Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Not buying them should get Warner's attention. There's already a lot of people not buying them because they're not the extended versions. Now factor in those people who won't buy because of the quality. That's a considerable amount of lost sales.

Warner catches heat for a reason. LOTR is one of those titles they should have went the extra mile for.

Are they supposed to be a poor quality? I thought they had great transfer coming. Am I wrong? (Then again I've not looked into the transfer quality all that much)

[MarekM]

Originally Posted by Fors*

Why does he say the audio is Dolby TrueHD 5.1 when we have been told it is now DTS-HD 6.1? I hope he is wrong.....

well, one site is talking about TrueHD, other one DTS HD MASTER 6.1
so wich is it ?

Marek

[X400]

Originally Posted by Fors*

Why does he say the audio is Dolby TrueHD 5.1 when we have been told it is now DTS-HD 6.1? I hope he is wrong.....

pretty sure Bill just type-o'd

even on his review page he has the dts-hd logo plastered at the top

coupled with the other review and what we hear from warner, there's no reason to believe that its anything but a type-o

[X400]

Originally Posted by backslashio

I took some screencaps from my Extended DVD version against the bluray pics posted on that french review



For me it really was a staring competition to see the difference compared to King Kong bluray vs dvd which was as clear as night & day. It looks more focused, sure, but its not a mind blowing picture

you can really notice the cgi on the blu-ray

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by saprano

Can't say i didn't....warn you guys.

Warn a brother!

[backslashio]

Originally Posted by Fors*

Nice pics.....for an audiophile like myself, I really like what I see (my eyes are not the greatest, I admit), especially in the first pic comparison......

My eyesight must be worse than yours because I've always had a problem seeing in-depth detail

[denger76]

I admit the LOTR Extended Versions are definitely better and seem to flow seamlessly as if they naturally belong in the trilogy. But I have to give in to my need to watch (at least) the theatrical versions in Blu Ray before 2012!!! I agree with all of you that studios are being ridiculously greedy in having multiple BD releases of movies (special edition, director's cut, anniversary edition) give me a break! Capitalism is alive and well in the USA. OBTW how can one purchase only LOTR: FOTR without having the other two movies - this is a true trilogy!

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by backslashio

My eyesight must be worse than yours because I've always had a problem seeing in-depth detail

I don't think I am someone to compare your eyesight with. I can see a difference in those pics, but I am sure others see even more detail (or lack thereof) than I can.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Bill Hunt

It's just that Two Towers and Return of the King are absolutely fantastic, with abundant detail and crisp, refined textures.

[wildphantom]

This is hilarious!!
Fanboys dissing the new blu-rays based on random screencaps on forums. Flaming WB.

Then a couple of reviews show up, praising it to the hilt. Including the widely respected Bill Hunt. LMAO

All we need now is a Robert Harris rave and those doubters will have to hold their hands up and admit its better to actually see the thing than judge it based on a screenshot. Except they won't of course. Backing down is not something your average fanboy is willing to do.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Anyone else think that "The Restoration" part on the site will never go live?

I'm lost. What are you talking about?

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by wildphantom

This is hilarious!!
Fanboys dissing the new blu-rays based on random screencaps on forums. Flaming WB.

Then a couple of reviews show up, praising it to the hilt. Including the widely respected Bill Hunt. LMAO

All we need now is a Robert Harris rave and those doubters will have to hold their hands up and admit its better to actually see the thing than judge it based on a screenshot. Except they won't of course. Backing down is not something your average fanboy is willing to do.

What?

It is an indisputable fact that the HDTV broadcasts are superior in image quality to this Blu Ray release. Find any, any, frame of the BD version and compare it to the HDTV version. They've obviously usedthe old master and have not bothered to re-scan for this release.

It's (the HDTV broadcast) virtually the identical release minus DNR.

There is copious amounts of proof to back this up.

Bill Hunt can say it's the greatest looking Blu Ray of all time, that doesn't make it true. If he had put into his review the fact that it doesn't look as good as the broadcast version that probably would've put an entirely different spin on it. If a repackaging of the HDTV version with DNR applied is adequate for you, that's fine.

And what does this have to do with "Fanboy" anything? Everyone complaining is a Blu Ray "fanboy," or a LotR fanboy.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by wildphantom

This is hilarious!!
Fanboys dissing the new blu-rays based on random screencaps on forums. Flaming WB.
Then a couple of reviews show up, praising it to the hilt. Including the widely respected Bill Hunt. LMAO

All we need now is a Robert Harris rave and those doubters will have to hold their hands up and admit its better to actually see the thing than judge it based on a screenshot. Except they won't of course. Backing down is not something your average fanboy is willing to do.

Exactly what I have been trying to say. Now all we need is to have Rob Enderle criticize this release and it will be complete.

[Fors*]

Is this thread ever going to get back on topic, instead of discussing the PQ of screenshots? I am sad.......

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

What?

It is an indisputable fact that the HDTV broadcasts are superior in image quality to this Blu Ray release. Find any, any, frame of the BD version and compare it to the HDTV version.

It's (the HDTV broadcast) virtually the identical release minus DNR.

There is copious amounts of proof to back this up.

Bill Hunt can say it's the greatest looking Blu Ray of all time, that doesn't make it true. If he had put into his review the fact that it doesn't look as good as the broadcast version that probably would've put an entirely different spin on it. If a repackaging of the HDTV version with DNR applied is adequate for you, that's fine.

And what does this have to do with "Fanboy" anything? Everyone complaining is a Blu Ray "fanboy," or a LotR fanboy.

No it's not indisputable. Copious amounts of proof? Based on someone else's screenshots. I can't compare the HDTV broadcasts to the Blu-ray release and neither can you, until you are actually looking at the Blu-ray on your HDTV and compare it to the HDTV broadcast.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by radagast

No it's not indisputable. Copious amounts of proof? Based on someone else's screenshots. I can't compare the HDTV broadcasts to the Blu-ray release and neither can you, until you are actually looking at the Blu-ray on your HDTV and compare it to the HDTV broadcast.

So what you're claiming is whoever (the multiple people actually) posted the version comparisons altered the Blu Ray shots to make them look worse?

Honestly?

You can't be that dumb.

[wildphantom]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

What?

It is an indisputable fact that the HDTV broadcasts are superior in image quality to this Blu Ray release. Find any, any, frame of the BD version and compare it to the HDTV version. They've obviously usedthe old master and have not bothered to re-scan for this release.

It's (the HDTV broadcast) virtually the identical release minus DNR.

There is copious amounts of proof to back this up.

Bill Hunt can say it's the greatest looking Blu Ray of all time, that doesn't make it true. If he had put into his review the fact that it doesn't look as good as the broadcast version that probably would've put an entirely different spin on it. If a repackaging of the HDTV version with DNR applied is adequate for you, that's fine.

And what does this have to do with "Fanboy" anything? Everyone complaining is a Blu Ray "fanboy," or a LotR fanboy.

You might be right that they're inferior to the HDTV broadcasts you've seen. I'm assuming you have seen those right? Or is this another 'based on screenshots' argument?
At the end of the day if qualified critics in the industry say LOTR looks really good on blu-ray then that's good enough for me. Early days yet, I'll wait for a few more reviews. But I'm encouraged with what I've read.

I live in the UK and we've only ever had the third film broadcast in HD without ad breaks. So I will happily take the other movies on blu-ray without ad breaks and deem them better versions than the ones I have on my Sky HD box.

I loosely used the term fanboy when perhaps I shouldn't have. I class myself as one for sure. However, I would rather wait and see the thing for myself, or read reviews from respected critics whose job it is to critique these things before making my mind up.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by wildphantom

You might be right that they're inferior to the HDTV broadcasts you've seen. I'm assuming you have seen those right? Or is this another 'based on screenshots' argument?
At the end of the day if qualified critics in the industry say LOTR looks really good on blu-ray then that's good enough for me. Early days yet, I'll wait for a few more reviews. But I'm encouraged with what I've read.

I live in the UK and we've only ever had the third film broadcast in HD without ad breaks. So I will happily take the other movies on blu-ray without ad breaks and deem them better versions than the ones I have on my Sky HD box.

I loosely used the term fanboy when perhaps I shouldn't have. I class myself as one for sure. However, I would rather wait and see the thing for myself, or read reviews from respected critics whose job it is to critique these things before making my mind up.

What do you mean "Based on screenshots" argument? The old HDTV version is from a progressive Dish broadcast. If its frames look better than the Blu Ray version then it looks better in motion as well, it's as simple as that. Do you think there's some magic spell involved here?

The mere fact that it looks inferior to the old HDTV broadcast version is very disappointing. If you don't see a problem with this I don't know what to tell you man. People here seem to think that if it's better than the DVD it's "Good enough," and if it's "Good enough" it's legitimately good. I think that's a ridiculous argument.

Personally I was hoping, I dunno, that they'd remaster it. Guess that's too much to ask.

Do you remember how many "respected" critics praised Gladiator to no end? What exactly is that supposed to prove? Somehow comparing the actual frames of each presentation is a faulty argument but taking the word of a jackass with no proof whatsoever is a better way to go?!? Ok, makes perfect sense.

[Mike2060]

The pictures on the AVS forums are NOT screenshots, they are screen CAPS which are taken directly from the final blu-ray so they are 100% accurate. It's not like eric.exe used a camera to take a picture of his screen.

[neo78956]

So far so good, two professional reviewers gave the set very high scores. Can we all just relax now? Sheesh...