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Old 12-10-2009, 02:53 AM   #8301
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Don't forget that the big successes have to pay for the bombs, and that Hasbro and Dreamworks get large percentages of the income from Bayformers 2

Add another one to the list- Rocky Blu box, smashed just like my ST:TOS was. The 7 disc cases, the few of them I've seen intact seem ready to fall apart anyway.

The problem is that they're trying to use less plastic, while at the same time hanging the weight of 6 discs off of the spine plus the torque of them shifting around.. I far prefer the cases Disney uses for Lost, they're strong
 
Old 12-10-2009, 03:42 AM   #8302
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Don't forget that the big successes have to pay for the bombs, and that Hasbro and Dreamworks get large percentages of the income from Bayformers 2
Jeff, add to the fact that the movie cost a ton to make and the marketing budget was freaking massive!

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Add another one to the list- Rocky Blu box, smashed just like my ST:TOS was. The 7 disc cases, the few of them I've seen intact seem ready to fall apart anyway.

The problem is that they're trying to use less plastic, while at the same time hanging the weight of 6 discs off of the spine plus the torque of them shifting around.. I far prefer the cases Disney uses for Lost, they're strong
The "LOST" cases are awesome, but I bet The Dharma Initiative had something to do with that
 
Old 12-10-2009, 03:45 AM   #8303
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I dunno, most of their stuff looks like it came out of the "no frills" generic store brand supermarket aisle Plus their orientation kit comes in corrogated cardboard
 
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Lost seasons 1 and 2 come in the horrible 7-disc Elite cases used by Star Trek: TOS. But yes, Seasons 3, 4, and 5 come in great cases.
 
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OK, well mine didn't They must've run out of the "good" ones.
 
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OK, well mine didn't They must've run out of the "good" ones.
Did you get review ones from Disney? I got mine on release date and they were Elite, as were those of everyone on the forums complaining about them - there were no dissenting voices talking about other cases.

Hell, I didn't even think they made 7-disc versions of the "good cases." I've only seen 6-disc ones, and figured that was why they went with Elite for the 7-disc seasons 1 and 2.
 
Old 12-10-2009, 04:58 AM   #8307
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You know what, I just checked and mine are the same too. I forgot they were 7 discs

The Elite cases are the only 7 disc ones out there unfortunately, you're right
 
Old 12-10-2009, 01:40 PM   #8308
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Don't forget that the big successes have to pay for the bombs, and that Hasbro and Dreamworks get large percentages of the income from Bayformers 2

Add another one to the list- Rocky Blu box, smashed just like my ST:TOS was. The 7 disc cases, the few of them I've seen intact seem ready to fall apart anyway.

The problem is that they're trying to use less plastic, while at the same time hanging the weight of 6 discs off of the spine plus the torque of them shifting around.. I far prefer the cases Disney uses for Lost, they're strong
GI Joe was likely considered a financial bomb and that obviously didnt help. I do get the feeling that GI Joe will get new life on bluray and dvd though.

I didnt think it was too bad for what it was.
 
Old 12-10-2009, 02:06 PM   #8309
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Lost seasons 1 and 2 come in the horrible 7-disc Elite cases used by Star Trek: TOS. But yes, Seasons 3, 4, and 5 come in great cases.
Yet another reason for me to wait for the uber-dharma initiative complete series blu-ray boxed set.
 
Old 12-10-2009, 02:06 PM   #8310
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GIJoe probably made money theatrically. It did about $350m worldwide, and it was positioned for late summer, and the ad blitz wasn't extreme.
 
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GIJoe probably made money theatrically. It did about $350m worldwide, and it was positioned for late summer, and the ad blitz wasn't extreme.
Then what films did they bomb on? Star Trek was a success. In fact thus far it seems like Paramount will be the runaway winner for biggest blockbusters.

Its Fox that seems to be in dire need of a big hit and Im sure they're hoping Avatar will provide that.

I do have my doubts though that Avatar will be profitable given that the budget has now escalated to around $300 million.

But then again, people expressed the same doubts before Titanic came out.
 
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Its Fox that seems to be in dire need of a big hit and Im sure they're hoping Avatar will provide that.

I do have my doubts though that Avatar will be profitable given that the budget has now escalated to around $300 million.
I don't know how true this is, but I read somewhere that Fox chose to make a sequel to Alvin and the Chipmunks partly to offset the gamble on Avatar. Relatively inexpensive family film, sequel to a profitable movie, etc.
 
Old 12-10-2009, 06:43 PM   #8313
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I don't know how true this is, but I read somewhere that Fox chose to make a sequel to Alvin and the Chipmunks partly to offset the gamble on Avatar. Relatively inexpensive family film, sequel to a profitable movie, etc.
If a Chipmunks sequel would be a sure enough thing that it would offset an investment, why wouldn't they make it anyway, regardless of said investment?
 
Old 12-10-2009, 06:52 PM   #8314
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If a Chipmunks sequel would be a sure enough thing that it would offset an investment, why wouldn't they make it anyway, regardless of said investment?
It's squeakquel. LOL...get with it man.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1231580/
 
Old 12-10-2009, 06:56 PM   #8315
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Hey, I'm excited to hear about the Kino - Lorber merger (and I'm assuming this means an acquisition of Lorber by Kino, yes?). Anybody have any good details about it (or even some semi-educated speculation)?
 
Old 12-10-2009, 07:44 PM   #8316
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Paramount is also paying off previous bombs.

Everything I've heard is that Fox looks at Avatar as much as a movie as an R&D investment in the next decade of putting butts in theater seats

And yes, Alvin is a total cashin that will hit profit very quickly
 
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And yes, Alvin is a total cashin that will hit profit very quickly
See, I would've said the same thing about the first one, too.
 
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Paramount is also paying off previous bombs.

Everything I've heard is that Fox looks at Avatar as much as a movie as an R&D investment in the next decade of putting butts in theater seats

And yes, Alvin is a total cashin that will hit profit very quickly
I wish it were a final 4 pod of Earl episodes instead.
 
Old 12-10-2009, 08:18 PM   #8319
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Honestly, most kids movies today are simply cookie-cutter cashins. Back in the 80s they at least tried. There was stuff like Goonies, or Daryl, or Explorers (OK, not the last act) that tried to be a real movie that while pointed at children could still be enjoyed. Now it's just cookie-cutter fart jokes.

Pixar (with DreamWorks starting to get it) are the only ones who seem to know that they're making movies for the over-6 set.

Where The Wild Things Are tried really hard be that, but it shot too far above the kids. Everyone I know who is not currently a kid loved it though

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I wish it were a final 4 pod of Earl episodes instead.
I wish they'd just stuck a little video clip that told what was going to happen on the end, like all shows that end with cliffhangers should be required to do if they're not renewed at the time of taping
 
Old 12-10-2009, 10:41 PM   #8320
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I wish they'd just stuck a little video clip that told what was going to happen on the end, like all shows that end with cliffhangers should be required to do if they're not renewed at the time of taping
Boy, Jeff... between this and 2001, remind me not to get you any ambiguity for Christmas.
 
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