Aspect Ratios - The Director's Vision

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by morebetterness

The scenes also didn't look distorted in any way. Nothing was altered.

It was altered because the director didn't want you to see that extra information.

If a director wants you to see it, he will change the aspect ratio for the film release: The World's Fastest Indian is a good example.

[morebetterness]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

It was altered because the director didn't want you to see that extra information.

If a director wants you to see it, he will change the aspect ratio for the film release: The World's Fastest Indian is a good example.

So that is possible to take the ratio of a 2.40:1 theater release and release it on a Blu Ray as a 1.85:1?

[Dotpattern]

Originally Posted by morebetterness

So that is possible to take the ratio of a 2.40:1 theater release and release it on a Blu Ray as a 1.85:1?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/1333857-post1.html

[morebetterness]

Edward Scissorhands. Ok look at that image, you have the old style tv with the widescreen movie displayed as it should be. Black bars top and bottom.

Now on the 16:9 tv, Minimal minimal black bars, which some tv's calibrate to completely remove what little black bars are showing. Bam, your entire tv is being utilized with a widscreen movie that looks great!

So you had mentioned that 2.40 and 1.85 are the same hieght? Like the image is the same height but the 2.40 is wider which means it has to be shrunken to get the entire image on a 16:9 without cutting off the sides?

I just really like the look of movies that are 1.85:1

Personal Opinion

[42041]

Originally Posted by morebetterness

I just really like the look of movies that are 1.85:1

Personal Opinion

Personally, I bought my TV to watch films, but I suppose buying films to watch your TV is also a valid use of a home theater

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by morebetterness

Edward Scissorhands. Ok look at that image, you have the old style tv with the widescreen movie displayed as it should be. Black bars top and bottom.

Now on the 16:9 tv, Minimal minimal black bars, which some tv's calibrate to completely remove what little black bars are showing. Bam, your entire tv is being utilized with a widscreen movie that looks great!

So you had mentioned that 2.40 and 1.85 are the same hieght? Like the image is the same height but the 2.40 is wider which means it has to be shrunken to get the entire image on a 16:9 without cutting off the sides?

I just really like the look of movies that are 1.85:1

Personal Opinion

1.37 and 1.85 and 2.39 films are supposed to be shown at the same height with the image getting wider 1.37 -> 1.85 -> 2.39 with the last one reaching our peripheral vision (One reason they are called "Scope' movies).

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It's the limitation of the home display that changes this on the home. Those with Projectors can recreate this at home with a constant image height set up. (Or you can sit a couple of feet closer, when watching Scope movies on your 16:9 TV).
You like ~1.85 movies on TV because the image is taller on a 16:9 TV. Taller in movie language means closer. On a theater even sitting on the last row, the theater screen is perceptually as tall or taller than your 16:9 fullscreen image, for both Scope and 1.85 movies.



Scope wide 35mm movies are made in two ways.
Shot with anamorphic lens this is what the 4:3 camera sees:

anamorphic.jpg

This is how it's projected:



Shot in Super-35 this is what the camera sees:

S35.jpg

This is how it's projected:

projection.jpg


Just like the 4:3 shaped Super-35 camera example above ^^, Standard Widescreen (1.66-1.85) movies are also made in 4:3 cameras
like non-widescreen 4:3 Academy movies like this one, were made:



But instead are composed in the camera viewfinder for Widescreen Projection, just like like in S-35:


This is what a camera using the full aperture sees:

full aperture.jpg

This it's how it's projected:

wide from full apt.jpg

This is what a camera using a hard matte sees:



This it's how it's projected:



(Note that both scenes above are from the same movie, which used different cameras in different days for different scenes, but when projected in widescreen these camera differences are eliminated)

[42041]

Originally Posted by morebetterness

So that is possible to take the ratio of a 2.40:1 theater release and release it on a Blu Ray as a 1.85:1?

It's possible if the movie was shot on super35, it's also a terrible idea. Do you understand that composition is the very art of photography?