What is stopping a 3rd party from making a BD drive for X-box360? - Blu-ray Forum

tron3 · 10-12-2007, 12:59 PM

What is stopping a 3rd party from making a BD drive for X-box360? If I were to answer my own question, I would say MS would never allow the licensing because of HD-DVD - period.

But think about it, Xbox 360 sells rather well, and does have a nice assortment of games. PS3 owners here love it for the BD playing abilities, but I do see complaints that it lacks in games.

I can only see a BD adaptor for the xbox 360 increasing the sales. I'm not trying to hurt Sony's PS3 sales, but anything which causes more people to buy BD movies is a good thing in the long run.

Thoughts?

Xerious · 10-12-2007, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tron3

What is stopping a 3rd party from making a BD drive for X-box360? If I were to answer my own question, I would say MS would never allow the licensing because of HD-DVD - period.

But think about it, Xbox 360 sells rather well, and does have a nice assortment of games. PS3 owners here love it for the BD playing abilities, but I do see complaints that it lacks in games.

I can only see a BD adaptor for the xbox 360 increasing the sales. I'm not trying to hurt Sony's PS3 sales, but anything which causes more people to buy BD movies is a good thing in the long run.

Thoughts?

It's called LICENCING AGREEMENTS... the moment you plug a third party device, you void your warrenty

scook · 10-12-2007, 01:19 PM

I think that this would be an amazing idea and hope that MS wises up and creates this. We all know that MS is all about the $$$$$$$ so why would'nt they implement the best technology into their system. Great idea though

-Cook

Xerious · 10-12-2007, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook

I think that this would be an amazing idea and hope that MS wises up and creates this. We all know that MS is all about the $$$$$$$ so why would'nt they implement the best technology into their system.

-Cook

because they are arrogant... rather than embrace, they try to one-up... only to (most of the time) fail miserably

w_tanoto · 10-12-2007, 02:03 PM

i hope this won't happen. BD is one factor that boost ps3 sales

Branden · 10-12-2007, 02:05 PM

even if you plug in an external BD drive and get it working, M$ will still never put BD-J or BD+ compatability on the 360.

Blu Blur · 10-12-2007, 02:19 PM

Tron while I understand your position and agree with you, I don't think now is the time. Personally the 360 should be banshied to the lowest pits of hell for all the trouble it is causing it's users but putting my expierences aside I think in the long run this would be a good idea. The simple point is that HD-DVD needs to fail first then give those who bought and HD-DVD player the option of buying a Blu-ray one that supports both. My reason is that if companies continue to make players that support both then both will continue to sell. That will only make this drag on even longer.

The other problem here is MS actually doesn't give a damn about HD-DVD in the long run they seem to only be trying to prevent Sony from getting PS3's into homes just because of Blu-ray, because the odds are if they buy a PS3 for movies they also may use it's other features for gaming,DVR,etc. This would plant Sony at the fore front of the all in one media device that MS wants the Xbox to be so that it can one day fully incorporate Windows into every function of the home.

As a side note the PS3 in my opinion does not have as many games (it has not been out for as long) but it certainly is getting better ones then 360 this year, so the complaints will lessen over the next 6 months.

AV_Integrated · 10-12-2007, 02:23 PM

M$ is a software company, they don't care about hardware, they don't care about Blu-ray, and they most definitely don't care about HD DVD.

So what do they care about?

Say it again: Software!

They sell the X360 at cost/loss so they can sell games (software).

The same is true moving forward, they want to own the next gen. video codec. VC-1 is great quality, and M$ wants it to become the defacto standard so they can make a dime for every movie ever stamped using their codec. They'll give it away, include it with Vista/XP and whatever else is necessary to get the royalties. They will then push HD downloadable services (HDDL) and own the company that integrates seamlessly with Vista to deliver HD content right to your PC directly using VC-1.

The second they have ensured no physical optical disc format will take hold permanently, is the second they will turn their backs on Toshiba and walk away from this whole deal... Have no doubts, that the biggest villian in this format war is Microsoft. When almost every company had abandoned Toshiba, and almost every studio was neutral or Blu-ray only, Microsoft stepped in and seriously brought HD DVD back from the dead. They, as much, if not more than Toshiba, are the reason this format war exists at all.

10-12-2007, 12:59 PM	#1
tron3 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2004 Location:New Jersey Blu-ray reviews:3	What is stopping a 3rd party from making a BD drive for X-box360? What is stopping a 3rd party from making a BD drive for X-box360? If I were to answer my own question, I would say MS would never allow the licensing because of HD-DVD - period. But think about it, Xbox 360 sells rather well, and does have a nice assortment of games. PS3 owners here love it for the BD playing abilities, but I do see complaints that it lacks in games. I can only see a BD adaptor for the xbox 360 increasing the sales. I'm not trying to hurt Sony's PS3 sales, but anything which causes more people to buy BD movies is a good thing in the long run. Thoughts?

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10-12-2007, 01:19 PM	#3
scook Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Home Theater Gallery:14 Blu-ray collection:171	I think that this would be an amazing idea and hope that MS wises up and creates this. We all know that MS is all about the $$$$$$$ so why would'nt they implement the best technology into their system. Great idea though -Cook

10-12-2007, 02:03 PM	#5
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	i hope this won't happen. BD is one factor that boost ps3 sales

10-12-2007, 02:05 PM	#6
Branden Senior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, Alberta 4K collection:28 Blu-ray collection:559	even if you plug in an external BD drive and get it working, M$ will still never put BD-J or BD+ compatability on the 360.

10-12-2007, 02:19 PM	#7
Blu Blur Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:USA, greatest country on earth. PSN: TheBanditKing Blu-ray reviews:1	Tron while I understand your position and agree with you, I don't think now is the time. Personally the 360 should be banshied to the lowest pits of hell for all the trouble it is causing it's users but putting my expierences aside I think in the long run this would be a good idea. The simple point is that HD-DVD needs to fail first then give those who bought and HD-DVD player the option of buying a Blu-ray one that supports both. My reason is that if companies continue to make players that support both then both will continue to sell. That will only make this drag on even longer. The other problem here is MS actually doesn't give a damn about HD-DVD in the long run they seem to only be trying to prevent Sony from getting PS3's into homes just because of Blu-ray, because the odds are if they buy a PS3 for movies they also may use it's other features for gaming,DVR,etc. This would plant Sony at the fore front of the all in one media device that MS wants the Xbox to be so that it can one day fully incorporate Windows into every function of the home. As a side note the PS3 in my opinion does not have as many games (it has not been out for as long) but it certainly is getting better ones then 360 this year, so the complaints will lessen over the next 6 months.

10-12-2007, 02:23 PM	#8
AV_Integrated Senior Member Member since:Jan 2005	M$ is a software company, they don't care about hardware, they don't care about Blu-ray, and they most definitely don't care about HD DVD. So what do they care about? Say it again: Software! They sell the X360 at cost/loss so they can sell games (software). The same is true moving forward, they want to own the next gen. video codec. VC-1 is great quality, and M$ wants it to become the defacto standard so they can make a dime for every movie ever stamped using their codec. They'll give it away, include it with Vista/XP and whatever else is necessary to get the royalties. They will then push HD downloadable services (HDDL) and own the company that integrates seamlessly with Vista to deliver HD content right to your PC directly using VC-1. The second they have ensured no physical optical disc format will take hold permanently, is the second they will turn their backs on Toshiba and walk away from this whole deal... Have no doubts, that the biggest villian in this format war is Microsoft. When almost every company had abandoned Toshiba, and almost every studio was neutral or Blu-ray only, Microsoft stepped in and seriously brought HD DVD back from the dead. They, as much, if not more than Toshiba, are the reason this format war exists at all.

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