3D Blu-ray Disc QUESTIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS and GENERAL DISCUSSION Thread

[thebluemax]

If I could use my current HD-TV and my BD player to view some movies in 3-D I probably would. However, to upgrade everything to view something I don't like would be rediculous. 3-D will be a very small niche market. Heck BD is not even mainstream yet

[BMM]

Originally Posted by thebluemax

If I could use my current HD-TV and my BD player to view some movies in 3-D I probably would. However, to upgrade everything to view something I don't like would be rediculous. 3-D will be a very small niche market. Heck BD is not even mainstream yet

Totally agree.

[Biznob]

Originally Posted by Franin

No! because you don't have to put any devices on your ears to enjoy surround sound. What movies are people expecting to be on 3D?

Agreed! I honestly hope 3D movies do NOT become the bread and butter of the film industry. I want to go to a movie, sit back, and relax without the requirement of glasses to make it look good... If the majority of movies do take on the 3D aspect, like many of our time who refuse to watch black and white films, our children are all going to be hating on the 2D ones.

Next thing you know we will have to wear jumpsuits for God knows what technology that they come up with next...

[JacksonLee]

Originally Posted by Biznob

Agreed! I honestly hope 3D movies do NOT become the bread and butter of the film industry. I want to go to a movie, sit back, and relax without the requirement of glasses to make it look good... If the majority of movies do take on the 3D aspect, like many of our time who refuse to watch black and white films, our children are all going to be hating on the 2D ones.

Next thing you know we will have to wear jumpsuits for God knows what technology that they come up with next...

motion controlled plot twists.

i shit you not

[42041]

so I guess following the "digital 3D is a passing fad" logic, Avatar 2 will be a miserable failure...
alrighty then... anybody taking bets?

[Biznob]

Originally Posted by JacksonLee

motion controlled plot twists.

i shit you not

woah... I can see it now.

every time you lean over to kiss your girl, a huge explosion is going to go off, as to get you to look back at the screen.

Stand up to go get popcorn, a gun gets pulled on the main character... is he going to die? That's right, sit your ass back down.

[that1guystudios]

I think it's something that people are going to have to agree to disagree on.
I think that 3-D can enhance a film, like it did with Avatar, or give you a reason to watch an old film again as it did with the re-release Toy Story 1 & 2 this past fall. What's great about 3-D films is that they can always be viewed in 3-D. And as long as Blu-rays are backwards compatible, I don't understand why people get upset that there are films in 3-D. I also think the enjoyment people get out of the films is directly related to their quality of vision, and the glasses/contacts they wear. Also, there are many competing formats of 3-D out there, and some are more effective than others. Many haven't had one good experience with 3-D and therefore write it off as a fad. I have seen over a dozen films in full color Digital 3-D now, and some films have been better than others. Up was a great one, Bolt was also. Avatar was the best.
But I also saw Polar Express and Christmas Carol and hated the experience. Made me nauseous. It's something that effects everyone differently, and I have no doubt that it is something that home theater enthusiasts will be arguing about for years to come.

[vargihate]

I think most of the people here (including me) are confusing the current 3D technology with the 3D of the 80’s and 90’s. When I went to see Avatar, I was actually expecting the red/blue glasses! It’s not the same! There’s a big difference, in fact the illusion of 3D is very impressive; you feel like things are about to touch you or some others are far-far away -- it’s incredible -- go see a 3D movie for yourselves.

Now as far as 3D TV’s, my guess is that there will be a choice; either enable 3D or not. If in fact it’s so uncomfortable for you to wear those glasses then don’t and view the movie in 2D.

[Davidk]

I love 3-d stuff , the Digital 3-D in theatres now is pretty amazing , I have seen 3 movies this year & it was really a lot of fun to see them in 3-d , last one we saw was the Christmas carol 3-d imax .

[Franin]

Originally Posted by 42041

so I guess following the "digital 3D is a passing fad" logic, Avatar 2 will be a miserable failure...
alrighty then... anybody taking bets?

Avatar 2 would be great. But what made Avatar great on 3D? It's size of screen. I don't think a 50" is going to cut it if you want to enjoy 3D you have to do it via projector.

[YodasFootPowder]

Originally Posted by Franin

Avatar 2 would be great. But what made Avatar great on 3D? It's size of screen. I don't think a 50" is going to cut it if you want to enjoy 3D you have to do it via projector.

That's a big thing right there. How many people do you know that have a 40 inch screen or bigger? Personally, I know a lot of people online like all the folks here. But, most of my friends and people I actually know in real life (if they even have an HD monitor yet) have like, a 37 inch or smaller. 3D is not going to be very impressive or worthwhile on screens that small. In fact, I don't even think 3D would be that spectacular on my 52". To truly enjoy it and get the intended experience out of it I feel like you'd need a 60 inch or bigger screen. And even then I think 3D is more of a movie theater/projector experience.

Like I said originally; as long as they offer the 3D and 2D version on my discs they can push 3D crap all they want!

[DarkDune]

I saw Avatar in 3D last night with my wife, and it was impressive -- some flat dialog but it was certainly entertaining!

This was my first current 3D experience and I did get the feeling that I wouldn't want to have it in my Home Theater. I just can't imagine all sitting on the couch with 3D glasses and enjoying the experience like we would in a real movie Theater. 3D actually makes me want to GO to the theater instead of waiting for the Blu or DVD and seeing it at home.

3D for the home is coming, but I think I will prefer it getting me out of the house and on more dates with my wife.

My $.02

[DarkDune]

Originally Posted by vargihate

I think most of the people here (including me) are confusing the current 3D technology with the 3D of the 80’s and 90’s. When I went to see Avatar, I was actually expecting the red/blue glasses!

I saw Avatar in 3D last night and I actually told my wife that I'd LOVE to see some of the old 80's Kung-Fu flix with this new technology!

[Spymaster]

Mmmm. Can't wait to see a good 3-D flick on my 32" telly! Floating heads in the corner of the room. Funny! LOL

And have you tried looking for remotes and drinks and stuff with those glasses on? It ain't easy!

3-D. Bloody stupid idea for the home!

I'll wait for holographic 3-D imaging where the actors actually stand on my coffee table!

[Franin]

Originally Posted by Spymaster

I'll wait for holographic 3-D imaging where the actors actually stand on my coffee table!

Know that is what I want. Monica Belluci, Angelina bring it on

[haphilli]

While I think that 3-D in the theater is amazing, I think that it is too much too soon. DVD sales still outnumber BD sales but the margin is narrowing. Most of my friends don't even own an HDTV. I would love to go to my local theater to watch sporting events and more movies in 3-D but in the home market I have a hard time seeing it succeed.

[Bluyoda]

If I may throw in my cent here. I think that many are kind of afraid of 3-D now.
I mean, look at it this way: We have just spent a handsome amount of cash on home cinema equipment and could finally enjoy movies in the currently best possible fashion, and then they tell us that our Blu-Ray players and HDTVs are not going to work if we want to watch movies in stereoscopic 3-D!?! or just have the resolution....
I have the Pioneer LX-5090, because I wanted the best possible screen available, and the Oppo BDP-83SE, and I am certainly not willing to upgrade my system, but it does kind of suck when people come over, just having seen Avatar, and ask you if you can also watch movies in 3-D on my set!
Honestly, I think Avatar was better in 3-D than 2D, but 3-D has its own share of issues (check out some other comments of mine if you are interested), and I don't know a single movie right now that would demand a 3-D viewing at home. As a matter of fact, I don't know a single good awesome movie in 3-D (I mean story, character wise). Animated Pixar movies work better in 2-D for me.
Avatar was a very, very costly exercise to show what 3-D is capable of, but frankly, I don't think it'll be a big hit in home theaters.
It's a good reason to get off the couch and go see a movie in the theater, because the experience is different from at home, but Blu-Ray is sharper than Cinema, so there is no need to upgrade, at least not for me.
It works for the studios, because they have found a new way to get people into the cinemas, to see sth., they could not view sitting in the living room, and that's fine by me. And like others said, it won't be very impressive on smaller screens anyway, and most people wouldn't want to wear glasses at home to watch a flick.
If you prefer 3-D, good for you. If you have enough money, you won't have trouble upgrading your entire system to watch a few movies in 3-D. I may catch some flicks I am interested in in 3-D when I go to the theater, but that's it. The next TV I am going to buy, once my Pioneer dies, which will hopefully be a long time from now, will probably be 3-D anyway, but I won't run to the next store to get the latest tech, since I guess it'll take years to perfect it after all. Enjoy!. My Pioneer is simply too good!

[Spymaster]

Well here in the UK the vast majority of people are still getting their heads around the digital switch-over. A smaller number are getting their heads around HD broadcasting. An even smaller number are getting into BD.

3-D will do more harm that good. It will confuse punters even more and may even damage the fragile BD market.

I have Beowulf on DVD and Monsters vs Aliens on BD and both look absolutely wonderful, particularly MvA. I saw them both at a cinema in 3-D and, sure, they looked great but they don't look any less great in 2-D. In fact if anything you can get more engrossed in the story because you're not constantly being distracted by the gimmicky effects.

As I've said in another thread: 3-D (unlike surround sound) is fakery. Thus it's not something my senses can ever truly take seriously. For 2 hours in a darkened theater maybe, but not in the comfort of my living room!

[Spymaster]

Originally Posted by DarkDune

3D actually makes me want to GO to the theater instead of waiting for the Blu or DVD and seeing it at home.

And that's the other problem. Hollywood is being typically greedy. They can see tickets sales soar for 3-D movies so, of course, they want to exploit that in people's homes. But what'll happen is the people will stay home again and box office grosses will go down. Do they never learn?

There has to be something special about going to the pictures!

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Spiderbri

I agree with the fad/gimick standpoint. Like someone said, 3D comes around every 5 or 10 years gets some ink for a two or three years and then is gone again.

I read a very good article a few months ago (no link sorry) but it said that even with this new version of lenses and filming, all the problems of 3D will always be there which is why it won't be permanent. Those being that no matter how they do it, to look 3D they force your eyes to see in a way they aren't meant to. enough of the population will still get headaches, or eye strain or nausa because of it.

and what about people like me that wear glasses? it's really awkward to wear some stupid plastic set of junk over or under my glasses. No, contacts or laser surgery isn't an option for everyone. I shouldn't have to conform or spend more money to do what everyone else can do. I buy glasses thats enough.

if 3D goes constant and mainstream in all tv and movies we are going to see a very fast, very big decline in vision of the average human.