than view the PQ. Unless of course its a title which doesn't contain a good sound mix, eg. some comedies.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:57 AM   #15
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blu-bren has NFI
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:03 AM   #16
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1. Trolling?
2. No HDMI cable?
3. Doesn't have a HDTV?
4. Complains about how bad a product is yet keeps purchasing it?

I don't get what your up to blu-bren
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:28 PM   #17
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i do have HDMi connect from my blu ray player to my HDTV 1080p TV

but not HDMI home theater
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:38 PM   #18
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more and more the companys are charging the same for dvds but u get less for your money.. the extras are not being included plus they are making dvd video and sound downgraded just to sell the blu rays better
I disagree. Standard DVDs released in the last few years look better than ever.
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more and more the companys are charging the same for dvds but u get less for your money.. the extras are not being included plus they are making dvd video and sound downgraded just to sell the blu rays better and to push ppl into buying blu rays before they are ready to..

i think blu ray is pretty overrated too.. blu ray discs seem to be upconverted dvds really.. just "superbit DVD" quality..
the audio isn't much better if that than dvds use dto be when they were being pushed on to ppl..

i 'd love to see a public backlash.. forcing companys/studios to offer better quality on both formats


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As far as bluray being overated, i think it depends on how you are viewing it.I have a projector and a full theatre setup as you can see in the home theatre photos section under "drummerboy", and i can tell you respectfully from experience that there is a huge difference from where i have been sitting. But i do tend to believe that they are asking big money for them and it is sometimes hard to justify the price we pay. I usually wait until they are on special(which takes a long while).
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:11 AM   #20
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no i dont have a big tv or hdmi HT system..
You just told us WHY you can't see the difference between DVD and Blu Ray. Blu ray is significantly sharper, clearer, more define, higher resolution and more detailed then any dvd audio and video wise, IF you have the right cable(HDMI), TV (recommended 1080p resolution), and for sound, a kick-ass HDMI output AVR, and of course the right movie. Example would be any Disney/Pixars film.

When you have those, and if your setup is right, let us know if what you think then.
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