81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

I believe that Transformers had an outside chance to knock Blu-Ray down into the 30s. I find it impossible to believe it'll push it down near 30 or into the low 30s.

Perhaps. There will be the following recent Blu-ray new releases by Transformer day:

Fantastic 4
28 Weeks Later
Reign Over Me
Surf's Up

And for HD DVD take back:

Evan Almighty

40/60 is probably where it will be. Which, no two ways about it, is a major turn around considering where things would be if Paramount hadn't defected.

Gary

[The Shrike]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

If you don't want to discuss it then don't... I have plenty of blu-ray comments on here too. However being passive aggressive is lame. It's a blu-ray forum... we get it.

Um, I was joking. Relax. I didn't realize you wanted to seriously discuss it in the middle of a nielsens thread.

[sj001]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Perhaps. There will be the following recent Blu-ray new releases by Transformer day:

Fantastic 4
28 Weeks Later
Reign Over Me
Surf's Up

And for HD DVD take back:

Evan Almighty

40/60 is probably where it will be. Which, no two ways about it, is a major turn around considering where things would be if Paramount hadn't defected.

Gary

Paramount just pisses me off!

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by w_tanoto

i saw somebody write here somewhere that fox titles does not affect this number. Is this fox titles actually count this week?

Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Sulfer will be part of next week's Nielsen numbers. There is going to be a lot of happy Blu-ray fans next week

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by w_tanoto

i saw somebody write here somewhere that fox titles does not affect this number. Is this fox titles actually count this week?

Fox's first new releases were this week. The numbers that we are seeing are for last week. We won't see the numbers with any of the Fox releases until next friday. I am sure if F4 was released the same day as Knocked Up, it would have killed Knocked Up.

[Alex Pallas]

how many pages today? quit going ape shit, this is one week and HDVD had a leading exclusive. transformers might push blu over the 50% for that week but it hardly says much. anyone with a head on their shoulders knows when Spidey3 hits, it only goes downhill for HD.

[mel2]

the critical and important 4th quarter started with this week so blu starts out with FF2 and the fox titles. I will say that blu starts it out will a blowout week 1 and 2.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Alex Pallas

how many pages today? quit going ape shit, this is one week and HDVD had a leading exclusive. transformers might push blu over the 50% for that week but it hardly says much. anyone with a head on their shoulders knows when Spidey3 hits, it only goes downhill for HD.

Yes, that's what should happen. Starting with Oct 30 it should be a stready progression toward more and more Blu-ray dominance throughout the rest of the year.

But, this does assume there won't be an HD DVD renaissance where Transformers drives major sales of new HD DVD players.

Gary

[Teazle]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

But, this does assume there won't be an HD DVD renaissance where Transformers drives major sales of new HD DVD players.

I just can't see that happening. Transformers was big, but only so big.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Teazle

I just can't see that happening. Transformers was big, but only so big.

Agreed. Also you could argue that the early release of Transformers could backfire in that respect. Coming out in a couple of weeks without blockbuster competition may earn HD-DVD a meaningless victory on a statistical chart followed by us geeks, but it could cost them sales of players that might have come had the release been closer to X-Mas.

By the holiday season Trans might be out of sight and out of mind, while the more current releases are fresh for consumers at the same time they are mulling console/player purchases. Is J6P going to buy a blu-ray player to play POTC 3, Spidey 3 or Simpsons that are sitting there at the giant display or buy the HD-DVD player so they can watch Transformers which came out 2 months earlier and is old news?

[NutsAboutPS3]

Originally Posted by BluOgre

What what happens with FF4 2.....you'll be surprised I think.

I've been thinking the same, that F4SS will sell very well, but today I dug out that Sony pdf from earlier this year, where they had all the exact sales figures for every disc, and I was surprised by how badly F4 sold on Blu-ray, especially compared to its box office takings, it really was a very poor sales performer indeed. F4SS is rated slightly better on imdb, 6.1 vs 5.8 for F4, but that's still a pretty poor score compared to Knocked Up with 7.9. I hope F4SS sells well, but I'm more worried now than I was before I looked at the F4 sales figures.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by NutsAboutPS3

I've been thinking the same, that F4SS will sell very well, but today I dug out that Sony pdf from earlier this year, where they had all the exact sales figures for every disc, and I was surprised by how badly F4 sold on Blu-ray, especially compared to its box office takings, it really was a very poor sales performer indeed. F4SS is rated slightly better on imdb, 6.1 vs 5.8 for F4, but that's still a pretty poor score compared to Knocked Up with 7.9. I hope F4SS sells well, but I'm more worried now than I was before I looked at the F4 sales figures.

I wouldn't use that as evidence. The original FF came out pretty early in the process for blu-ray before there were many adopters. Also I don't think it was day and day which seems to be huge. I mean I plan on getting FF2 and I never got the original. My guess is lots of people are in the same boat. If they were smart, they'd offer a box set of the 2 which basically gives away FF1 at a couple of bucks above cost but unloads inventory.

[davidPS3]

Originally Posted by Alex Pallas

how many pages today? quit going ape shit, this is one week and HDVD had a leading exclusive. transformers might push blu over the 50% for that week but it hardly says much. anyone with a head on their shoulders knows when Spidey3 hits, it only goes downhill for HD.

I agree with you!!

It seems like many people are going over the top. If HD-DVD wins a week, they win a week. I am hoping that everyone will look "down" the road a bit and see what we have coming our way.

When is the last time HD-DVD won a week? If they win a week with Transformers, then it is what it is. We should and I mean really we should win from here on out thru the end of the year.

[BillCable]

Originally Posted by BlueNeon

Fantastic Four Rise of The Silver Sulfer will be part of next week's Nielsen numbers. There is going to be a lot of happy Blu-ray fans next week

That's if people were able to find it. I stopped by two Walmarts and a Target and couldn't find a copy. The one Walmart had a huge island display with 4 different versions of the film, but not one copy on Blu-ray.

[Zotar]

Originally Posted by Blubaru

We shall see.

Until now Blu-ray hasn’t had any real competition. There are a lot of stupid people buying into HD-DVD now. I hope you’re right but I think all of those new buyers will probably help offset those numbers by a bit.

Blu-ray will win for sure but I don’t think it’s going to win by as much as you think it is.

Like I said before, I hope you’re right.

Blubaru,

What you've got to put in perspective is the fact that as each week passes, the gap between the number of Blu-ray players in peoples homes and HD-DVD players in peoples homes grows ever larger in Blu-Rays favour.

The fact that movies such as 300 sell almost double the numbers that they sell on HD-DVD tells the true story. Infact, because of the stats we see on movies released on both formats we can see that the greater the number of copies of "Knocked Up" that sell on HD-DVD, the more money that the Universal execs know they're losing as they can multiply those sales figures by 1.5 - 2.0 if they'd released the same title on Blu-ray.

[sj001]

Originally Posted by Zotar

Blubaru,

What you've got to put in perspective is the fact that as each week passes, the gap between the number of Blu-ray players in peoples homes and HD-DVD players in peoples homes grows ever larger in Blu-Rays favour.

The fact that movies such as 300 sell almost double the numbers that they sell on HD-DVD tells the true story. Infact, because of the stats we see on movies released on both formats we can see that the greater the number of copies of "Knocked Up" that sell on HD-DVD, the more money that the Universal execs know they're losing as they can multiply those sales figures by 1.5 - 2.0 if they'd released the same title on Blu-ray.

Exactly, and just wait to see the numbers next week, I think it will be the highest it has been in over a month, probably in the upper sixties.

[kamiller42]

Originally Posted by BluOgre

There has been nothing released by BR for the month of Sept that can compare to Blades Of Glory, Knocked Up, and Next. All of those were exclusive to HD.

HD DVD's strategy seems to spread their hits over the holiday and pre-holiday period. Blu-ray seems to be saving their hits for the holiday period. It's going to be a big boom.

Given the number of Blu studios, the selection of movies should always be greater than what HD DVD is offering. Related to selection size, I have noticed an annoying trend in retail. I've been to stores like Frys, Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. where they force the two formats to have equal space. The Blu side is packed with a selection, forcing many boxes to be binder side out and even some boxes stacked on others or below the shelving. The HD DVD is thinner and spread over the area resulting in their cover side out. If Blu is offering more titles, give it more space. Stop trying to squeeze everything in.

[blu-rayfan101]

I want transformers over a done with. Quick and painless, who is with me?

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by kamiller42

Given the number of Blu studios, the selection of movies should always be greater than what HD DVD is offering. Related to selection size, I have noticed an annoying trend in retail. I've been to stores like Frys, Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. where they force the two formats to have equal space. The Blu side is packed with a selection, forcing many boxes to be binder side out and even some boxes stacked on others or below the shelving. The HD DVD is thinner and spread over the area resulting in their cover side out. If Blu is offering more titles, give it more space. Stop trying to squeeze everything in.

Agree with your point, but I have not seen that anywhere near me. My BB has been expanding the BD section over the past year and is now a full 2 to HD-DVD's 1 shelf.

[Swede]

Well, if you look at the dual format titles on the top sellers this week, it's clear that Blu-ray is still outselling HD DVD comfortably:

300 - 25:14 Blu-ray, or 1.79:1
Troy: Director's cut - 17:6 Blu-ray, or 2.8:1
We are Marshall - 12:6 Blu-ray, or 2:1

Pretty much says it all. Just because HD DVD had a big blockbuster hit this week, doesn't mean they're closing in when looking at the big picture.