Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[BigB88]

Originally Posted by Paladin

This is where you are wrong. All the studios aren't interested in two HD formats. There can be only one winner, and they have to catch-up or they will die. WB has dropped a major hint, if HD DVD doesn't start selling they will become Blu Ray exclusive, after that HD DVD will die.

This is Toshiba's last grasp. Here is the kicker, they can move a ton of these units, but if the buyers don't start buying HD DVD disks (or more importantly WB HD DVD disks) they will loose anyway.

Paladin

Well I disagree. Studios are interested in one thing, cash in their pocket, anything else is useless and meaningless, if they are making $$$ they will support 50 formats, as long as they make money. If Toshiba's strategy works (that is if they can dump enough crap on to the market), then WB and even other studios will look at this as an increased market base from which to sell their wares and they will simply continue to support HD-DVD, they won't even look at point in time software sales, that won't mean anything. Remember, the HD-DVD strategy has changed over the past year, they are no longer in it to win, they just want to survive and "co-exist". I want to see that group and that format dead and if I were the BDA I would being doing everything possible at this point to kill the competing format, they just don't seem to be doing much of anything at the present.

[TruBlu2]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

You are so right.

Playstation? Never heard of it, it was drowned under by the Nintendo 64.

Playstation 2? Dominated by the Gamecube and Xbox.

CDs? Who'd ever want these? Cassettes FTW!

My god if one more person posts that Sony always loses format battles I'm going to go postal.

Playstation was never drowned over by Nintendo 64--- PS1 is the second most successful selling gaming console ever---FACT

Playstation 2 has sold over 120mil and counting units. PS2 is the most successful selling gaming console ever!!!!---FACT

Sony INVENTED the Compact Disc---CD for the layperson (who are many on this thread)

AND COMING SOON ---PS3's remarkable sales milestones it will achieve along with Blu-ray as the #1 HD format!!!!!!!!!!

Stop bashing Sony you trolls, why don't you guys go and watch your hddud's with composite cables on your hddud players before there are a dollar item on you garage sale table.

Oh, by the way
Welcome to Blu-ray trolls!!!!

COOL, Post #420---going to take a BREAK!!!!

[StilettoViper]

Originally Posted by BigB88

Well I disagree. Studios are interested in one thing, cash in their pocket, anything else is useless and meaningless, if they are making $$$ they will support 50 formats, as long as they make money. If Toshiba's strategy works (that is if they can dump enough crap on to the market), then WB and even other studios will look at this as an increased market base from which to sell their wares and they will simply continue to support HD-DVD, they won't even look at point in time software sales, that won't mean anything. Remember, the HD-DVD strategy has changed over the past year, they are no longer in it to win, they just want to survive and "co-exist". I want to see that group and that format dead and if I were the BDA I would being doing everything possible at this point to kill the competing format, they just don't seem to be doing much of anything at the present.

They are in BETA mode. They are counting on the quality over quantity thing just like Sony did with Beta when VHS came on the scene. Big mistake....everyone knows Beta was superior to VHS. Didn't matter. I keep saying it's a marathon not a sprint. The more HD-DVD players sold, the less people will be interested in Blu. So people saying HD-DVD players will be door stops might look like Deer in Headlights when their Blu players become the same. They should be careful because karma is a b1tch. I think BDA needs a lower cost player ASAP....

Mod note: For the millionth time, Beta quality for pre-recorded movies was exactly the same for prerecorded VHS movies: 486i vertical lines x 240 lines horizontal resolution x 1.33 aspect ratio recorded on 1/2" tape. HD DVDers have taken the ball and ran with that fud as a predictor of Blu-ray failing. You know what? that means that for spreading FUD, THEY READILY ACCEPT hd dvd is an inferior format!

[thrlride]

Originally Posted by TruBlu2

Playstation was never drowned over by Nintendo 64--- PS1 is the second most successful selling gaming console ever---FACT

Playstation 2 has sold over 120mil and counting units. PS2 is the most successful selling gaming console ever!!!!---FACT

Sony INVENTED the Compact Disc---CD for the layperson (who are many on this thread)

AND COMING SOON ---PS3 remarkable sales milestones it will achieve along with Blu-ray as the #1 HD format!!!!!!!!!!

Stop bashing Sony you trolls, why don't you guys go and watch your hddud's with composite cables on your hddud players before there are a dollar item on you garage sale table.

Oh, by the way
Welcome to Blu-ray trolls!!!!

COOL, Post #420---going to take a BREAK!!!!

Every heard of sarcasm?

I love it, you just called someone agreeing with you a troll.

[TruBlu2]

Originally Posted by thrlride

Every heard of sarcasm?

I love it, you just called someone agreeing with you a troll.

LOL, I thought you might have been after I wrote it.

I still got it off my chest from the original poster I guess.

hehe

no problem

[StilettoViper]

Originally Posted by BigB88

Well, I agree with you, but I guess we are in the minority here. Let's just hope that the pieces of crap they are selling will break soon!

This whole thing is running the same course almost as Beta although the major plus this time is that Blu-Ray has more studio support whereas beta had just Sony basically at the time. If the BDA continues to think avg joe's want to spend money on a component other than their TV they are nuts. Just won't happen...While the HD-DVD players are junk, they still work and are still an upgrade to DVD that will work on their sparkling new $1999 HDTV's. They'll be happy with it and their new Transformers HD-DVD for the kiddies.....

[thrlride]

Originally Posted by TruBlu2

LOL, I thought you might have been after I wrote it.

I still got it off my chest from the original poster I guess.

hehe

no problem

Oh crap, now I'm confused. LOL

terjyn said:
Playstation? Never heard of it, it was drowned under by the Nintendo 64.
then followed up with:
My god if one more person posts that Sony always loses format battles I'm going to go postal.

You then said:
Playstation was never drowned over by Nintendo 64--- PS1 is the second most successful selling gaming console ever---FACT
then followed up with:
top bashing Sony you trolls, why don't you guys go and watch your hddud's with composite cables on your hddud players before there are a dollar item on you garage sale table.

Oh, by the way
Welcome to Blu-ray trolls!!!!

I think you read his stats without seeing his sarcasm admission at the end.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by m_tyson

... I told the girl working in the electronics section that I was looking for an HD-A2. She responds: "Do you know that the A2 is last year's model, and that it doesn't do 1080p?". I still asked if they have any, and she checked inventory on their computer system. Zero in the Mission Valley store, 1 in Mira Mesa, and 1 in Chula Vista. That's it for all of San Diego. ...

Wow, even the HD DVD sales are dead on arrival. We know few of these players are in stock to begin with. This storm is just a lot of wind. Little threat to blu-ray with those stock numbers. Kudos to the sales girl for knowing it was last years model and only did 1080i.

Toothless dog people. Move along, nothing to see here. Move along.

[UltimateFighter]

**** Bestbuy's got it too

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/b...d-other-hd-dv/

[sj001]

Originally Posted by thrlride

Many have said they can't lower prices on movies otherwise why would studios even release a premium product for the same price as dvd. You're assuming HD will replace DVD. I'm assuming they won't.

I think they will eventually replace DVD, just as Hi definition TVs and the like eventually replaced SD-definition TVs... just the natural course of things.

[Bullseye]

Do people not check threads before posting. That BB has been mentioned 4 or 5 times.

[TruBlu2]

Originally Posted by UltimateFighter

**** Bestbuy's got it too

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/b...d-other-hd-dv/

F is right

[TruBlu2]

Originally Posted by thrlride

Oh crap, now I'm confused. LOL

terjyn said:
Playstation? Never heard of it, it was drowned under by the Nintendo 64.
then followed up with:
My god if one more person posts that Sony always loses format battles I'm going to go postal.

You then said:
Playstation was never drowned over by Nintendo 64--- PS1 is the second most successful selling gaming console ever---FACT
then followed up with:
top bashing Sony you trolls, why don't you guys go and watch your hddud's with composite cables on your hddud players before there are a dollar item on you garage sale table.

Oh, by the way
Welcome to Blu-ray trolls!!!!

I think you read his stats without seeing his sarcasm admission at the end.

he he, I know that now!!! hehe

[sj001]

Originally Posted by UltimateFighter

**** Bestbuy's got it too

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/b...d-other-hd-dv/

Yeah, if you can find it.

[BigB88]

Originally Posted by UltimateFighter

**** Bestbuy's got it too

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/01/b...d-other-hd-dv/

Yep, I just talked to a friend of mine who works at our local Best Buy and he said they were already sold out! They hardly needed to advertise. And in another dynamic, which I would never have thought, he said they are also selling the other more expensive HD-DVD units as well. In other words, they came in to buy an HD player, first saw the $99 one and then thought; come hell or high water, they are going to get one. Hope this isn't happening at other retailers and I am hopeful its only isolated.

[monkyman]

Best buy online shows them as sold out, and not available for store pick-up.

[m_tyson]

Originally Posted by Grif32

I doubt she said "Do you know that is doesnt do 1080P"

yeah it wont be a big event but still an amazing price.

Chris

I guess you should have been there. I listen well and cross-examine people on the record for a living, if that helps.

[GoldenRedux]

CED

[Elandyll]

Classic Bait and switch tactic.

Advertise a cheap product that you know you do not have in quantities (with very fine prints: Limited to product in stocks), and then hope that because the client came in to buy your cheaper product, he'll still come home with the higher priced version.

Hopefully tht 'll come right back at em with people getting p'ed off and buying Blu Ray units intead.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by thrlride

This made me smile and I thank you. I guess you could say I am playing devils advocate more than being one sided. I admitted other times that I am neutral and that is true. Honestly I don't want to get banned as I like to stay up on what both sides are doing. I also don't feel right shaking blu pom-poms when I disagree with something.

Thanks again though, I do appreciate your comment.

yeah i'm actually kind of worried to post some of my comments now after seeing people getting banned simply for saying something bad about blu-ray. just because we prefer blu-ray doesn't mean we have to agree with everything they do or not side with hd dvd on something.

i love blu-ray, but that shouldn't mean i have to spout blu-ray only from my mouth...does it?