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Old 01-18-2010, 09:19 AM   #10
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No, there are plenty of plasmas that are 60hz. You are probably thinking about the advertised 600hz sub-field that manufacturers are stating which is something totally different. It has to do more with motion resolution, but its really just a marketing point. Plasmas have never had motion problems.

The difference between LCDs and plasmas are not just about the refresh rates, but also the response times. The reason you see LCDs with 120hz, 240hz, and the upcoming 480hz refresh rates is to give better motion resolution and make up for the disadvantage that LCD's have with response time. Of course these higher refresh rates are also desirable for 24p playback to eliminate judder as well.

Plasmas have such fast response times that motion isn't a problem which is why you never see plasmas with motion blur like you can see with LCDs. Plasma response times are a tiny fraction of a millisecond while the best LCDs are around 2ms.

As far as 24p playback goes, or movies shot at 24 frames per second to be precise, a multiple of 24 is desirable for the best results. Since most TV's refresh at 60hz you have to use 3:2 pull down since 60 is not a multiple of 24. This results in judder, but a set like the G10 which refreshes at 48hz will produce no judder although at this lower refresh rate some people will see a flicker.

Pioneer sets are 72hz, a multiple of 24, so there will be no judder nor will there be a flicker. Samsung sets are 96hz and the Panasonic V10 and Z1 are both 96hz so these will not produce judder or a flicker either. 60hz LCDs of course use 3:2 pull down so they will produce judder, but 120hz and 240hz sets don't since these are multiples of 24. Like I said before, there are plenty of plasmas that refresh at 60hz including all of the entry level Panasonic and LG sets.
So plasmas advertised as 600hz have nothing to do with judder? I would still need to find out the "true" refresh time of a plasma if I wanted no judder? (e.g. the U1, I can't find a "true" refresh rate for it, but it is a entry level set, so according to you its 60hz?)

The U1, however, I believe is advertised as having the 24p feature. Does that mean its 48, 72, or 96hz?

And I didn't think lcds really had a "blur" problem, I think I read a review of the plasma S1 that had a terrible "blur" (colors trailing, mixing, etc) problem.

I could be, and probably am, wrong.

Thanks.
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