Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[DaViD Boulet]

Originally Posted by jonmoz

As Todd says you have to use your recievers,processing to get 6.1 or 7.1 depending on your system,as a Dts 6.1 es matrix is only in effect a 5.1 signal,like the Dolby digital 5.1 ex system as released on The lord of the rings Dvd's.

For the true 6.1 version it has to be encoded as Dts 6.1 es discrete,like the Terminator skynet edition which shows up as 6.1 on my Onkyo reciever.

Wonder why they didn't use discrete 6.1 then?

or maybe their mix/master at the studio was already downmixed to 5.1 channels with the center rear matrixed, so they just used that master rather than remixing?

[jonmoz]

I would assume they used a Dts 6.1 es matrix track,as this is pretty much the same as the Dolby digital 5.1 ex track found on the dvd's.

They did make it Master audio though,and lets be fair most Dts Master audio tracks found on Blu-ray discs are 5.1.

Most peoples recievers convert to 7.1 anyway.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

I thought this interview with Richard Taylor that was published today was interesting:
http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2010/04...99-on-blu-ray/
It looks like he was not connected to any great extent with the BD transfer. I thought at least he would have viewed the final product!

He did special effects for the movies, why on earth would he be involved in a BD transfer?

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by KubrickFan

He did special effects for the movies, why on earth would he be involved in a BD transfer?

Wouldn't they want all major players in the production to at least view the final product before it was released?

[goldenrod]

There's one thing I dont get at all. How come that it is cheaper here in Canada than in the U.S.? Regular edition: 49.99 canadian here.
Best Buy with sword; Future Shop with Steel Case and Wal-Mart with ring and chain are 55.99

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet

or maybe their mix/master at the studio was already downmixed to 5.1 channels with the center rear matrixed, so they just used that master rather than remixing?

Correct.

Originally Posted by jonmoz

For the true 6.1 version it has to be encoded as Dts 6.1 es discrete,like the Terminator skynet edition which shows up as 6.1 on my Onkyo reciever.

T2: Skynet is also 5.1-ES, not 6.1

A true DTS-MA 6.1 discrete would be something like X-MEN: The Last Stand

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by jwoodwar

I bet all the people who complained on amazon or the PQ bought the Lord of the Rings Trilogy today.

and this is one reason why the studios will keep mucking up titles. its all about the money.if enough people who complained really didn't buy it, maybe the studios would make more of an effort,maybe.

[jonmoz]

I will check this out Peter as on the box of the Terminator skynet edition it's listed as Dts Master audio 6.1,and it's also listed this way on the Blu-ray.com review,there is also a Dolby digital 5.1 ex track as well.

[ryan11]

Right now I don't have anything to put my digital copies on. Can I put them on my crapy computer then tranfer them later on to a laptop or Ipod?. Im know LOTR doesn't expire till April 4, 2011 but I have other movies that might still be active. I was thinking of buying a cheap flash drive and putting them on their for awhile. Anything on digital copies will be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou.

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by jonmoz

I will check this out Peter as on the box of the Terminator skynet edition it's listed as Dts Master audio 6.1,and it's also listed this way on the Blu-ray.com review,there is also a Dolby digital 5.1 ex track as well.

it is in fact listed on the back of the sleve and box as DTS-HD-MA 6.1

[ricwhite]

I posted some screenshots of LOTR: The Two Towers over in the screenshots forum.


Here is the Link

Overall, it was better than the first one. Although a little inconsistent, there were some scenes that were especially sharp and detailed.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by dborgill

Well, after reading and posting for several weeks, I finally got to sit down at watch FOTR last night. First, my setup:

- 55" Sony Bravia A3000 1080p SXRD
- Marantz Receiver (DTS-HD track)
- Sony PS3

I had my sound cranked and ready for action. At first I thought the picture was a bit soft, then when Sauron gets his digits chopped off and there was the close up of Isildur and the ring, I was getting excited with the sharpness and detail. NOW WE ARE TALKING! Then... the Shire came. The ultimate diss to ANY Blu-Ray. My WIFE said, "Ummm... are you sure this is Blu-ray?!" -- OUCH! My thoughts exactly. I thought the entire Shire and Bag End area was a mess. The rest of the movie was pure ups and down video wise. I give it 3/5.. barely.

Audio on the other hand.. PERFECTION. I give it 5/5 easily. Dialogue, music and sound effects were all perfectly balanced.

Watching Two Towers tonight...

that statement by your wife tells the whole story with blu-ray. a statement we shouldn't be hearing with this format. this why some studios need to step up to the plate and do the right thing. the right thing to do with the lotr trilogy is to restore the films from the bottom up.one thing that hurts these films is the use of dnr.

you may have to put up with some grain, but the result is detail,something dnr destroys. as long as studios take short cuts were gonna keep having theses debates. the sad part is the studios really don't care about what or how we want to view our blu-ray movies. they only understand dollars and cents.

if sales come in low on this trilogy they will look for the cause.if the sales come in big they will just move on to the next project. history shows so far that even when the studio mucks up movies like this [gladiator,startrek first 6 movies,gangs of newyork,and now lotr trilogy] people buy them anyways.

the ee's won't be any better as well as when paramount does the directors cuts on statrek. why should they be.people never learn and can't ignore the temptation to buy subpar blu-rays

until people like you me can give the studio a big middle finger to subpar blu-rays like lotr trilogy and not buy them,noting will change. i love this format and its fun to own a piece of history in hi-def,but not like this.

[Gremal]

Originally Posted by tvine2000

that statement by your wife tells the whole story with blu-ray. a statement we shouldn't be hearing with this format. this why some studios need to step up to the plate and do the right thing. the right thing to do with the lotr trilogy is to restore the films from the bottom up.one thing that hurts these films is the use of dnr.

you may have to put up with some grain, but the result is detail,something dnr destroys. as long as studios take short cuts were gonna keep having theses debates. the sad part is the studios really don't care about what or how we want to view our blu-ray movies. they only understand dollars and cents.

I don't see how you can conclude DNR was used in the blu-ray production. How do you know what you're seeing wasn't digital processing applied to produce the source material, e.g., to make the CGI appear more seemless. Some reviewers see substandard detail and jump to the conclusion that DNR was used. It's not necessarily so.

if sales come in low on this trilogy they will look for the cause.if the sales come in big they will just move on to the next project. history shows so far that even when the studio mucks up movies like this [gladiator,startrek first 6 movies,gangs of newyork,and now lotr trilogy] people buy them anyways.

Of course. BD is a growing format. LOTR is the raison d'etre for many a home theatre. This will have huge sales as well it should. That's only a good thing for the format. Boycotting a release like this accomplishes nothing. If you don't want to partake in the fun of enjoying the theatrical versions of these films in high definition, no one is forcing you. But to pretend that has an impact on studio decisions and then try to force that ideology onto others who are genuinely excited to watch these BDs...that seems kinda narcissistic.

[Adam.C]

Originally Posted by ricwhite

I posted some screenshots of LOTR: The Two Towers over in the screenshots forum.


Here is the Link

Overall, it was better than the first one. Although a little inconsistent, there were some scenes that were especially sharp and detailed.

dunno if its me, but those screens look horrible. Colors look so off, over saturated.

[Monkey]

thanks for the pics ricwhite.. His nose, looks funky... maybe it just the light

[jonmoz]

Well pointed out PeterTHX,it's a 5.1 track,it is confusing as it even states 6.1 Master audio on the disc menu.

But of course neither the menu or the box tell you whether its 6.1 matrix or discrete,i had to put the disc on my system to check.

It's just when i watched this last sound came through all my seven spekers,but this is because i always use the Thx Ultra sound mode,i needed to check on the Onkyo recievers display to how many channels were in use.

Thanks again Peter.

[billzfan]

We always talk about what we like better about the extended version but what do people here like better about the theatrical versions?

I'll list mine:
1. Flows better and gets going out of the gate quicker without the concerning hobbits part.
2. No Aragorn singing.
3. Less Gimli jokes
4. Less Merry and Pippin jokes.

[tkbryant]

Anyone else notice a white line on the far right of the screen during the river scene with Arwen and the water horses? It's there for about 8-10 seconds. I have my Kuro settings on dot by dot which is pixel for pixel resolution. Its definitely there and seems to bee some kind of digital error.

[mrpink134]

Well I don't know if this has been posted but High Def Digest changed the Review for LOTR here's a link

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2313...gstrilogy.html

[billzfan]

Originally Posted by mrpink134

Well I don't know if this has been posted but High Def Digest changed the Review for LOTR here's a link

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2313...gstrilogy.html

What did they change?