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Old 05-07-2010, 08:39 PM   #10461
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I like Star Trek Insurrection, I actually like all of the STs more than the 2009 one.
The 2009 ST just seemed like an interesting footnote IMO. If I had to pick a "best," it might be The Wrath of the Khan.
 
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The 2009 ST just seemed like an interesting footnote IMO. If I had to pick a "best," it might be The Wrath of the Khan.
The Wrath of Khan is everything a sci-fi movie should be. Excellent villain, good fight scenes, decent acting, good cinematography.
 
Old 05-07-2010, 08:52 PM   #10463
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Titanic took forever to hit DVD, and James Cameron is still cashing in a big payday from the Avatar home video market (which they'll stretch through 2011 easily). I would expect Titanic no sooner than 2012, and if Titanic3D hits theaters that year, it'll definitely come after.
OR, they could sell a Sapphire Series with limited extras in the next year or so, and then sell the movie again with the "whizzbango 3D version" in or after 2012.

Studios aren't too shy about double dipping, and this is definitely a title that is a high probability candidate for them to milk to death.

The real wild card is Cameron himself...
 
Old 05-07-2010, 09:09 PM   #10464
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The Wrath of Khan is everything a sci-fi movie should be. Excellent villain, good fight scenes, decent acting, good cinematography.
...and compassion, the meaning of friendship, etc. It contained interesting speculation, as well -- on ageing, and the nature of life and death. To me, Sci Fi is best when it is thoughtful. As Isaac Asimov said, "When Aristotle fails, try science fiction." I loved that some of the thought concerning life and death in Wrath of the Khan was conveyed visually and aurally, rather than through dialogue.
 
Old 05-07-2010, 09:33 PM   #10465
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I like Star Trek Insurrection, I actually like all of the STs more than the 2009 one.
When I first saw the 2009 one, I didn't like it but thought it was better than Shatner's Folly (ST5) and most of the TNG films, going from memory. Then when the Blu-ray collections were released, I re-watched all the pre-2009 films and found I liked all of them better than the reboot.
 
Old 05-07-2010, 09:43 PM   #10466
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OR, they could sell a Sapphire Series with limited extras in the next year or so, and then sell the movie again with the "whizzbango 3D version" in or after 2012.

Studios aren't too shy about double dipping, and this is definitely a title that is a high probability candidate for them to milk to death.

The real wild card is Cameron himself...
Exactly. Sell the Sapphire Series next year, Q3 or Q4. Then, a "15th Anniversary 3D Edition" in Q4 2012.

Still, I hope True Lies and The Abyss make it out this year. I believe Cameron is supposed to be working on those now, or soon.
 
Old 05-07-2010, 10:22 PM   #10467
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When I first saw the 2009 one, I didn't like it but thought it was better than Shatner's Folly (ST5) and most of the TNG films, going from memory. Then when the Blu-ray collections were released, I re-watched all the pre-2009 films and found I liked all of them better than the reboot.
Now I know something isn't right when you think ST:V is better.

I suppose Shatner throwing the 3-boobed cat woman over his head into the "pool table" sealed the deal.
 
Old 05-07-2010, 11:39 PM   #10468
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IMHO all of the pre-2009 Trek movies are better than the reboot because they featured the casts we know and love, not poor man's versions of them.
 
Old 05-08-2010, 01:43 AM   #10469
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I watched my disc twice--once with my friend's setup and once with my parents' setup. Annoying sync problem both times from chapter 15 through the rest of the movie.

Not sure about my friend's specs, but it was a Samsung player and a Mitsubishi projector.

My parents' setup:
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old Onkyo receiver (no HDMI, not sure about the model #)
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Video to the TV with HDMI
Optical audio to the receiver, bitstream

Are there any developments on how to remedy this?

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Old 05-08-2010, 01:56 AM   #10470
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I have some running hypothesis, but I don't want to say anything publically about it until I'm sure. They're being peer reviewed over the weekend

Under the best case scenario, end of next weekish, and again, that's best case. Expect weeks, not days, if at all (covering my bases here)
 
Old 05-08-2010, 02:56 AM   #10471
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the wrath of khan is everything a sci-fi movie should be. Excellent villain, good fight scenes, decent acting, good cinematography.
kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 05-08-2010, 03:02 AM   #10472
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On another note, I cancelled my Lost Planet 2 preorder. Its gotten mediocre reviews when I actually had decent hopes for it.

Alan Wake on the otherhand, looks pretty good so far.
 
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IMHO all of the pre-2009 Trek movies are better than the reboot because they featured the casts we know and love, not poor man's versions of them.
Yeah, we should have 70-80 year olds running around, and have dug up DeForest and Doohan! Or better yet, CGI versions!

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kaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
C'mon. H before the A. K-h-a-n. Right there on the box.
 
Old 05-08-2010, 03:36 AM   #10474
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Yeah, we should have 70-80 year olds running around, and have dug up DeForest and Doohan! Or better yet, CGI versions!
Preferring the original cast to the reboot cast does not equate to a belief that the original cast should be making more product.
 
Old 05-08-2010, 04:12 AM   #10475
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Yeah, we should have 70-80 year olds running around, and have dug up DeForest and Doohan! Or better yet, CGI versions!
You're reaching pretty far to get your on this one. When did I ever say I thought there should be new movies with the previous cast(s)?
 
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You're reaching pretty far to get your on this one. When did I ever say I thought there should be new movies with the previous cast(s)?
Your post finds fault with the new one for not being them.

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Old 05-08-2010, 04:46 AM   #10477
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Your post finds fault with the new one for not being them.
Indeed it does. But it didn't suggest that a viable alternative would have been to feature the TOS or TNG cast(s). I only meant to say that I personally don't have the same feelings for the new cast as I do for their predecessors. That's not to say that the franchise shouldn't continue with new actors, only that I am unlikely to favor any new efforts over Parts 1-10.
 
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Indeed it does. But it didn't suggest that a viable alternative would have been to feature the TOS or TNG cast(s). I only meant to say that I personally don't have the same feelings for the new cast as I do for their predecessors. That's not to say that the franchise shouldn't continue with new actors, only that I am unlikely to favor any new efforts over Parts 1-10.
Well, a LOT of people did not like TMP or Generations. ST '09 was far better than either of those films, both in story, critical acclaim, and box office performance.

You also had 79 & 178 hours with each cast respectively on television before their debut films.
 
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Now I know something isn't right when you think ST:V is better.
I didn't say it was a good film, I said it was better than the reboot film. An important distinction.

Shatner's Folly got the Kirk/Spock/McCoy relationship right, and even though it went so awry, it was still trying to tackle a big idea like religion. It was bad Star Trek, but it was still Star Trek.

Abrams' Folly felt like Michael Bay or Roland Emmerich had been turned loose on Gene Roddenberry's creation. Considering Abrams' writers wrote Bay's Transformers films and Abrams himself co-wrote a Bay film, that's not a surprise.
 
Old 05-08-2010, 06:32 AM   #10480
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Well, a LOT of people did not like TMP or Generations. ST '09 was far better than either of those films, both in story, critical acclaim, and box office performance.
It's all subjective. People bring different expectations and experiences with them when they watch a film, whether they're a professional critic or not.

I've seen over 3,000 films in my life, and even written reviews on an amateur basis, and haven't found critical opinion to be a reliable indicator that I'll like a film, and I'm sure that's true for everyone.

Box office performance? Michael Bay and Roland Emmerich make films that often have huge box office results.
 
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