Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[DaViD Boulet]

I really, REALLY want the EE versions to each be on a single disc. I loathe having to interrupt the movie flow with a disc-change mid-film. Folks who require bathroom breaks can take them whenever they wish by pressing pause, but I hate it when the format-break *forces* a pause whether or not it's the best spot or whether or not you wanted it.

That being said, if lowering the average bit rate causes the video to soften as it has with some other WB discs, then I'd rather prioritize PQ and spread over two discs.

I'm hoping that with the VC1 compression experience over the past couple of years that the compressionists will be able to keep the video quality looking the same while tweaking the compression to lower the average bit-rate to get it to fit on a single disc. Hopefully when it comes out it won't look soft/filtered if they go the single disc route.

My preference (in order):

1. a PRISTINE picture on a single disc.

but if that's not possible, rather than a softer image or one with visible artifacts...

2. a pristine picture over 2 discs.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Picture quality is more important to me than having a movie on one disc. That's why the EE's looked so good on DVD.. they had 17 GB for the movie instead of 8.5GB.

Additionally, it's nice to have a break in the middle of a long movie.

Even Blu-ray has its limits to how much you can cram on a disk. 200 minutes is 3 hrs 20 minutes, so it looks like Fellowship and probably Two Towers EE's could fit... but having ROTK at 4hrs30min (270 min) is pushing it.

If they can get it on one disk, that's great- I just hope they don't sacrifice quality in order to do so.

Give me the best PQ and AQ, or give me nothing.

[HermanTurnip]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

In the [book] they make a camp where they are attacked by wolves. Gandalf gets to demonstrate perhaps his most potent pyrotechnics that he displays anywhere in the book. This is one section that I wish they had included at least in the extended edition.

I'm disappointed that there was no coverage of Tom Bombadil in the movies

[Louisville Slugger]

So if we get:

[Video] 200 minutes = 12,000 seconds * 31.29 Mbps = 375,480 Megabits = 45.83 GB.

[Audio] 200 minutes = 12,000 seconds * 4.55 Mbps = 54,600 Megabits = 6.67 GB.

DTS-HD Master Audio English 4658 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4658 kbps / 24-bit.

Not to mention language tracks and extra features. I'd put all extra features on separate discs and devote the entire 50 GB Blu-ray disc for the movie and some additional language tracks.

Please note these bitrates are arbitrary and are not actual.

Damn, the extended edition set is going to be crazy. We're probably looking at a 6 to 9 disc set,

[wiza_gab]

I won't be buying this on day one, that's for sure. (have to wait for reviews and discs information)

[TylerDurden]

Originally Posted by wiza_gab

I won't be buying this on day one, that's for sure. (have to wait for reviews and discs information)

+1 or a black Friday deal.

[maverik1979]

Originally Posted by Louisville Slugger

So if we get:

[Video] 200 minutes = 12,000 seconds * 31.29 Mbps = 375,480 Megabits = 45.83 GB.

[Audio] 200 minutes = 12,000 seconds * 4.55 Mbps = 54,600 Megabits = 6.67 GB.

DTS-HD Master Audio English 4658 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4658 kbps / 24-bit.

Not to mention language tracks and extra features. I'd put all extra features on separate discs and devote the entire 50 GB Blu-ray disc for the movie and some additional language tracks.

Please note these bitrates are arbitrary and are not actual.

Damn, the extended edition set is going to be crazy. We're probably looking at a 6 to 9 disc set,

yeah that pretty much ties in with what i worked out, even if they lower the video bitrate down to 20mbps (dont think ive sen anything lower for a movie) and use 16bit true hd 3-3.5mbps
youre still looking at around 47.6gb and thats not including other languages (1.3gb per lossy d-digital language track) subs etc

personally id rather see two discs and better quality, sure its a pain getting up to change but better that than sitting through the whole thing wondering what it could have been like

[Mahatma]

Originally Posted by maverik1979

can anyone confirm if im geting my sums right?

Think what you might have confused is bytes from bits.1 byte is 8 bits.when it says 28mbs transferrate it means megaBITS per sec,and BD is 50 gigaBYTES (two-layer).

Hope it helps

[maverik1979]

Originally Posted by Mahatma

Think what you might have confused is bytes from bits.1 byte is 8 bits.when it says 28mbs transferrate it means megaBITS per sec,and BD is 50 gigaBYTES (two-layer).

Hope it helps

thanks for the confirmation, thats why i multiplied the mbits/sec rate by 0.125 to get it into mbytes/sec

[mredman]

Originally Posted by maverik1979

yeah that pretty much ties in with what i worked out, even if they lower the video bitrate down to 20mbps (dont think ive sen anything lower for a movie) and use 16bit true hd 3-3.5mbps
youre still looking at around 47.6gb and thats not including other languages (1.3gb per lossy d-digital language track) subs etc

personally id rather see two discs and better quality, sure its a pain getting up to change but better that than sitting through the whole thing wondering what it could have been like

then how come King Kong a 200 min movie + PiP track can fit on 1 disc. And the quality for PQ and AQ is reference material. If this movie can fit on disc with such amazing results the LOTR EE can as well

[SleeperAgent]

Originally Posted by mredman

then how come King Kong a 200 min movie + PiP track can fit on 1 disc. And the quality for PQ and AQ is reference material. If this movie can fit on disc with such amazing results the LOTR EE can as well

+1

Troy is also about 200 minutes (196) and looks/sounds spectacular.

[maverik1979]

Originally Posted by TheSoviet

+1

Troy is also about 200 minutes (196) and looks/sounds spectacular.

true but ROTK is 270 mins

hey if they can get it on a single disc without compromising picture quality then thats great, i certainly wouldnt complain, but having noticed a few "visual anomolies" on some of the earlier 25gb discs due to compression, i wouldnt want that to happen to my most anticipated blu-ray

[vegeta88]

Originally Posted by wiza_gab

I won't be buying this on day one, that's for sure. (have to wait for reviews and discs information)

Originally Posted by TylerDurden

+1 or a black Friday deal.

Considering how expensive it will be, you bet I will wait for a review. Hopefully the review gets out way earlier than the film. I should start saving now .

[mredman]

Originally Posted by maverik1979

true but ROTK is 270 mins

hey if they can get it on a single disc without compromising picture quality then thats great, i certainly wouldnt complain, but having noticed a few "visual anomolies" on some of the earlier 25gb discs due to compression, i wouldnt want that to happen to my most anticipated blu-ray

well they most likely will put them on BD50GB disc. Most blurays are 50 gb now and this will no doubt also

And actually the EE of ROTK is 250 min not 270 min

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by vegeta88

Considering how expensive it will be, you bet I will wait for a review. Hopefully the review gets out way earlier than the film. I should start saving now .

$60 would be nice....

They are still sitting at $69.99 pre-order for Amazon

[DaViD Boulet]

I want 24-bit 48 kHz lossless (audio). No 16-bit downconversion...

[blu-mike]

Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet

I want 24-bit 48 kHz lossless (audio). No 16-bit downconversion...

and lets hope they dont DNR it to death

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by HermanTurnip

I'm disappointed that there was no coverage of Tom Bombadil in the movies

One of my favorite chapters!

[deado]

Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet

I want 24-bit 48 kHz lossless (audio). No 16-bit downconversion...

Well someone said that it was specifically remixed for Blu-ray release, and Blu-ray.com has DTS-HD MA 7.1 as the audio specs, so I'd say it's quite likely we'll get 24-bit.

[maverik1979]

Originally Posted by mredman

well they most likely will put them on BD50GB disc. Most blurays are 50 gb now and this will no doubt also

And actually the EE of ROTK is 250 min not 270 min

thanks, i was just going of what someone else said the running time would be, wasnt 100% sure,

and obviously it will be on a 50gb disc, but my point was ROTK EE is twice as long as an average film, and on the earlier release blurays (on 25gb) there were some issues with the compression, so whilst yes its now got twice the capacity of earlier discs, it is also twice as long.