1080p Does Matter - Here’s When (Screen Size vs. Viewing Distance vs. Resolution)

[Dave]

I’ve read various articles debating the importance of the 1080p. I want to set the record straight once and for all: if you are serious about properly setting up your viewing room, you will definitely benefit from 1080p (and even 1440p.) Why? Because the 1080p resolution is the first to deliver enough detail to your eyeball when you are seated at the proper distance from the screen. But don’t just take my word for it: read on for the proof.
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http://www.carltonbale.com/blog/2006...p-does-matter/




Blu-ray players are the only players that support 1080p !!!

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Dave

http://www.carltonbale.com/blog/2006...p-does-matter/




Blu-ray players are the only players that support 1080p !!!

Um, the Toshiba xa2/a2 also support 1080p. That's pretty much the whole reason Toshiba is rushing those things out and marking their prices up to try and recoup the losses of subsidizing those beta A1/A1 players they put out.

[dobyblue]

Isn't the XA2 delayed?

[Zvi]

Originally Posted by JTK

Um, the Toshiba xa2/a2 also support 1080p.

For mere 1000$

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Zvi

For mere 1000$

Indeed, and yes it has been delayed until sometime in December or thereabouts.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by JTK

Um, the Toshiba xa2/a2 also support 1080p.

I was under the impression that they support 1080p via conversion through 1080i60 --> 1080p30 using a deinterlacer, similar to the Samsung. Really the only players that support 1080p are the Sony and Pioneer is what I thought as they read and output 1080p24 without touching the stream.

[jason]

videos one thing but what about audio? is there final specs on both pioneer and sony about advanced codecs? ive been to lazy to check...

[AV_Integrated]

It doesn't matter though whether or not the output from HD-DVD or Blu-ray is 1080p or 1080i. What matters is whether or not the display can properly deinterlace 1080p/24 source material from 1080i output so it properly displays at 1080p on a 1080p display.

So many people simply do NOT get this correlation!

Film is 24 frames per second. Split each frame in half so you have 1080/48i then apply 3:2 and output at 1080/60i then send it to a projector.

100% of every single frame is in that video stream!

Now, the projector gets the info and can put every frame 100% of the way back together. If it is a really good projector it will switch to 24/48/72/96hz and perform 3:3 pulldown (etc.) so that you get a perfect 1080p/24 image up on screen.

Does 1080p matter for the display? DARN STRAIGHT! I have a 106" screen in my family room. It looks phenomenal - but if you think I'm not drooling over the Optoma HD81 or the Panasonic AE-1000U you are crazy! $2.00 saved, just $3,998.00 to go!

[phloyd]

Originally Posted by JTK

Um, the Toshiba xa2/a2 also support 1080p.

Only the XA2 I believe - the A2 has less capability output-wise than the A1 (no analogue 5.1).

In any case, an external scaler (or one in a TV) can do the same 1080i to 1080p conversion that most of the BD players do (and I believe the XA2 also).

The Sony and Pioneer would seem to do 1080p at 24 with no interlacing steps in between.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by AV_Integrated

It doesn't matter though whether or not the output from HD-DVD or Blu-ray is 1080p or 1080i. What matters is whether or not the display can properly deinterlace 1080p/24 source material from 1080i output so it properly displays at 1080p on a 1080p display.

So many people simply do NOT get this correlation!

Film is 24 frames per second. Split each frame in half so you have 1080/48i then apply 3:2 and output at 1080/60i then send it to a projector.

100% of every single frame is in that video stream!

Now, the projector gets the info and can put every frame 100% of the way back together. If it is a really good projector it will switch to 24/48/72/96hz and perform 3:3 pulldown (etc.) so that you get a perfect 1080p/24 image up on screen.

Does 1080p matter for the display? DARN STRAIGHT! I have a 106" screen in my family room. It looks phenomenal - but if you think I'm not drooling over the Optoma HD81 or the Panasonic AE-1000U you are crazy! $2.00 saved, just $3,998.00 to go!

I completely agree with what you have said, but (you knew it was coming) most people don't have good deinterlacers in their TVs or they don't own a receiver/deinterlacer, take my TV the XBR range from Sony, it would be much better that the TV does not touch the signal and just displays the source at 48Hz (repeating each frame twice) rather than go through multiple steps and have a chance of it coming out wrong.

On a differnet note, I dont know how the American people have lived with this 3:2 pulldown for their DVDs for so long, it makes for very poor viewing (with repeated frames), the UK/EU system of 50Hz is much easier on the eye, though it will make the film 1/25th shorter.

[ay221]

Originally Posted by AV_Integrated

Does 1080p matter for the display? DARN STRAIGHT! I have a 106" screen in my family room. It looks phenomenal - but if you think I'm not drooling over the Optoma HD81 or the Panasonic AE-1000U you are crazy! $2.00 saved, just $3,998.00 to go!

Going a little off topic here. Any reason you like the AE-1000U over a pearl or 1080p mitsubishi? Thanks.

[Rob Tomlin]

Originally Posted by AV_Integrated

It doesn't matter though whether or not the output from HD-DVD or Blu-ray is 1080p or 1080i. What matters is whether or not the display can properly deinterlace 1080p/24 source material from 1080i output so it properly displays at 1080p on a 1080p display.

So many people simply do NOT get this correlation!

Film is 24 frames per second. Split each frame in half so you have 1080/48i then apply 3:2 and output at 1080/60i then send it to a projector.

100% of every single frame is in that video stream!

Now, the projector gets the info and can put every frame 100% of the way back together. If it is a really good projector it will switch to 24/48/72/96hz and perform 3:3 pulldown (etc.) so that you get a perfect 1080p/24 image up on screen.

Does 1080p matter for the display? DARN STRAIGHT! I have a 106" screen in my family room. It looks phenomenal - but if you think I'm not drooling over the Optoma HD81 or the Panasonic AE-1000U you are crazy! $2.00 saved, just $3,998.00 to go!

Thanks, you saved me from typing the same thing! Well, ok, maybe not exactly the same thing, because I think you did a better job of explaining it that I would have!

Players like the Elite are still desireable though, because sending a 1080p24 source directly to a projector that is capable of accepting that native resolution will probably have a bit of an advantage as you are getting the info pretty much straight from the disc to the display without additional processing.