NPD sales numbers for November 2009

[saprano]

Holy f$#% what a surprise to see 360 beat PS3 this month? what the hell happened????

And the difference between MW2 on both consoles is staggering!!!!

Sony really must be scratching the heads right now.

Heres to december.

(really f'n wow)

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by saprano

Holy f$#% what a surprise to see 360 beat PS3 this month? what the hell happened????

And the difference between MW2 on both consoles is staggering!!!!

Sony really must be scratching the heads right now.

Heres to december.

(really f'n wow)

This time, Sony really needs to get in their game.

[Morphine]

Why is every1 amazed by the numbers? You basically could get the xbox for $100 last month, plus limited edition MW2 console with one side advertisement of the 360 MW2 game. You do the numbers

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Morphine

Why is every1 amazed by the numbers? You basically could get the xbox for $100 last month, plus limited edition MW2 console with one side advertisement of the 360 MW2 game. You do the numbers

Why is everyone amazed by the numbers!!!!!??? your joking right? no really? wow.

Let me help you out.

Sony redesigned their console, dropped the price to $299, and advertised like crazysince september. everyone expected the PS3 to be on top.

I really hope PS3 wins december.

[alanshearer]

Originally Posted by saprano

Why is everyone amazed by the numbers!!!!!??? your joking right? no really? wow.

Let me help you out.

Sony redesigned their console, dropped the price to $299, and advertised like crazysince september. everyone expected the PS3 to be on top.

I really hope PS3 wins december.

Walmart, Amazon had a $100 dollar rebate on the xbox arcade. I watched Amazon and it shot straight to number 1. Not surprising. What is surprising is still after all these years we still have no Gran Turismo 5. Sony gave the holidays to Microsoft in the US by delaying Gran Turismo 5. Just so predictable.

[Clark Kent]

A public relations win for the Xbox, which is all that Microsoft cares about. Microsoft saw the tide turning against their system, now that the PS3 is reasonably priced, and reacted. I expect the PS3 to outsell them going forward, but Microsoft cares about the key holiday season numbers for marketing purposes. They know the gaming audience still distrusts them to some extent, and ready to drop them without a second thought.

[alanshearer]

After Sony inexplicably delayed Gran Turismo 5 it's what i expected. Sony seem to always react to competition rather than be the movers and shakers nowadays. We're in the the 4th year of the PS3 with no sign of GT5.

A massive publicity coup for MS. Stopped the PS3 bandwagon dead in it's tracks, unfortunately but predictably. But i'm sure after all these years Gran Turismo will release but with viciously crital reviewers expecting perfection. Rather than releasing when it should of maybe slightly less than stellar but would of sold gangbusters because of it's brand a bit like Halo.

[caliblue15]

nothing surprising to me.

[saprano]

How is it not cali?

I understand the 360 had the $100 WM deal and MW2 bundle but still.

[alanshearer]

Originally Posted by saprano

How is it not cali?

I understand the 360 had the $100 WM deal and MW2 bundle but still.

Walmart and Amazon. You're talking lots of consoles. MS said they'd make sure they'd stop the PS3 bandwagon and they did. Sony bent over by delaying Gran Turismo 5.

[caliblue15]

Originally Posted by saprano

How is it not cali?

I understand the 360 had the $100 WM deal and MW2 bundle but still.

MW2 was exclusively marketed as pretty much a 360 exclusive. People would come in to buy the Xbox 360, thinking it could play mw2, then told them otherwise, which one you think they picked when they knew the truth.

Xbox 360 has the money and advertising on the hottest games with the xbox 360 logo at the end. Its pure marketing genius.

Sony is marketing the console, not the games. Hard to enjoy a console without games.

Edit: I wonder how many of those 360 sales came from pirates whose consoles got banned.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by caliblue15

MW2 was exclusively marketed as pretty much a 360 exclusive. People would come in to buy the Xbox 360, thinking it could play mw2, then told them otherwise, which one you think they picked when they knew the truth.

Xbox 360 has the money and advertising on the hottest games with the xbox 360 logo at the end. Its pure marketing genius.

Sony is marketing the console, not the games. Hard to enjoy a console without games.

Edit: I wonder how many of those 360 sales came from pirates whose consoles got banned.

I dont get your first line? people thought 360 could play MW2?

Anyway you make some good points but with all that advertising and a cheap price you would of thought it would've sold more.....no no not more cause 700k is really good compared to last year, but i thought for sure PS3 would outsell 360.

Yes, im sure those bannings helped to.

[Elandyll]

I guess what I saw at Costco was the reality then.

They had "deals". The one on 360 had the elite and crappy games at $299.

The PS3 had a game and a remote for $329.

The Wii was at $199 with a game I think.

Both the Wii and the 360 were largely going out faster than the PS3's there.

It's always about the perceived price. Sony should -not- have thought that the 250Gb bundles would win it, and rather tried to tackle super deals under the $299 bar.
That is -if- they wanted to lose more money per console just to make bigger sale numbers, of course.
Afraid to say that the HDTV + PS3 deals or the well priced 250Gb bundles were not that attractive -for mass sales-.

Really a shame when you have a $299 Slim that's awesome and a marketing ad campaign that's been the best in ages.

This being said the situation is leagues better than at the end of 08.

[alanshearer]

Originally Posted by saprano

How is it not cali?

I understand the 360 had the $100 WM deal and MW2 bundle but still.

The xbox had the stronger game and marketing lineup in terms of potential sales. COD4MW2, Halo, Forza 3. $100 rebate at Walmart and Amazon. Sony were almost entirely relying on Uncharted, Assasins Creed 2 marketing and the Bluray effect to sell consoles. Bluray isnt yet the big differentiator. The big price worthiness isnt mainstream. I dont think anyone should be surprised that the Xbox outsold the PS3. I think it's common sense with all available evidence.

[Elandyll]

Forza 3 for 360 and Assassin's Creed 2 positioning for the PS3 will have been for naught on either console.
AC2 sold 2x on 360, in line with the installed base, and the big exclusive of MS on 360 in November doesn't even scratch the top 10 of sales.

I bet that Sony regrets not pushing harder to have GT5 out now ... It could have made all the difference.
This being said, and given the circumstances (MW2, $99 Arcade, no big exclusive), the PS3 still did very well imo.

[pBLU-RAYs3]

Low price will always triumph and that hurt the ps3 from the start. The average gamer may be in their thirties, but millions of gamers from grade school kids to teens add up. They buy whatever their friends have at the moment, plus they get about fives games in a year.

Sony is spending resources on three gaming consoles currently, it makes you wonder how things might have been different if Sony just supported ps3 and at a $399/$499 price at launch. Can't turn back the clock.