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Lacit170 · 01-13-2010, 04:01 PM

Just curious as to how accurate you think their setting recommendations are. Do you swear by them? Do you adjust accordingly??

steve1971 · 01-13-2010, 04:24 PM

I used Tweaktv's settings for my 46inch Bravia and the tv looks very very good PQ wise. Good enough to where I havent touched the settings since I first dialed them in. Do I swear by them? I personally do but there are some that have their own setting prefernces and some who say to have your tv professionally calibrated so its your shot really. But Teaktv's settings work great on my tv.

Lacit170 · 01-13-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by steve1971

I used Tweaktv's settings for my 46inch Bravia and the tv looks very very good PQ wise. Good enough to where I havent touched the settings since I first dialed them in. Do I swear by them? I personally do but there are some that have their own setting prefernces and some who say to have your tv professionally calibrated so its your shot really. But Teaktv's settings work great on my tv.

my tv seems really dark now.. but that could be just becuase i was so used to it being too bright?

Hammie · 01-13-2010, 06:20 PM

All settings that you find on the Interenet should be no more than a baseline to get you started. All TV's are slightly different so what I would get on mine will be slightly different for you. Otherwise, an ISF calibration is a total waste of money, because once you do one TV model, all others would be the same.

If you have NetFlix, the DVE calibration disc used to be available to rent. Some like it while others don't. Even though I own it, I have not used it, but the Spears and Munsil disc is supposed to be much easier to use.

Jsheth · 01-13-2010, 06:51 PM

My tweked looks great
But the colors were a bit too dark and I like em bright so I adjusted that a bit
looks perfect now

Lacit170 · 01-13-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by louhamilton

All settings that you find on the Interenet should be no more than a baseline to get you started. All TV's are slightly different so what I would get on mine will be slightly different for you. Otherwise, an ISF calibration is a total waste of money, because once you do one TV model, all others would be the same.

If you have NetFlix, the DVE calibration disc used to be available to rent. Some like it while others don't. Even though I own it, I have not used it, but the Spears and Munsil disc is supposed to be much easier to use.

Tweaktv.com has basically every model TV and what each tv should be set at.... check it out n lemme know if they are close to the settings you currently use

MrRoy · 01-13-2010, 07:25 PM

I swear by using them as a starting point.

From there, I adjust it until I like what I see.

Hammie · 01-13-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacit170

Tweaktv.com has basically every model TV and what each tv should be set at.... check it out n lemme know if they are close to the settings you currently use

Not even close to what they have.

Keep in mind that I calibrated my TV with an X-Rite Eye 1 Display 2 Colorimeter and the ColorHCRF software. I used the Calibration for Dummies Help guide which was written by our own member kalW.

HiDefRev · 01-13-2010, 07:38 PM

Using someone else's settings will NOT insure that YOUR TV is adjusted properly. Each TV is a little different. And EVERY home is different. What works in my home, will probably NOT work in your home. I recommend a calibration disc, such as the DVE disc. You can use this, not only on your main TV, but on every TV in your home. And if you should move in the future, you can re-calibrate for THAT house. Same thing when you get a new TV - just put the disc in the player and calibrate. You can find a number of different calibration discs at http://www.amazon.com . They are very inexpensive and make a BIG difference.

Lacit170 · 01-13-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HiDefRev

Using someone else's settings will NOT insure that YOUR TV is adjusted properly. Each TV is a little different. And EVERY home is different. What works in my home, will probably NOT work in your home. I recommend a calibration disc, such as the DVE disc. You can use this, not only on your main TV, but on every TV in your home. And if you should move in the future, you can re-calibrate for THAT house. Same thing when you get a new TV - just put the disc in the player and calibrate. You can find a number of different calibration discs at http://www.amazon.com . They are very inexpensive and make a BIG difference.

i an check out the calibration disc... but like i said a few posts above....

Tweaktv.com has basically every model TV and what each tv should be set at.... check it out n lemme know if they are close to the settings you currently use

steve1971 · 01-13-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacit170

my tv seems really dark now.. but that could be just becuase i was so used to it being too bright?

Thats more then likely why the tv looks dark to you. The only settings I didnt use from Tweaktv was the Backlight and Brightness settings. I dropped my backlight to 0 and I set brightness to the factory setting of 50. Another thing I didnt use was Tweaks motionflow setting, they had it set to off and I left mine on Standard and on High for Blu ray watching. Otherwise everything else is the Tweaktv settings.

kaitoe · 01-14-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lacit170

Tweaktv.com has basically every model TV and what each tv should be set at.... check it out n lemme know if they are close to the settings you currently use

Tweaktv.com may have many TV models and settings for each of them, but they'll only be accurate for the exact TV that they got the settings from; not the model, but the television. The most they can be used for is for a baseline -- nothing else.

My television is not on the site, so I can't tell if they're close to my current settings, but I can guarantee, that accurate settings are different on every TV, despite being the same model. Tweaktv.com even has a disclaimer for it as well.

Also, tweaking a television to "what looks good to you," may look nice, but chances are that it won't be accurate to what the picture was originally supposed to look like. That said, if a person just wants the television to look good for them, but not at all accurate, he or she can feel free to adjust the settings to what they want.

ryandubbz · 01-14-2010, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lacit170

Tweaktv.com has basically every model TV and what each tv should be set at.... check it out n lemme know if they are close to the settings you currently use

Basically every tv but mine!

rpatt · 01-14-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by louhamilton

All settings that you find on the Interenet should be no more than a baseline to get you started. All TV's are slightly different so what I would get on mine will be slightly different for you. Otherwise, an ISF calibration is a total waste of money, because once you do one TV model, all others would be the same.

If you have NetFlix, the DVE calibration disc used to be available to rent. Some like it while others don't. Even though I own it, I have not used it, but the Spears and Munsil disc is supposed to be much easier to use.

This is what I did then I fine tuned it with the Spears and Munsil disc. I didn't change much from the CNET settings I used as a baseline.

Lacit170 · 01-14-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kaitoe

Tweaktv.com may have many TV models and settings for each of them, but they'll only be accurate for the exact TV that they got the settings from; not the model, but the television. The most they can be used for is for a baseline -- nothing else.

My television is not on the site, so I can't tell if they're close to my current settings, but I can guarantee, that accurate settings are different on every TV, despite being the same model. Tweaktv.com even has a disclaimer for it as well.

Also, tweaking a television to "what looks good to you," may look nice, but chances are that it won't be accurate to what the picture was originally supposed to look like. That said, if a person just wants the television to look good for them, but not at all accurate, he or she can feel free to adjust the settings to what they want.

Are you trying to say that each tv looks different...? if i have 2 tv models... exactly the same... in the same room... your telling me they will look different with the same settings?? That really makes no sense at all... idk what you're trying to say

steve1971 · 01-14-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacit170

Are you trying to say that each tv looks different...? if i have 2 tv models... exactly the same... in the same room... your telling me they will look different with the same settings?? That really makes no sense at all... idk what you're trying to say

This has me scratching my head as well.

Hammie · 01-14-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacit170

Are you trying to say that each tv looks different...? if i have 2 tv models... exactly the same... in the same room... your telling me they will look different with the same settings?? That really makes no sense at all... idk what you're trying to say

They may look similar, but to get them EXACTLY the same, your settings may vary. Even two TV's side by side in the same room may be a little off. One may need a little more red push, the other may need less contrast.

However, more importantly, two TV's in two different rooms will not look the same with the same settings. Wall colors, ceiling colors, and lighting all affect that way a TV is viewed. For example, look at the various pictures where the colored cryon lights are behind the TV. Look at the screen. It takes on the same color hue as the light, that is why so many like the green lights for the Incredible Hulk or the Matrix. This is the same concept as the way walls are colored and how they will affect the picture of a TV. A color known as 'Neutral 6.5' is probably the best color for the walls on an HT when the screen is properly calibrated. TV's and projectors are attempted to be calibrated to as close to 6500 Kelvin as possible. 6500 Kelvin, of D65, is the color temperature of sunlight. Asa comparison the normal lightbulb in a house is about 3000 Kelvin. Quite a big difference and why many times your pictures will be yellow when no flash is used and white balance was properly selected.

Alan Brown · 01-15-2010, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lacit170

Are you trying to say that each tv looks different...? if i have 2 tv models... exactly the same... in the same room... your telling me they will look different with the same settings?? That really makes no sense at all... idk what you're trying to say

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1055906

kaitoe · 01-15-2010, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacit170

Are you trying to say that each tv looks different...? if i have 2 tv models... exactly the same... in the same room... your telling me they will look different with the same settings?? That really makes no sense at all... idk what you're trying to say

That's exactly what I'm trying to say. If there are two televisions that are exactly the same model with the same settings, they will not look identical. To quote G. Alan Brown from his post at Avsforum.com,

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Electronic component tolerances used in consumer TVs and source components are very loose and imprecise (+/- 10% or worse). Because these tolerances are so imprecise, two samples of TV can come off the same assembly line and require very different picture settings to look near the same.

... I was called in as an image quality analysis consultant for one of the largest national cable TV companies. They were doing a research project, using three new higher-end Panasonic 50" plasmas of the same model, and set up in ideal viewing conditions. Their engineers had gone over the picture settings on each display and set the menu items all identically. Two of the plasmas looked nearly like each other (still not identical), but the third one obviously looked quite different.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1055906

For most people copying settings, the situation is exacerbated because of the different viewing conditions.

EDIT: Seems like Alan Brown has already posted the link to the quote.

kingofgrills · 01-16-2010, 12:11 AM

If you're not going to get a full ISF calibration to start with, I would suggest carefully choosing a calibration setting from TweakTV, and following that up with the DVE Blu-ray calibration disc to fine tune it.

Using this method will get you a good looking picture with darks and color saturation levels, but nothing will beat an actual ISF certified calibration. Often settings will vary from input to input or depending on the signal source, so it is good to individually calibrate each combination. You can also have different settings calibrated for various levels of room lighting.

TweakTV and DVE as a combo will work fairly well, but a true calibration would be best.

01-13-2010, 04:01 PM	#1
Lacit170 Blu-ray Count Member since:Jun 2008 Location:CT 4K collection:99 Blu-ray collection:728 DVD collection:261 Trading Score:1	Tweaktv.... Just curious as to how accurate you think their setting recommendations are. Do you swear by them? Do you adjust accordingly??

01-13-2010, 07:38 PM	#9
HiDefRev Active Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:State of Relativity Blu-ray collection:35	Tweak Using someone else's settings will NOT insure that YOUR TV is adjusted properly. Each TV is a little different. And EVERY home is different. What works in my home, will probably NOT work in your home. I recommend a calibration disc, such as the *DVE* disc. You can use this, not only on your main TV, but on every TV in your home. And if you should move in the future, you can re-calibrate for THAT house. Same thing when you get a new TV - just put the disc in the player and calibrate. You can find a number of different calibration discs at http://www.amazon.com . They are very inexpensive and make a BIG difference.

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01-13-2010, 04:24 PM	#2
steve1971 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Saint Paul Minnesota. 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:352 Blu-ray reviews: 119 Trading Score:1	I used Tweaktv's settings for my 46inch Bravia and the tv looks very very good PQ wise. Good enough to where I havent touched the settings since I first dialed them in. Do I swear by them? I personally do but there are some that have their own setting prefernces and some who say to have your tv professionally calibrated so its your shot really. But Teaktv's settings work great on my tv.

01-13-2010, 06:20 PM	#4
Hammie Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Washington, DC Metro Home Theater Gallery:53 Blu-ray collection:545 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:12	All settings that you find on the Interenet should be no more than a baseline to get you started. All TV's are slightly different so what I would get on mine will be slightly different for you. Otherwise, an ISF calibration is a total waste of money, because once you do one TV model, all others would be the same. If you have NetFlix, the DVE calibration disc used to be available to rent. Some like it while others don't. Even though I own it, I have not used it, but the Spears and Munsil disc is supposed to be much easier to use.

01-13-2010, 06:51 PM	#5
Jsheth Active Member Member since:Dec 2008	My tweked looks great But the colors were a bit too dark and I like em bright so I adjusted that a bit looks perfect now

01-13-2010, 07:25 PM	#7
MrRoy Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:39	I swear by using them as a starting point. From there, I adjust it until I like what I see.

01-16-2010, 12:11 AM	#20
kingofgrills Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:PDX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Trading Score:31	If you're not going to get a full ISF calibration to start with, I would suggest carefully choosing a calibration setting from TweakTV, and following that up with the DVE Blu-ray calibration disc to fine tune it. Using this method will get you a good looking picture with darks and color saturation levels, but nothing will beat an actual ISF certified calibration. Often settings will vary from input to input or depending on the signal source, so it is good to individually calibrate each combination. You can also have different settings calibrated for various levels of room lighting. TweakTV and DVE as a combo will work fairly well, but a true calibration would be best.

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