Owners of Samsung LED DLP's, please help

[Go Blue]

I have the HLT5089S Samsung LED DLP and have noticed a couple of issues. For one, I can see bowwing at the very top of the screen. But the most annoying thing to me is the actual screen of the TV. The screen seems to "sparkle" (for lack of a better word) when on solid colors that are moving or especially the skin of anyone on the picture. I have heard this called SSE (silk screen effect) and that it is common in DLP's. I have owned another Samsung DLP and never seen this before. Does anyone have similar issues with theirs? Any help is appreciated.

[bootman]

I have the 6187S and I haven't seen anything like this.
At the AVS forums, bowing is a common complaint.
How old is your set?
If it's severe, you will need a service tech to come look at it.

The "sparkling" might be the rainbow affect of the color wheel.
Does it get worst (or better) if you rapidly move your head from side to side?
The LED engine is supposed to reduce the rainbow effect, and for me it did verses a lamp based set.
Others however have reported the exact opposite.

Everyone's eyes are different so I'm not surprised of this.

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by bootman

I have the 6187S and I haven't seen anything like this.
At the AVS forums, bowing is a common complaint.
How old is your set?
If it's severe, you will need a service tech to come look at it.

The "sparkling" might be the rainbow affect of the color wheel.
Does it get worst (or better) if you rapidly move your head from side to side?
The LED engine is supposed to reduce the rainbow effect, and for me it did verses a lamp based set.
Others however have reported the exact opposite.

Everyone's eyes are different so I'm not surprised of this.

led's dont have color wheels

but yes all dlp's have the silk screen effect reason you see it in your led version is that its set to be super bright.

turn the settings off dynamic to standard and then turn off DNIE enhancement via the advanced picture menu. see if that helps

[Borrik]

Completely off topic... Anyone have some color settings that are any good besides the factory Movie, Dynamic, Standard. Just curious.

And no, i do not have this problem with my Samsung HL-T5687S LED DLP HDTV

[GTsmokeya]

The bowwing problem is bad, I have slim dlp's and led dlp's and I notice it alot on the new slim dlp's vs. the old ones i have around. The sparkly effect may be what the other person said turn dynamic off, but I would leave the dnie on myself.

GTsmokeya

ps. I believe led's dont have fly wheels any more, that was considered a big benefit to switching other than life and color.

More info on the dlp's with no color wheel:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hdt...-dlp-hdtv.html

[Go Blue]

Originally Posted by daisuke149

led's dont have color wheels

but yes all dlp's have the silk screen effect reason you see it in your led version is that its set to be super bright.

turn the settings off dynamic to standard and then turn off DNIE enhancement via the advanced picture menu. see if that helps

I have it set to Standard, not Dynamic, already, but I do have DNIE on. Do you see any problem with my setting below? Should I call Samsung?

Picture menu: Standard
Contrast: 75
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 25
Color: 60
Tint: G52/R48
Color Tone: Normal
Size: Just Scan
Digital NR: Auto
DNIe: On
Color Gamut: Wide

--Detailed Settings menu
Black adjust: High
Dynamic contrast: High
Gamma: 0
White Balance: 0

[WickyWoo]

Turn DNIE off, and turn off Just Scan, that's only for computer use

[daisuke149]

Originally Posted by schultz

I have it set to Standard, not Dynamic, already, but I do have DNIE on. Do you see any problem with my setting below? Should I call Samsung?

Picture menu: Standard
Contrast: 75
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 25
Color: 60
Tint: G52/R48
Color Tone: Normal
Size: Just Scan
Digital NR: Auto
DNIe: On
Color Gamut: Wide

--Detailed Settings menu
Black adjust: High
Dynamic contrast: High
Gamma: 0
White Balance: 0

soory i dont have one myself and prolly wont lol. i dont like the dlp's.

but on any samsung tv not just urs, turning DNIE off makes the picture look more natural Along with other things. give it a shot.

[jashnew]

I have a Samsung DLP TV model HL-T5687S. I have the same exact problem. I especially see the sparkles on hockey ice. Its bad on white backgrounds. Its not so bad if you're watching hi-def channels or blu-ray. I had it professionally calibrated and that did not help. I also called Samsung back in October and they had no complaints. Now that the tv has been out a while and I found another person with the problem I'm going to call Samsung again.

[Go Blue]

Originally Posted by jashnew

I have a Samsung DLP TV model HL-T5687S. I have the same exact problem. I especially see the sparkles on hockey ice. Its bad on white backgrounds. Its not so bad if you're watching hi-def channels or blu-ray. I had it professionally calibrated and that did not help. I also called Samsung back in October and they had no complaints. Now that the tv has been out a while and I found another person with the problem I'm going to call Samsung again.

I don't have the TV anymore. It was problem after problem and I ended up demanding a full refund from Samsung, which they gave to my suprise. I then used the +$2K from the refund to buy the Pioneer plasma in my sig for almost the same price. I couldn't be happier with my Pio.

The type of screen they use is cheap and will always have a silk screen effect to it, especially if you are sensitive to it like I am. I had them replace my screens and it did not help, it actually made it worse because the techs got dirt/dust in between the screens (there are 2).

[WickyWoo]

Id say part of your problem is the quality of the transmission

[jashnew]

WickyWoo- When you say transmission are you talking the quality of the signal that runs from the cable box to the t.v.?

[Collectors Set]

A buddy of mine who recently got LED was complaining tremendously about the sparkle problem when watching the NBA finals the other night. He said it was really bad around the jerseys and heads of the players, depending on how close the camera was to them.

For someone looking to upgrade their 2nd gen Samsung DLP to 1080p, do any of you recommend going with the most current Samsung 4th gen but with lamp still?? It sounds like between the sparkle and bowing thing with LED its really like a lottery that you don't want to win; I would much rather be stuck dealing with the condensation smudge issue on the lamp screens where all I had to do was yank the screens out and carefully clean them as opposed to dealing with a much more serious problem that could be permanent.

[Collectors Set]

Originally Posted by schultz

I don't have the TV anymore. It was problem after problem and I ended up demanding a full refund from Samsung, which they gave to my suprise. I then used the +$2K from the refund to buy the Pioneer plasma in my sig for almost the same price. I couldn't be happier with my Pio.

The type of screen they use is cheap and will always have a silk screen effect to it, especially if you are sensitive to it like I am. I had them replace my screens and it did not help, it actually made it worse because the techs got dirt/dust in between the screens (there are 2).

Nice move. This procedure can be a serious challenge. I did it but had to wear latex gloves and even layed down a new clean sheet all over the floor. It was kind of a pain as I had those terrible smudges that were prone to happen on early gen DLP's.

Hey was this problem you describe when watching actual blu ray movies or just TV channels or both -- which was worse???

[jashnew]

Collector Set- Its strange. The sparkles are prevelent on white and flesh tones. Hockey ice is very bad. On a true HD picture its less of a problem. I can see it on Blu-Ray but its rare. I have had the t.v. since November and I'm getting to the point where I'm not noticing it. Next time I guess its a high end LCD.