Archived: Insiders Thread

[Neo65]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Is it any coincidence that Samsung and LG are cheap brands? While Sammy has got great TVs and phone going, their players, and LGs entire non-phone product line(and I think their phones) are pretty junky.

I'd say the problem is shortcuts taken in design, after all the LG player was super kludged, and the Samsung deck was rushed. I'm no electronics expert, but that's what I'm seeing based on prior patterns.

BRCM is doing all the engineering for the LG and Samsung brands, and perhaps they haven't spent as much time on it as they should. Don't know why though, it's not as if BRCM is used in the HD-A2.

Maybe MSFT is keeping BRCM busy with their WinCE HD DVD prototype.

[paidgeek]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

Just curious but will the PiP commentary track on the Blu-ray version of Resident Evil: Extinction be done using a secondary video stream?

Yes, it will be our first.

[The Shrike]

Originally Posted by paidgeek

Yes, it will be out first.

Awesome! I LOVE IT! I want PiP so bad. I love you paidgeek.

[whippersnapper]

Originally Posted by The Shrike

Awesome! I LOVE IT! I want PiP so bad. I love you paidgeek.

Now control yourself. We all love paidgeek, we just don't come out and say it.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by hyperdine

I'm glad Robert has chimed in on this, but for me, all it took was for Paidgeek and Penton Man to lay down the facts and that was good enough

Bob Harris's judgment and credibility is impeccable.

In regards to me, truth be told, the way to a man's heart is through his stomach, so if anyone from American Zoetrope is reading this, I would appreciate some free eats at the best Italian restaurant on Columbus Ave. for my truthful postings on this matter.

I am but a modest man whose ancestors most likely dined on Cioppino after a hard day’s work.

P.S.
Italian women in general predispose me to a life threatening cardiac arrhythmia which can only be controlled by the best bottle of wine in the house.

[scott1256ca]

Nobody seems much interested in BD+.

Apparently BD+ used on Day after Tomorrow is giving problems with the Samsung (not sure which model) and LG players. BD+ was in the spec from the beginning, was it not? So it should work on all players, and I assume LG and Samsung will issue firmware updates to correct it.

My question is, how come Fox didn't check compatibility before creating the final version of the disk, and if they did, how come Samsung and LG didn't issue firmware updates BEFORE the disks hit the market? Or is there new firmware available for these already?

BD has taken more than a few missteps along the way, and I don't see why this one couldn't have been avoided. Fox could have sent a sample disk to every BD manufacturer and asked them to check for compatibility. After all, there aren't THAT many players on the market. If Fox did do this, why wouldn't new firmware already be available?

As I said, perhaps new firmware has been issued already, and not everyone has it, which would make this much ado about nothing, but that doesn't seem to be what I have read so far. I may be able to find to this issue at AVS, but I refuse to go look in their HD disk sections any more.

By the way, welcome to Richard Paul. Hope you will post here frequently. I always enjoyed you taking on Amir, but I've given up on AVS.

[kjack]

Originally Posted by Hussla

Reports of BD+ problems according to some posters on avs. Apparently effects Samscum & LG players. Any insider comments?

As long as sigma-based players work OK, I'm happy...

[WickyWoo]

BD has taken more than a few missteps along the way, and I don't see why this one couldn't have been avoided. Fox could have sent a sample disk to every BD manufacturer and asked them to check for compatibility. After all, there aren't THAT many players on the market. If Fox did do this, why wouldn't new firmware already be available?

Panasonic runs a facility Fox likely used specifically to test cross-platform compatibility.

My guess would be that new firmware updates since then might have caused a problem since testing was done

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by kjack

As long as sigma-based players work OK, I'm happy...

While you're here I was wondering if you can comment on the 80GB PS3 or any new models, whether or not they might be firmware upgradeable to support bitstream TrueHD and DTS-MA?

I understand the 60GB cannot.

[frank_t]

Originally Posted by paidgeek

Yes, it will be out first.

Does that mean we need a profile 1.1 player then?

...and will the PS3 be profile 1.1? (man I hope so

[WickyWoo]

Does that mean we need a profile 1.1 player then?

...and will the PS3 be profile 1.1? (man I hope so

You need 1.1 to view it, PS3 almost certainly 1.1 capable

[FTX]

Originally Posted by GoldenRedux

Quote:
P.S.

Minor fix to this statement, and I can say wholeheartedly, that I agree.

Out of curiosity, which of the 7 real trappists works best ?

F

[Sir Terrence]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Bob Harris's judgment and credibility is impeccable.

In regards to me, truth be told, the way to a man's heart is through his stomach, so if anyone from American Zoetrope is reading this, I would appreciate some free eats at the best Italian restaurant on Columbus Ave. for my truthful postings on this matter.

I am but a modest man whose ancestors most likely dined on Cioppino after a hard day’s work.

P.S.
Italian women in general predispose me to a life threatening cardiac arrhythmia which can only be controlled by the best bottle of wine in the house.

If you think Italian women are heart threatening, you should request an audience with a Puerto Rican or Cuban woman. Every organ in the body is in danger after exposure to them.

[scragham]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

While you're here I was wondering if you can comment on the 80GB PS3 or any new models, whether or not they might be firmware upgradeable to support bitstream TrueHD and DTS-MA?

I understand the 60GB cannot.

hmm. where did you hear that, doby, re: the 60gb?

that would be very disappointing if true.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by ottscay

I'm an "insider" in the sense that I have several LG cell phones and can assure you that they've all been solid. Beyond that I've never owned an LG product, and don't plan to atm.

I own an LG combo DVD recorder/VHS recorder and I will never buy anything made by LG again.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by GoldenRedux

So, now all this 'Dracula BD is rubbish' nonsense can be put to rest. Thank you Penton and thanks paidgeek.

Great stuff - the Italian-American Bouillabaisse; yum.


Minor fix to this statement, and I can say wholeheartedly, that I agree.

Careful GoldenRedux ………….note FTX’s location, the B in Belgium stands for Beer.
A hearty, hearty welcome to new member Richard Paul whom I hadn’t noticed recently joined our little piece of Blu heaven (there’s a screenwriters thing going on in Hollywood now that everyone is preoccupied with).

Sir Terrance……….. in regards to the Italian women thing, I suspect the predisposition came from watching too much Sophia Loren in dem old movies when I was but a wee young lad.

In regards to P.R., been there (from San Juan to Ponce to Mayaguez), done that and I completely agree with your sentiments, the only difference is the medical complications to me are whole generalized, i.e. they give me fever.

[paidgeek]

Originally Posted by scott1256ca

Nobody seems much interested in BD+.

Apparently BD+ used on Day after Tomorrow is giving problems with the Samsung (not sure which model) and LG players. BD+ was in the spec from the beginning, was it not? So it should work on all players, and I assume LG and Samsung will issue firmware updates to correct it.

My question is, how come Fox didn't check compatibility before creating the final version of the disk, and if they did, how come Samsung and LG didn't issue firmware updates BEFORE the disks hit the market? Or is there new firmware available for these already?

BD has taken more than a few missteps along the way, and I don't see
why this one couldn't have been avoided. Fox could have sent a sample disk to every BD manufacturer and asked them to check for compatibility. After all, there aren't THAT many players on the market. If Fox did do this, why wouldn't new firmware already be available?

As I said, perhaps new firmware has been issued already, and not everyone has it, which would make this much ado about nothing, but that doesn't seem to be what I have read so far. I may be able to find to this issue at AVS, but I refuse to go look in their HD disk sections any more.

By the way, welcome to Richard Paul. Hope you will post here frequently. I always enjoyed you taking on Amir, but I've given up on AVS.

I have some recent information that the playability problems with TDAT and F4 are not related to BD+, but instead have to do with the Java support on the players in question. The firmware updates should resolve it.

[L or S of Perfect?]

Originally Posted by paidgeek

I have some recent information that the playability problems with TDAT and F4 are not related to BD+, but instead have to do with the Java support on the players in question. The firmware updates should resolve it.

Thank you for the update. Also nice to see the ps3 plays the movies back ok even without any special firmware update. Of course, it did playback POTC fine (while the other players took forever to load).

[paidgeek]

Originally Posted by frank_t

Does that mean we need a profile 1.1 player then?

...and will the PS3 be profile 1.1? (man I hope so

I am expecting a PS3 firmware update that will add support for this.

[scott1256ca]

Thank you paidgeek for the information. If the issues are not related to BD+, I think that is good news, since BD+ has been the source of much DRM revulsion.