Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010 - Page 442 - Blu-ray Forum

ricwhite · 04-10-2010, 11:51 PM

A movie expert on the KSL radio movie show (Utah) said that the Lord of the Rings Blu-ray movies look WORSE than regular DVD.

I'm sure that kind of misinformation must affect people's buying habits.

lDlisturb3d · 04-10-2010, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricwhite

A movie expert on the KSL radio movie show (Utah) said that the Lord of the Rings Blu-ray movies look WORSE than regular DVD.

I'm sure that kind of misinformation must affect people's buying habits.

Nope not really, if they like them they are gonna wanna know for themselves. Remember we are a very curious species.

Fighter · 04-10-2010, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricwhite

A movie expert on the KSL radio movie show (Utah) said that the Lord of the Rings Blu-ray movies look WORSE than regular DVD.

I'm sure that kind of misinformation must affect people's buying habits.

Bull shite....he must not be an expert then

calvoamp · 04-10-2010, 11:56 PM

I am just starting to watch the last movie in the trilogy and so far they look a hell of a lot better than my DVD version.

Riff Magnum · 04-10-2010, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

He was either insane or a genius or this stuff is real. I'm pretty sure he wasn't crazy. I'm sure he was a genius. The last part, I'm not sure.

LOL!! That says it all to me.

sejanus · 04-10-2010, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HDPlasma

I believe if this movie were observed in a film critic class involved in reviewing the PQ of the movie and NOT the story itself, we would all come to the same conclusion, FOTR is not near reference quailty and only slighty better than upconverted DVD.

What a lot of nonsense. I have the EE dvd's and have watched them via upscaling (yamaha 3900). The bluray might have it's flaws but is still a significant step up in PQ from the dvd. If you think otherwise really you need your eyes checked.

calvoamp · 04-11-2010, 12:00 AM

The funny thing that I just noticed is that the special edition discs ( 1 per movie ) are DVD and not Blu ray, any one else care to share on this?

Fighter · 04-11-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by calvoamp

The funny thing that I just noticed is that the special edition discs ( 1 per movie ) are DVD and not Blu ray, any one else care to share on this?

Yeah, I noticed that too...I never watch the special features or extra's, etc. So, I can't really elaborate on that. Found that kind of weird though that they put that on DVD.

lDlisturb3d · 04-11-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by calvoamp

The funny thing that I just noticed is that the special edition discs ( 1 per movie ) are DVD and not Blu ray, any one else care to share on this?

i own quite a few bd.'s with the special features on a regular dvd. It really doesn't matter unless you want Hi Def extras. IMO i doesn't matter. Put more effort into the movie. F the extras lol.

lDlisturb3d · 04-11-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sejanus

What a lot of nonsense. I have the EE dvd's and have watched them via upscaling (yamaha 3900). The bluray might have it's flaws but is still a significant step up in PQ from the dvd. If you think otherwise really you need your eyes checked.

don't worry HD PLASMA is one of THOSE GUYS........ Let him play in the dark. Ha

calvoamp · 04-11-2010, 12:33 AM

LOL,yeah I guess but we still pay for BD so I think everything should be HD, I could barely care for regular special features on a comedy movie for example but on great looking movies ie LOTR or Avatar I would like to have that option.

PeterTHX · 04-11-2010, 12:45 AM

Well, looks to me (like I said) we have another The Fifth Element situation where the HD broadcast was just a sharpened version of what was on the Blu-ray.

Scroll to the bottom of the page:
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...sharp-mask.htm

Look at this and you'll see why a similar effect could explain why Gandalf appears "more detailed"...

(I dare someone to say the original, untouched photo is "DNRed to death")

radagast · 04-11-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by deeman54

Remember its not the DVD and Blu Ray, Its just the Blu ray so don't get too excited to prove someone wrong.

I'm curious as to whether the sales will be less than expected, given the animosity shown on Amazon about the EEs not being released on BR. If the sales are much lower than expected, the price may drop.

radagast · 04-11-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Well, looks to me (like I said) we have another The Fifth Element situation where the HD broadcast was just a sharpened version of what was on the Blu-ray.

Scroll to the bottom of the page:
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...sharp-mask.htm

Look at this and you'll see why a similar effect could explain why Gandalf appears "more detailed"...

(I dare someone to say the original, untouched photo is "DNRed to death")

Oh great. Thanks a lot. We could have used this link about 10,000 posts ago.

Makes perfect sense to me, though.

gregmasciola · 04-11-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Well, looks to me (like I said) we have another The Fifth Element situation where the HD broadcast was just a sharpened version of what was on the Blu-ray.

Scroll to the bottom of the page:
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...sharp-mask.htm

Look at this and you'll see why a similar effect could explain why Gandalf appears "more detailed"...

(I dare someone to say the original, untouched photo is "DNRed to death")

So you're saying that this:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3821/lotr7tv.png
is just a sharpened image of this:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4505/lotr7bd.png

I wish my Blockbuster had the Blu-Ray so I could really see for myself if that screen capture is accurate or not. Until then I won't know for sure.

Hep · 04-11-2010, 01:31 AM

I just finished the FOTR. First, I really enjoyed watching these movies again. I found it really hard to focus on being critical of the PQ because the movie is just so engaging. Having said that, it was still obvious to me this movie is a noticeable PQ upgrade over the EE DVDs (on my set-up). It is my suspicion that the softness we are seeing is mostly source based. I would need much more proof of process before I would even suggest that Warner (and PJ) screwed-the-pooch. Of course I won’t commit one way or the other, but that is exactly the point; anyone trying to make absolute statements about the technical processing of this transfer is kidding themselves. I am very happy with my upgrade, and I would do it again after having seen the final product with my own eyes.

Even if a marginal PQ upgrade is realistically possible, given the option of having this movie come out as-is now, or not at all until enough time and $ are available to achieve such an upgrade, then I choose to take it now and enjoy the obvious upgrade.

LordoftheRings · 04-11-2010, 01:33 AM

I'll wait for The LOTR Trilogy Blu-ray EE; meanwhile 'Avatar' is here April 22nd, on my Birthday which is Earth Day.

HDPlasma · 04-11-2010, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Of course but to hear some of the members on this site sometimes, make's me wonder if they actualy watch the movies for entertainment or they buy them just look for every little tiny details to complaint about them

If we are just to view the movie for their pure entertainment value, VHS would be good enough. The whole purpose of blu-ray is to provide more picture details and a minimum of 5x the improvement on PQ over DVD.

ts0323 · 04-11-2010, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HDPlasma

If we are just to view the movie for their pure entertainment value, VHS would be good enough. The whole purpose of blu-ray is to provide more picture details and a minimum of 5x the improvement on PQ over DVD.

+1
Very true.

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Originally Posted by gregmasciola

So you're saying that this:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3821/lotr7tv.png
is just a sharpened image of this:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4505/lotr7bd.png

I wish my Blockbuster had the Blu-Ray so I could really see for myself if that screen capture is accurate or not. Until then I won't know for sure.

It doesn't look quite that bad, but it's pretty much accurate.
The HD broadcast is not just a sharpened version of the Blu-ray version.
On the Blu-ray, Gandalf's beard looks like a painting.

lDlisturb3d · 04-11-2010, 01:54 AM

I hope you guys are getting paid for this because probably 2% of Fans are listening lol.
The trilogy is good, and ill buy it 5 more times with all the negative, inaccurate, unprofessional advice. Go post something on a real critic website because your comments get no love nor attention. Look at the poll 62 percent still want it. Thats just bluray.com users which is probably less the 1% of worldwide bluray consumers. You are really just wasting your breath is what im trying to say.

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04-10-2010, 11:51 PM	#8821
ricwhite Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Utah Blu-ray collection:129	A movie expert on the KSL radio movie show (Utah) said that the Lord of the Rings Blu-ray movies look WORSE than regular DVD. I'm sure that kind of misinformation must affect people's buying habits.

04-10-2010, 11:56 PM	#8824
calvoamp Member Member since:Apr 2010 Location:Montreal Blu-ray collection:12 Trading Score:1	I am just starting to watch the last movie in the trilogy and so far they look a hell of a lot better than my DVD version.

04-11-2010, 12:00 AM	#8827
calvoamp Member Member since:Apr 2010 Location:Montreal Blu-ray collection:12 Trading Score:1	The funny thing that I just noticed is that the special edition discs ( 1 per movie ) are DVD and not Blu ray, any one else care to share on this?

04-11-2010, 12:33 AM	#8831
calvoamp Member Member since:Apr 2010 Location:Montreal Blu-ray collection:12 Trading Score:1	LOL,yeah I guess but we still pay for BD so I think everything should be HD, I could barely care for regular special features on a comedy movie for example but on great looking movies ie LOTR or Avatar I would like to have that option.

04-11-2010, 12:45 AM	#8832
PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	Well, looks to me (like I said) we have another The Fifth Element situation where the HD broadcast was just a sharpened version of what was on the Blu-ray. Scroll to the bottom of the page: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...sharp-mask.htm Look at this and you'll see why a similar effect could explain why Gandalf appears "more detailed"... (I dare someone to say the original, untouched photo is "DNRed to death")

04-11-2010, 01:31 AM	#8836
Hep Power Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:33 Blu-ray collection:660 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:17	I just finished the FOTR. First, I really enjoyed watching these movies again. I found it really hard to focus on being critical of the PQ because the movie is just so engaging. Having said that, it was still obvious to me this movie is a noticeable PQ upgrade over the EE DVDs (on my set-up). It is my suspicion that the softness we are seeing is mostly source based. I would need much more proof of process before I would even suggest that Warner (and PJ) screwed-the-pooch. Of course I won’t commit one way or the other, but that is exactly the point; anyone trying to make absolute statements about the technical processing of this transfer is kidding themselves. I am very happy with my upgrade, and I would do it again after having seen the final product with my own eyes. Even if a marginal PQ upgrade is realistically possible, given the option of having this movie come out as-is now, or not at all until enough time and $ are available to achieve such an upgrade, then I choose to take it now and enjoy the obvious upgrade.

04-11-2010, 01:33 AM	#8837
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	I'll wait for The LOTR Trilogy Blu-ray EE; meanwhile 'Avatar' is here April 22nd, on my Birthday which is Earth Day.

04-11-2010, 01:54 AM	#8840
lDlisturb3d Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Norfolk, VA Criterion Collection: 33 Steelbooks: 28 Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:11 Blu-ray collection:464 DVD collection:12 Blu-ray reviews: 127 Trading Score:4	I hope you guys are getting paid for this because probably 2% of Fans are listening lol. The trilogy is good, and ill buy it 5 more times with all the negative, inaccurate, unprofessional advice. Go post something on a real critic website because your comments get no love nor attention. Look at the poll 62 percent still want it. Thats just bluray.com users which is probably less the 1% of worldwide bluray consumers. You are really just wasting your breath is what im trying to say.

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