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Old 05-05-2010, 02:27 PM   #10001
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Knowing Tolkien's background, there's no chance in what you are saying. The same is true about a three-way between the three main female characters.

The books already explained about Dwarvish women, too.



Where did you get that? No he didn't.
I think I read it in wikipedia few weeks ago.
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:35 PM   #10002
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I think I read it in wikipedia few weeks ago.
Wikipedia.


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Old 05-05-2010, 03:26 PM   #10003
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Finished The Two Towers. The last chapter was amazing.

Will soon start Return of the King.
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Old 05-05-2010, 06:57 PM   #10004
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Has anybody listened to the BBC audio adaptation of the Lord of the Rings? I'm currently listening to it now and it's quite good; ironically Ian Holm is the voice of Frodo while we know him as Bilbo in the films. The music is good, as is the acting, and it's truer to the books. The films are still my favorite however
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:49 PM   #10005
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Today I watched Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings.

It was funny. Animation sux, gandalf's beard is actually longer than treebeard's beard, sam is dumb, gimli is only 1 or 2 inch shorter than legolas in height, aragorn looks like native american, boromir wears helmet all the time in the movie.

Only good thing was that it is faithful to the books.

I will still give it 5/10 though.







BTW why was this thread un-sticked?
Remove Avatar from sticky threads too.


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Old 05-06-2010, 12:52 PM   #10006
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Has anybody listened to the BBC audio adaptation of the Lord of the Rings? I'm currently listening to it now and it's quite good; ironically Ian Holm is the voice of Frodo while we know him as Bilbo in the films. The music is good, as is the acting, and it's truer to the books. The films are still my favorite however
I am currently listening to them as well. I'm quite impressed. It feels a lot more Tolkien-esque than the movies. One thing I thought was odd was when the Ents decide to march on Isengard, instead of chanting they sung the words.

Still, I like this adaption better than the movies.

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Old 05-06-2010, 12:58 PM   #10007
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Has anybody listened to the BBC audio adaptation of the Lord of the Rings? I'm currently listening to it now and it's quite good; ironically Ian Holm is the voice of Frodo while we know him as Bilbo in the films. The music is good, as is the acting, and it's truer to the books. The films are still my favorite however
Where did you find these? I had the collection back in the 80's on cassettes.
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BTW why was this thread un-sticked?
A month has passed since it was released. So it's stayed stickied two weeks longer than usual.
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:02 PM   #10009
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Where did you find these? I had the collection back in the 80's on cassettes.
You can find them used on Amazon and also Ebay. I bought the complete CD set for less than $25.00 (including shipping) on Amazon. They are in perfect shape. Here is the link on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553456539

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Old 05-06-2010, 01:34 PM   #10010
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Today I watched Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings.

It was funny. Animation sux, gandalf's beard is actually longer than treebeard's beard, sam is dumb, gimli is only 1 or 2 inch shorter than legolas in height, aragorn looks like native american, boromir wears helmet all the time in the movie.

Only good thing was that it is faithful to the books.
Well, "somewhat" faithful, there were some major disconnects. Agree with your assessment of Aragorn - the only thing he is missing is a feathered headdress, and Sam has almost been reduced to a drooling idiot.
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^Remember, they relied too heavily on rhotoscoping. Actually, you cant even say that. rhotoscoping is adapting, but what they did was downright tracing.

Anyway, I've survived the first month in the long wait for the EEs.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:36 PM   #10012
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Where did you find these? I had the collection back in the 80's on cassettes.
One thing I noticed on my CD set: They made a serious blunder in naming episode 8. On all the packaging and the printing on the CD it's called "The Voice of Sauron". I wondered if it was a mistake. It is. The audio has it right: "The Voice of Saruman".

Another oddity is how they slightly changed the story of Pippin and the palantir. On the CDs, Pippin picks up the palantir and keeps it until he looks into it.

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Old 05-06-2010, 04:20 PM   #10013
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Anyway, I've survived the first month in the long wait for the EEs.
If you are ever feeling tempted, remember that the theatrical cuts will not feed the hunger. They have been stepped on. The EEs are 100% pure. Only they will take you where you need to go.

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Old 05-06-2010, 05:03 PM   #10014
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If you are ever feeling tempted, remember that the theatrical cuts will not feed the hunger. It has been stepped on. The EEs are 100% pure. Only they will take you where you need to go.

I've got to admit that Fellowship is at the top of my Netflix queue. I am deeply curious as to how it looks. But you are right, the Cliff notes will not feed the hunger. The only acceptable stopgap in this long wait is watching the EEs on DVD unconverted. From a great distance away.
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:15 PM   #10015
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Well I was able to enjoy Two Towers last night on my setup. I had two buddies over to watch it. I am glad to say that it was amazing. Fabulous sound and an outstanding picture. ROTK to come on monday, cant wait.
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I heard he(aragorn) killed himself in a ritual so that his son can become king or something like that.
Not... exactly.

This requires a little background. When Numenor was granted to the Men of the West in thanks for their help in the battles of the First Age, they were granted long life, three times that of lesser men (though at the beginning it was considerably longer - over 400 years).

Before the corruption of Numenor began, the Kings were able to give up their own lives as an act of will before they "wither and rail from my high seat unmanned and witless," as Aragorn later put it. This was not at all considered a dark and hopeless act like suicide, but a grace given to them by the Valar (the gods) to leave the world before they became too weary of it and decayed into senility.

When the Numenoreans began to be corrupted by a disguised Sauron, they stopped accepting this grace and began to begrudge the Elves their immortality. They held on to life for as long as possible regardless of their fitness to rule any longer (and once a Numenorean did become "weary" their mind and body could decay within 10 years or so).

This corruption led to a series of events that ended in the drowning of Numenor, and the escape of a small group of the Faithful (those who had always held true to the Valar) to Middle-Earth, led by Elendil and his sons.

So when Aragorn tells Arwen, at the age of 207, that he will accept the grace to die at his will and "give back the gift," it is not suicide, but an act of fealty, a return to the ways of Numenor before the fall. I'm sure he hopes that his heirs will follow, and hold true to that heritage. He tells her: "In sorrow we must go, but not in despair."

So... does he end his own life? Well, yes. But is it suicide, in the way we think of it? No, it really isn't.

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Where did you find these? I had the collection back in the 80's on cassettes.
Amazon.com. I bought them brand new for only 30$ in the online marketplace.
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Old 05-07-2010, 01:50 AM   #10018
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thanks for the info. Whitearrow
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[IMG] http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=18770 [/IMG]

Obviously, inserting an image doesn't always work on this site. In fact it never works when I want it to.
Yes it works. You can't input a referential link (with /?id=..... at the end) but need to put the direct link (right-click on the image > properties > URL: copy-paste it)

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Not... exactly.

This requires a little background. When Numenor was granted to the Men of the West in thanks for their help in the battles of the First Age, they were granted long life, three times that of lesser men (though at the beginning it was considerably longer - over 400 years).

Before the corruption of Numenor began, the Kings were able to give up their own lives as an act of will before they "wither and rail from my high seat unmanned and witless," as Aragorn later put it. This was not at all considered a dark and hopeless act like suicide, but a grace given to them by the Valar (the gods) to leave the world before they became too weary of it and decayed into senility.

When the Numenoreans began to be corrupted by a disguised Sauron, they stopped accepting this grace and began to begrudge the Elves their immortality. They held on to life for as long as possible regardless of their fitness to rule any longer (and once a Numenorean did become "weary" their mind and body could decay within 10 years or so).

This corruption led to a series of events that ended in the drowning of Numenor, and the escape of a small group of the Faithful (those who had always held true to the Valar) to Middle-Earth, led by Elendil and his sons.

So when Aragorn tells Arwen, at the age of 207, that he will accept the grace to die at his will and "give back the gift," it is not suicide, but an act of fealty, a return to the ways of Numenor before the fall. I'm sure he hopes that his heirs will follow, and hold true to that heritage. He tells her: "In sorrow we must go, but not in despair."

So... does he end his own life? Well, yes. But is it suicide, in the way we think of it? No, it really isn't.
Great post whitearrow.....I believe this is covered in The Silmarillion.
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