The whole "Matrix and Terminator Series were really One" story

[Groo The Perverted]

Originally Posted by Al_The_Strange

It's easy to see how the two are related, but there are key differences. The biggest thing is that the machines in "The Matrix" enslaved humanity (

[Show spoiler]and by the end of the saga, they wound up co-existing with humanity

). "The Terminator" is all about...well...termination!

I also think it's a bit much to say that John Connor and Neo are one and the same; one is a military leader, the other becomes more of a spiritual leader. Neo never takes command of any military forces (except for one hovercraft); in fact, he is low on the chain of command throughout the three films. He is actually more powerful within the matrix than outside. John Connor, on the other hand, can push his weight around and exercise control over manpower and resources. To me, the two are totally different men.

Nope, to me the two sagas are completely different, even if they have many simularities. If we start blending these together, we might as well say that Han Solo and Buck Rogers are one and the same. Or William Wallace and Rob Roy are the same. Maybe Star Trek and Star Wars occupy the same galaxy.

However, reading up on the issue, there may be credence that the filmmakers may have ripped off one book. I may have to find a copy, see what started it all!

There ARE differences, but those differences could have come into play past what we have seen.

The machines enslaving vs. coming to co-exist. The Matrix finale could have been the end of that whole storyline.

The differences between Connor/Neo, IN THE MOVIES, yes they were very different, however I'm going under the idea that the CONCEPT of these being tied in, could work very well, because aside from some derivations, there are elements that could tie in.

Essentially the Terminator stuff would be in the past, and the Matrix stuff would be in the present/future.

Mainly referring to the First Terminator flick and the first Matrix.

To boil it down to the basics, being the computers/machines (embodied in "the Matrix" and "Skynet" in the two movies) trying to enslave mankind, and they would send machines back (terminators/agents) to kill the "Neo" character's mother before he was born, and would grow up to be "the one" or whatever.

So instead of "co-existing" they would continue to dominate and enslave.

Interesting idea, anyway.