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Old 10-24-2007, 04:11 PM   #21
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HVD - Holographic Versitile Disc

That one is something to behold when it comes out. I have a feeling itll be the successor to blu-ray. We'll be watching Super HD quality movies on it. The way I see it

PS3 - 100GB blu-ray
PS4 - 200GB blu-ray drive
PS5 - HVD (3TB)

Xbox 360 - DVD
XBOX 720 - 100 GB Blu-ray
XBOX 1080 - 200 GB blu-ray
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:13 PM   #22
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Honestly would we need this much room? (Re: BD200) ...
Think of it this way, imagine buying your favorite TV shows on BD and only needing one or two discs per season. What a space saver!

Or watching Transformers (or insert favorite title here) where the WHOLE movie the bit rate is virtually topping off at the maximum.

PLUS, plenty of room for extras all in HD.

So, maybe not now, but yes, I say we need it. I'd buy a second BD player which supports BD100/200 if it meant getting Transformers on it. Ultra
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:15 PM   #23
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acualy HVD can carry 3.8 tb although talking in terabytes the .8 is quite alot, but don't forget about protein coated disks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein-coated_disc

and the ps4 probably wont stick with blu ray each console has gone up a format
PS1-CD
PS2-DVD
PS3-Blu-ray
though they have been backwards compatible

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Old 10-24-2007, 04:23 PM   #24
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so im guessing it will go
PS1-CD
PS2-DVD
PS3-Blu ray
PS4-HVD
PS5-PCD (protein Coated Disk)
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:25 PM   #25
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so im guessing it will go
PS1-CD
PS2-DVD
PS3-Blu ray
PS4-HVD
PS5-PCD (protein Coated Disk)
something else could come up by ps5 or even ps4. what were doing would be like talking about blu-ray back in the early days of Playstation.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:28 PM   #26
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Some might survive as a useful media to burn on. But costs would be too high if it never got rolling.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:29 PM   #27
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but its cheaper so i think HDVMD could be a possible contender considering its 30gb on a considerably cheaper disk
It's cheaper and has less capacity. It also has a slower data transfer rate.
Blu technology will come down in price. I REPEAT:

It has NO long term advantages over Blu.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:31 PM   #28
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something else could come up by ps5 or even ps4. what were doing would be like talking about blu-ray back in the early days of Playstation.
Blu ray was in development about the late 3rd year of PS2s release (still in early stages
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:32 PM   #29
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you do realise thats 60gb per layer right but it costs more by about 15 20 pounds a disk
60gb per layer isn't that much more than what Blu does. It's more but not THAT MUCH more. Esp. considering the ALREADY demonstrated multi-layer Blu technology.

I REPEAT:
storage capacity not big enough to warrant scrapping Blu-ray
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:36 PM   #30
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60gb per layer isn't that much more than what Blu does. It's more but not THAT MUCH more. Esp. considering the ALREADY demonstrated multi-layer Blu technology.

I REPEAT:
storage capacity not big enough to warrant scrapping Blu-ray
were not talking about scrapping were talking about thepossibility of another format war which we might need to prepare for
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There will never be an product in our lifetimes targeted toward a mass market above maybe 1440p

The problem is that 1080p supports very well the screen sizes that can fit in people's homes. You can show a good Blu-Ray on a full-size movie theater screen and it looks great. I've done it

I seriously doubt we'll see any commercial 100GB Blu-rays, hasn't HD DVD and DVD-18 taught us over and over that the more layers over 2, the exponentially greater failure? BD-50 can hold by itself a superior compression of a 2.5 hour movie. Why is everyone always looking for that bigger disc?

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60gb per layer isn't that much more than what Blu does
That's 2.5 times the per-layer of Blu

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were not talking about scrapping were talking about thepossibility of another format war which we might need to prepare for
There is no "other" format war. It's simply not going to happen. This is it, done.
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60gb per layer isn't that much more than what Blu does


That's 2.5 times the per-layer of Blu
I know that, but it isn't enough to warrant studios either adding another format to whatever they are releasing now, or scrapping Blu-ray and incurring the costs of new replication facilities, etc. Esp. since the costs of Blu are coming down.

I stand by my statement. Still.

AND BESIDES THAT, BD50 DISCS ARE THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGY. 60 IS ONLY 1.2 TIMES THE STORAGE OF BD50.

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Old 10-24-2007, 08:59 PM   #33
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i think it would acually be the smaller file size ones that cost less that would be better contenders seen as you average student/teenager ect doesn't have enough money to fork out on a £700 blu-ray player. and 50gb is a dual layer blu 120gb would be a dual layer of one of those
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Old 10-24-2007, 09:25 PM   #34
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Honestly, I see this as the last of the major formats/format wars.
The next step will certainly be downloading... and I can see BD in it's 50-200 gig incarnations taking us through to about 2025 for any thing that does need discs.

PS4? Probably BD and fully making use of the disc space, who knows, maybe it will even read the higher specced BD's... but I get the feeling games will be downloaded.
Hell, I already paid £20 and downloaded Warhawk in a few minutes yesterday. No disc, no physical media.


Actually it would be cool if they had BD burners in the PS4, that way you can either buy the game or download it and burn it if you want a physical copy!

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