not so fast HD DVD fan's your touting the Walmart card....? - Blu-ray Forum

thrlride · 11-01-2007, 01:05 PM

It will be great for price but we can't have out cake and eat it too.

The majority of people here say the A2 is junk, trash, will have tons of returns. The cheap Chinese players will be a huge step down no doubt from even the Toshiba's.

Is it really a good thing? A cheap player like this won't attract customers that are willing to pay for movies.

joeorc · 11-01-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thrlride

It will be great for price but we can't have out cake and eat it too.

The majority of people here say the A2 is junk, trash, will have tons of returns. The cheap Chinese players will be a huge step down no doubt from even the Toshiba's.

Is it really a good thing? A cheap player like this won't attract customers that are willing to pay for movies.

read again Funai is no slouch trash brand...they won that award for a reason.

and this Funai its going to be a 2.0 player compatable player right out the gate....the price is rumored to be $300.00

Deane Johnson · 11-01-2007, 01:28 PM

So, for someone who had neither a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player, but is betting on and planning for Blu-ray in the long run, is the $98 A2 a good purchase to just to play around with it. How is it for upscaling regular DVDs, anything at all?

Thanks for your thoughts.

thrlride · 11-01-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

So, for someone who had neither a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player, but is betting on and planning for Blu-ray in the long run, is the $98 A2 a good purchase to just to play around with it. How is it for upscaling regular DVDs, anything at all?

Thanks for your thoughts.

They say it is one of the best upconverting DVD players but I haven't seen one myself. I can tell you, in my experience upconverted DVD is terrirble compared to both HD media formats.

Spankey · 11-01-2007, 01:32 PM

You can do whatever you want with your money. I have better things to do with $98. Like buy more Blu-ray discs.

Is there any way any hardware company is ever going to come around to producing players that cost $98. Most people who see this will think it is just a cheap DVD player. Heck, if I needed a DVD player I might buy this even if I didn't have an HDTV. Did you hear that? EVEN IF I DIDN'T HAVE AN HDTV. This player may sell out and not move that much software.

thrlride · 11-01-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by joeorc

read again Funai is no slouch trash brand...they won that award for a reason.

and this Funai its going to be a 2.0 player compatable player right out the gate....the price is rumored to be $300.00

That's great. $300 would be a great price point.

FWIW, Toshiba has won numerous design and quality awards too.

Deane Johnson · 11-01-2007, 01:44 PM

This does seem like a rather disparate move from Toshiba. For Walmart to sell these at $98 means they purchase them for less than that. Toshiba has much more invested in each one to get them to market. The loss has to be huge on each unit.

I read this, and other moves, as Toshiba trying disparately to find something that floats as they jump off the Titanic into the water.

Spankey · 11-01-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

This does seem like a rather disparate move from Toshiba. For Walmart to sell these at $98 means they purchase them for less than that. Toshiba has much more invested in each one to get them to market. The loss has to be huge on each unit.

I read this, and other moves, as Toshiba trying disparately to find something that floats as they jump off the Titanic into the water.

They are riding their last talking point to the grave. Cheap Players. It has been cheap, cheap, cheap, for months as Blu-ray began to dominate. With Warner's statements this week, they can only hope to get more players into people's hands hoping Warner sales go up. If Warner goes Blu exclusive it is game over HD-DVD. If Warner goes HD-DVD exclusive, it is a stalemate.

Deane Johnson · 11-01-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spankey

If Warner goes HD-DVD exclusive, it is a stalemate.

I know this has been discussed a lot, but I should think it almost an impossibility. WB has made too many positive Blu-ray statements lately, and the imbalance of their sales toward Blu-ray would make it unlikely they'd drop it. They've repeatedly said they were watching sales, and if so, the sales story is pretty clear.

I don't think Toshiba can get the players cheap enough to change the trend. I don't think the "cheap" crowd in general is that aware of high def or has anything to display it on.

Toshiba is doing nothing more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. This is not the fork being stuck in Blu-ray. It's the other way around.

thrlride · 11-01-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

Toshiba is doing nothing more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Kudos, I love that quote. LOL

Spankey · 11-01-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

I know this has been discussed a lot, but I should think it almost an impossibility. WB has made too many positive Blu-ray statements lately, and the imbalance of their sales toward Blu-ray would make it unlikely they'd drop it. They've repeatedly said they were watching sales, and if so, the sales story is pretty clear.

I don't think Toshiba can get the players cheap enough to change the trend. I don't think the "cheap" crowd in general is that aware of high def or has anything to display it on.

Toshiba is doing nothing more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. This is not the fork being stuck in Blu-ray. It's the other way around.

I agree completely. I just don't see Disney, Fox and Sony ever going HD-DVD. Warner has been positive lately. I wouldn't be surprised if this thing ended sooner than later. Toshiba has to be tiring of these fire sales week after week. Give away 10 movies with cheap player. No change in weekly software sales. At $99 can the $50 price point be far behind? So much for offering a lucrative format for manufacturers. Who is going to buy a player for anything more than $100 now? I'm not that kind of sucker.

joeorc · 11-01-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thrlride

That's great. $300 would be a great price point.

FWIW, Toshiba has won numerous design and quality awards too.

the Q:is have Toshiba ever won the award from walmart...i do not think so...

Walmart is not exclusively carrying HD DVD Blu-Ray will still be carried for black-friday. which means more playstation 3's being sold with wait a min Spiderman 3..thats what ..yea a blu-ray movie.."but people do not KNOW playstation 3 plays blu-ray" they will now...

thrlride · 11-01-2007, 01:58 PM

It's said that toshiba is crap along with magnavox and rca. Right? Do you think Funai is better than those brands?

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11-01-2007, 01:05 PM	#1
thrlride Banned Member since:Oct 2007	It will be great for price but we can't have out cake and eat it too. The majority of people here say the A2 is junk, trash, will have tons of returns. The cheap Chinese players will be a huge step down no doubt from even the Toshiba's. Is it really a good thing? A cheap player like this won't attract customers that are willing to pay for movies.

11-01-2007, 01:28 PM	#3
Deane Johnson Active Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Omaha, NE	So, for someone who had neither a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player, but is betting on and planning for Blu-ray in the long run, is the $98 A2 a good purchase to just to play around with it. How is it for upscaling regular DVDs, anything at all? Thanks for your thoughts.

11-01-2007, 01:32 PM	#5
Spankey Power Member Member since:Oct 2006	You can do whatever you want with your money. I have better things to do with $98. Like buy more Blu-ray discs. Is there any way any hardware company is ever going to come around to producing players that cost $98. Most people who see this will think it is just a cheap DVD player. Heck, if I needed a DVD player I might buy this even if I didn't have an HDTV. Did you hear that? EVEN IF I DIDN'T HAVE AN HDTV. This player may sell out and not move that much software.

11-01-2007, 01:44 PM	#7
Deane Johnson Active Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Omaha, NE	This does seem like a rather disparate move from Toshiba. For Walmart to sell these at $98 means they purchase them for less than that. Toshiba has much more invested in each one to get them to market. The loss has to be huge on each unit. I read this, and other moves, as Toshiba trying disparately to find something that floats as they jump off the Titanic into the water.

11-01-2007, 01:58 PM	#13
thrlride Banned Member since:Oct 2007	It's said that toshiba is crap along with magnavox and rca. Right? Do you think Funai is better than those brands?

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