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Old 10-10-2007, 09:05 AM   #61
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No, if you look at my pic, you will see that it's the movie 300 on HD DVD it was released after blockbuster said they are going blu-ray only.... My blockbuster is still getting new hd dvd movies in.
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:10 AM   #62
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You have the Paramounts sales figures? Maybe Paramounts sales are 1:1
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:05 AM   #63
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Blockbuster has been anti consumer since the beginning, which is the reason I have not stepped foot in one for years. BB will only do what is best for BB. Look how long it took them to start renting DVDs. If you want to help BR, just rent from Netflix. Rentals count the same no matter where you rent from.

Everyone is upset about Paramount being anti-consumer because they went from supporting both to only HD DVD - doesn't that same logic work against BB.
I don't know who you are and I'm sorry for your bad experience, but if you want Blu Ray to succeed rent from Blockbuster, they are only supporting Blu Ray on a store level. I know because i'm one of their managers.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:03 AM   #64
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i did not see any blu-ray titles at my blockbuster
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:07 PM   #65
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They are also reporting more DVD rentals than the HD formats combined - would it be okay to drop both?
Isn't that like saying (7 years ago) why support DVD when VHS has much more in sales.

I thought it was common sense. Rentailers are different than retailers. It's much easier to support both as a retailer because you can return ANYTHING and get credit from the stuidos. Rental product, you just invested and are stuck. If you can't turn a profit from it you are SOL. The fact these highdef formats are much more expensive than their DVD counterparts....it makes no sense to support both when one format is obivously much more popular.

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Old 10-10-2007, 12:17 PM   #66
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Blockbuster has been anti consumer since the beginning, which is the reason I have not stepped foot in one for years. BB will only do what is best for BB. Look how long it took them to start renting DVDs. If you want to help BR, just rent from Netflix. Rentals count the same no matter where you rent from.

Everyone is upset about Paramount being anti-consumer because they went from supporting both to only HD DVD - doesn't that same logic work against BB.
Did they make you pay late fees or something? Saying they are anti consumer.....if anything Corporate Blockbuster cares about customers too much. They removed Late Fees (the single biggest flop of a business decision I've ever seen.....to give you an idea that was about 20% of their revenue that just went poof) and even offer insane rental cards where they actually LOSE money on the deal (assuming you take advantage).

Blockbuster actually pays their customers to do surprise visits and grade that store. They take customer service serious. I really don't understand how you can say they are anti consumer. This is so funny, you think Netflix and Blockbuster are any different? They are about making money.....who would have thought.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:15 PM   #67
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We have two stores in my area that rent blu-disk, non of them are hd-dvd or have any plans to do so. As far as selection it is lame at best, they only keep 1 copy per title so all the good ones are out pretty much 99.9% of the time since rentals last a week, and most titles are very old and they have no working plan as to when new releases will come in to the store. Like i said in other post i dont understand this half assed attempt at stocking blu disk's, either #### or get off the pot blockbuster.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:51 PM   #68
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We have two stores in my area that rent blu-disk, non of them are hd-dvd or have any plans to do so. As far as selection it is lame at best, they only keep 1 copy per title so all the good ones are out pretty much 99.9% of the time since rentals last a week, and most titles are very old and they have no working plan as to when new releases will come in to the store. Like i said in other post i dont understand this half assed attempt at stocking blu disk's, either #### or get off the pot blockbuster.
It's easy to say "just buy more" however the demand is just not there yet. I help run some of the biggest blockbuster stores in the country and when you are dealing with budgets.....the revenue from highdef is less than 1% in those stores. This is putting 3 copies per title on new releases.

I know customers love to say, hey just buy it because I'll rent it. That's great however I've noticed most stores have only a handful of people that rent Blu-Ray movies (I help run over 60 Blockbuster stores). When you are dealing with thousands of stores (as Corporate does) bringing in multiple copies for something that doesn't rent well is a waist of money. Now if they were to make rev share deals with stuidos, you will see more copies. Right now however, it's strickly paying full price for something that you are likely not going to even break even (at least for a month or two).

Basically financially it doesn't make sense to invest more than what they are doing right now. Wait until after the 4th qtr.....if it's as big as it's supposed to be things will change next year.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:55 PM   #69
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Did they make you pay late fees or something? Saying they are anti consumer.....if anything Corporate Blockbuster cares about customers too much. They removed Late Fees (the single biggest flop of a business decision I've ever seen.....to give you an idea that was about 20% of their revenue that just went poof) and even offer insane rental cards where they actually LOSE money on the deal (assuming you take advantage).

Blockbuster actually pays their customers to do surprise visits and grade that store. They take customer service serious. I really don't understand how you can say they are anti consumer. This is so funny, you think Netflix and Blockbuster are any different? They are about making money.....who would have thought.
BB has changed a lot over the last few years, but that is only because of companies like Netflix. They didn't do away with late fees because they wanted to help the customers, they did it because they were losing a lot of business and because of the class action lawsuits. Are their promotions are a desperate attempt to get some of their past customers back.

When BB came about, they seemed to purchase or buy out every movie rental place in town so they could be the only one. How many people here have seen two BBs across the street from each other? They bought out the competition, which is always bad for the consumer. They were very slow in adopting DVD since they didn't make as much money on it as VHS. Then they tried to get the rental window established for DVD, but luckly the studios told them to stick it. Then the lack of selection, large late fees, the high prices on their new DVDs, etc.

While Netflix is far from perfect, they do provide a good service at a good price.
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:29 PM   #70
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I've been renting two new Blu-Rays every two days and it's awesome. I'm off for the next four daysm so I might double that.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:46 PM   #71
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As a Blockbuster shareholder, I'd invite you all to rent there as often as possible and spread the good word.

I don't rent movies, but if I did, it would be at Blockbuster.
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Old 10-10-2007, 05:08 PM   #72
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It's easy to say "just buy more" however the demand is just not there yet. I help run some of the biggest blockbuster stores in the country and when you are dealing with budgets.....the revenue from highdef is less than 1% in those stores. This is putting 3 copies per title on new releases.

I know customers love to say, hey just buy it because I'll rent it. That's great however I've noticed most stores have only a handful of people that rent Blu-Ray movies (I help run over 60 Blockbuster stores). When you are dealing with thousands of stores (as Corporate does) bringing in multiple copies for something that doesn't rent well is a waist of money. Now if they were to make rev share deals with stuidos, you will see more copies. Right now however, it's strickly paying full price for something that you are likely not going to even break even (at least for a month or two).

Basically financially it doesn't make sense to invest more than what they are doing right now. Wait until after the 4th qtr.....if it's as big as it's supposed to be things will change next year.

Well then it's going to force me into looking at services such as netflix which seem to have a catalog of over 40 titles. I would rather use a store and hold it in my hand first but really in the last month they got one new copy of fantastic 4 and that's it, and of course it is out all the time. Right now saying blockbuster supports blu-disk is wrong, it's more like testing blu-disk.
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Old 10-10-2007, 05:21 PM   #73
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I can't rent at BB. I was always wondering why I had late charges on my account so I started to make sure that every single movie was returned on time....but guess what? If I didn't rent anything for a while then sure enough, there was a late charge on my account. I happened to mention this to a friend of mine and he had been having the same problem. Only he was doing something about it. He was bringing the movies back to the store and demanding a receipt of the ontime return. He caught them several times but even with the receipt in hand he would have to get the manager involved to correct it because the employees wouldn't do it. This is down right crooked. Something isn't right over there and they need some kind of oversight or auditing to make sure this doesn't happen. It's so rampent that it seems like it's built into their system. They're going to get your money one way or another. And on top of all that...."no late charges"....complete BS! I still know some people who rent there and when I ask them for details about late charges they say "yeah, under these circumstances blah blah blah, you can still get late charges. Sorry, no, I'll just use netflix or buy my own. Usually the rental price plus a late charge at BB just about equal the cost of a movie anyway.
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:16 PM   #74
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I can't rent at BB. I was always wondering why I had late charges on my account so I started to make sure that every single movie was returned on time....but guess what? If I didn't rent anything for a while then sure enough, there was a late charge on my account. I happened to mention this to a friend of mine and he had been having the same problem. Only he was doing something about it. He was bringing the movies back to the store and demanding a receipt of the ontime return. He caught them several times but even with the receipt in hand he would have to get the manager involved to correct it because the employees wouldn't do it. This is down right crooked. Something isn't right over there and they need some kind of oversight or auditing to make sure this doesn't happen. It's so rampent that it seems like it's built into their system. They're going to get your money one way or another. And on top of all that...."no late charges"....complete BS! I still know some people who rent there and when I ask them for details about late charges they say "yeah, under these circumstances blah blah blah, you can still get late charges. Sorry, no, I'll just use netflix or buy my own. Usually the rental price plus a late charge at BB just about equal the cost of a movie anyway.

Yup pretty much i think they charge full price of a 7 day rental everyday it's late which is why it runs up so quick, so if it is 3 days late that will be about a 15 dollar charge even though it's only 5 bucks to rent it for a week. Another way they get you is by making it a 12:00 noon rental return knowing full damn well most people are at work and wont be able to get there past 5pm making it late.

I think i just pretty much talked myself into signing up for netflix tonight when i get home, hell waiting for them in the mail will still take less time then having to wait for the one copy they carry to return to the store.
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Stores in San Diego area have excellent selection of blu-ray movies for rent. I've been enjoying the online/in-store exchange program for a few months now. It's great. When I'm late with the movies, it is only $1.25 restocking fee. So, no problem here. I'm quite happy with Blockbuster!
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:50 PM   #76
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wow i recently rented 2 from blockbuster and felt bad thinking: wow this isnt even supporting blu

guess i was wrong
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:04 PM   #77
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I've started renting from BB recently, BD only, and I was very surprised to find the no late fees thing I knew about but the BB I rented from the BD rental fee is the same for BD as it is for DVD, remember back when DVD's were just starting to get into the rental places? it'd be like another buck or 2 to rent the DVD... BB has me as a supporter
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wow i recently rented 2 from blockbuster and felt bad thinking: wow this isnt even supporting blu

guess i was wrong

Renting helps solidify Blockbusters position on Blu-ray. Renting is important. Hollywood Video is going out of business. All that traffic will be absorbed into Blockbuster and Netflix.

Try Netflix to if you want.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:18 AM   #79
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I've started renting from BB recently, BD only, and I was very surprised to find the no late fees thing I knew about but the BB I rented from the BD rental fee is the same for BD as it is for DVD, remember back when DVD's were just starting to get into the rental places? it'd be like another buck or 2 to rent the DVD... BB has me as a supporter
I love being able to rent Blu-rays. I buy and rent.

Renting supports Blu-ray and BlockBuster. Blockbuster went to bat for Blu-ray, we need to continue our support.


Now the CE's need to start bringing out all those new players!!!!
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:40 PM   #80
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My blockbuster just stopped renting blu-rays they said that blu-ray wasn't renting. I guess I was the only one renting blu-ray.
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