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Old 02-03-2010, 04:53 PM   #1
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Hi there!

Been very tempted to buy the Superman/Superman Returns set on Blu, but because there are two copies out there (one with lossy audio and one with True-HD), not sure how to tell which is which.

Anyone have any clues?

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Old 02-03-2010, 06:31 PM   #2
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hey

Superman The Movie has never been released on Blu-Ray with a lossless soundtrack, however Warner did apparently replace Superman Returns with a PCM track if I am correct? HTH

I think the double Blu pack has the one with lossy audio - though I might be wrong.
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Old 02-05-2010, 08:57 AM   #3
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Furthermore Superman The Movie isn’t the original Dolby stereo mix as exhibited in (1978) 70mm Dolby format 43. Its been re-mixed and even the so called original over the extended directors version has some sly new sound effects placed on the Dolby mix as well as few missing Foley effects SIGH.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:02 AM   #4
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I think the 'Collectors Edition' (4 Disc or 2 Disc, Region 4) DVD has the original stereo track.. have not watched it in a while though.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:14 AM   #5
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I think the 'Collectors Edition' (4 Disc or 2 Disc, Region 4) DVD has the original stereo track.. have not watched it in a while though.
NO don’t think your ether 100% positive or not. Warner made a real sheer mess of this. I noticed it all the way though and was mighty pissed off!

I have the original Dolby stereo 4.2.4 scope on VHS PAL and unless you have old copy on laserdisc or VHS for analysis, then I assure you its the same sly messed up version. I have them all on DVD region 2 DVD and I’m not amused.

I don’t mind what Richard Donner had done to the directors cut it’s the original version of the 70mm road show that I want to listen too, as it was also the first film to have (split-stereo surrounds) and all they did was slyly place the new sound effects over the so called 1978 original.

Hence its not original in sound the picture is cut to the same length it’s the Dolby mix they botched up! I’m telling you. In certain parts of the mix!

Take a listen to the petrol station exploding during the earthquake sequence it’s the same sound effect (used for the directors cut ) and that is new sound effect not the original sound effect as heard in 1978!

Listen to where Perry Mason tags on Daily Planet newspaper WTF! Where is the sound!!! Listen to the France or one of the other language tracks which I guess you don’t do, listen and you’ll hear!

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ok then lol, im 100% positive the original stereo is on the DVD.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:29 AM   #7
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ok then lol, im 100% positive the original stereo is on the DVD.
Well what ever have it your way, you probably never saw it in the cinema around 1978. And you probably don’t have it on laserdisc. Buy the laserdisc it is priceless over the bluray even thou its Dolby stereo 4.2.4 its still PCM.

The VHS Hi-Fi stereo is noisy and the PCM laserdisc will shine fantastically.

I saw the single bluray directors cut edition at HMV Castle Point a few weeks back for around £13.00 and just stuck my nose up at! Not interested because, I want originals!

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Have you listened to the stereo track on the CE DVD?
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Old 02-10-2010, 03:41 AM   #9
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Hi there!

Been very tempted to buy the Superman/Superman Returns set on Blu, but because there are two copies out there (one with lossy audio and one with True-HD), not sure how to tell which is which.

Anyone have any clues?

Cheers!

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I just picked up Superman Returns with TrueHD a couple days ago. You will have to look at the back of the BD case to see which audio track it has.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:33 PM   #10
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I just picked up Superman Returns with TrueHD a couple days ago. You will have to look at the back of the BD case to see which audio track it has.
Was this in the us tho? as sure the pcm/truehd version was never released over here in the uk
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Was this in the us tho? as sure the pcm/truehd version was never released over here in the uk
Amazon in the U.S. is shipping out copies of Superman Returns (linked below) that feature the PCM/Dolby TrueHD soundtracks. The BD is region-free and will play in Europe, or anywhere for that matter.

http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Returns-Blu-ray-Brandon-Routh/dp/B001F3FUK6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1268274800&sr=1-1
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:32 AM   #12
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Yea i no i been after it for a while now but still dont no whether i wanna pay that price for it
What do you think the odds of gettinbg the pcm/truehd version from the marketplace ?

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Yea i no i been after it for a while now but still dont no whether i wanna pay that price for it
What do you think the odds of gettinbg the pcm/truehd version from the marketplace ?
I do not think it is worth the small price difference, because many of the Marketplace copies will be the older, lossy version. You might want to contact a seller directly, and ask them if the back of the packaging lists the PCM/TrueHD.
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Thanx mate for the reply, yea i contacted one earlier and they have just replied in the last few minutes saying it only has dobly 5.1
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Not sure if this is the right place to post this this but I was interested in getting the UK edition that included the extended TV edition. Now does this contain lossless audio (the rear of the packaging says Dolby Digital) or this a misprint and it’s identical to the US release. Thanks
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Not sure if this is the right place to post this this but I was interested in getting the UK edition that included the extended TV edition. Now does this contain lossless audio (the rear of the packaging says Dolby Digital) or this a misprint and it’s identical to the US release. Thanks
There are more language tracks on the UK disc so it is possible that the lossless English 5.1 track is not included.
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:15 AM   #17
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There are more language tracks on the UK disc so it is possible that the lossless English 5.1 track is not included.
Possibly. I was just wondering whether this was a direct port of the US version but obviously not. Thanks. Would’ve been good to have uncompressed for both cuts.
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