Predator (1987) (Ultimate Hunter Edition) - Page 29 - Blu-ray Forum

bleauboy · 06-03-2010, 10:38 PM

I was going to wait till this comes out first before I buy. I have the first blu ray of Predator already, and I thought it looked good. I am patient enough to wait for a review on this new one. If it is better in PQ then I will run out and pick this up, or order through Amazon. I usually get something like, movies and have them delivered. I get them on the second day, and I get free shipping from ordering 2 blu's at a time. If Fox ****'s this up I'll be pissed, but at least I still got the original in blu. I really want the features and supplements that this has, but if PQ is bad or at least somewhat negative, then I will try and pass.

Geoff D · 06-03-2010, 11:25 PM

If - and I stress IF - this new release does turn out to be a DNR nightmare then we can't say we didn't see it coming. Still, I'm not gonna start bleating about Fox being idiots because they've done a terrific job with most of their catalogue stuff, and I'm certain this is just a blip, done in response to the complaints of the average Joe who says that Predator looks like crap on the current BD.

Me, I think it looks lovely. I wonder if Fox will keep the two SKU's going; one for the grain lovers, one for the grain haters. Everyone's a winner!

DetroitSportsFan · 06-04-2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

I wonder if Fox will keep the two SKU's going; one for the grain lovers, one for the grain haters. Everyone's a winner!

Not grain lovers who want extras.

danman227460 · 06-04-2010, 01:06 AM

Then I would say double dip and sell the movie to grain haters.

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Not grain lovers who want extras.

ScuseMe · 06-04-2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ridergroov1

Not trying to be mean but, why do you pre order this far in advance anyway? I don't understand the advantages. Just curious.

The only reason I pre-order (and I don't do it often) is to show my support for a title's release in some way. Normally I just wait until the reviews are out to determine whether I want to buy it or not. But since this edition has been pegged as an all-new digital restoration, I put my pre-order in to show the studio that I support the restoration and its efforts in general.

Now, if it turns out that they screwed the pooch and DNR'd it to death, calling that abomination "an all-new digital restoration", I will cancel my pre-order and buy the original release.

I don't know how else to make a stand about these things. I would think that studios would care about pre-orders to incite buzz about a new release. A abundance of cancelled pre-orders may make a statement to the studios, or it may not. My hope is that it would.

AxlVanHagar · 06-04-2010, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

If - and I stress IF - this new release does turn out to be a DNR nightmare then we can't say we didn't see it coming. Still, I'm not gonna start bleating about Fox being idiots because they've done a terrific job with most of their catalogue stuff, and I'm certain this is just a blip, done in response to the complaints of the average Joe who says that Predator looks like crap on the current BD.

Me, I think it looks lovely. I wonder if Fox will keep the two SKU's going; one for the grain lovers, one for the grain haters. Everyone's a winner!

Well said. I was going to say something similair but you nailed it. IF they've DNR'd the new release all to hell I'll stick with copy I already have which I'm already very happy with, just wanted the extra features. I'll live qwithout them if I need to.

I had doubts on how much better it could look due to the nature it was shot and McTiernan's gritty style. A gritty grainy image was pretty much his trademark back then lol

RedIsNotBlue · 06-04-2010, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dvdvision

This has nothing to do with the source -- if true they lied about a new transfert being made. If a new transfert was actually made, this movie would look sweet.

What??? New transfer doesn't equal automatically better.

Daredevil666 · 06-04-2010, 08:00 AM

Dataspirit HD scanning as improved over the years, especially at higher resolutions (4K to 8K).

I know Predator as a distinct grainy look because of many post production tweaks -- I would just be happy that a new transfert encoded in something else than mpeg2 accurately reproduce the look.

If the new encode is as described above, many will stick to the single disc, single layer, mpeg2 encoded release because it will remain the best representation of the movie, until a new scan comes along that is.

42041 · 06-04-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RedIsNotBlue

What??? New transfer doesn't equal automatically better.

A higher resolution scan from a higher quality source certainly would.
Sounds like that isn't what we got here

Stu123 · 06-04-2010, 08:41 AM

Yeah i reckon they've scrubbed the grain out with an eraser hopefully not tipex

RedIsNotBlue · 06-04-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 42041

A higher resolution scan from a higher quality source certainly would.
Sounds like that isn't what we got here

From what I have heard the words they used were "Digital remastering" which to me sounds like DNR. I never read anything about a higher resolution scan from a higher quality source I think that is what people were just hoping for.

Rusty100 · 06-04-2010, 09:16 AM

If this is the case, I'm so disappointed. I was gonna pick this up.

Geoff D · 06-04-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Not grain lovers who want extras.

Ah - but that's why I've kept the 2-disc DVD to go with my Jap copy of the current Blu-ray. And it doesn't appear that we're missing out on any new extras aside from the usual marketing bollocks for the new movie, so the existing DVD + Blu-ray = WIN in my book.

KarmaNL · 06-04-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

the existing DVD + Blu-ray = WIN in my book.

hear hear!

cancelled my pre-order, will be awaiting reviews first before purchasing.

Had high hopes, we'll see what happens.

HD Goofnut · 06-04-2010, 01:19 PM

I kept disc 2 of the 2 disc dvd set from a few years ago and threw it with the MPEG-2 BD in a double case so that I'd have all of the supplemental material. Unless they restored the film for this new BD and refrained from using DNR I will be sticking with my MPEG-2 version.

DetroitSportsFan · 06-04-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by danman227460

Then I would say double dip and sell the movie to grain haters.

Aren't the movie and extras on the same disc?

danman227460 · 06-04-2010, 01:45 PM

That would be a problem lol. I thought it was a two disc set. I was mistaken.

So I'll go with getting the DVD extras and the original version. I wonder how bad it will be. Right now Predator is pretty cheap.

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Aren't the movie and extras on the same disc?

drtre81 · 06-04-2010, 05:39 PM

Hope the DNR thing isn't true. If so I hope it still manages to look a little better like T2 skynet ed. over the 2006 u.s. version.

If not...

mredman · 06-04-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by drtre81

Hope the DNR thing isn't true. If so I hope it still manages to look a little better like T2 skynet ed. over the 2006 u.s. version.

If not...

yeah i actually think the original BD was good. it was the way it always should look like very gritty and dirty

the blob · 06-04-2010, 10:34 PM

I liked the look of the original and if it's been scrubbed then it's a definite no go for the new one. I also still have the dvd for the extras so it's looking at quite a bargain for the $5 I paid for the BD at Target with the infamous $5 coupon before Christmas.

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06-03-2010, 10:38 PM	#561
bleauboy Member Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Michigan USA Blu-ray collection:31 Blu-ray reviews:1	I was going to wait till this comes out first before I buy. I have the first blu ray of Predator already, and I thought it looked good. I am patient enough to wait for a review on this new one. If it is better in PQ then I will run out and pick this up, or order through Amazon. I usually get something like, movies and have them delivered. I get them on the second day, and I get free shipping from ordering 2 blu's at a time. If Fox ****'s this up I'll be pissed, but at least I still got the original in blu. I really want the features and supplements that this has, but if PQ is bad or at least somewhat negative, then I will try and pass.

06-03-2010, 11:25 PM	#562
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1347 Blu-ray collection:2524 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	If - and I stress IF - this new release does turn out to be a DNR nightmare then we can't say we didn't see it coming. Still, I'm not gonna start bleating about Fox being idiots because they've done a terrific job with most of their catalogue stuff, and I'm certain this is just a blip, done in response to the complaints of the average Joe who says that Predator looks like crap on the current BD. Me, I think it looks lovely. I wonder if Fox will keep the two SKU's going; one for the grain lovers, one for the grain haters. Everyone's a winner!

06-04-2010, 08:00 AM	#568
Daredevil666 Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Future Earth Blu-ray reviews:1	Dataspirit HD scanning as improved over the years, especially at higher resolutions (4K to 8K). I know Predator as a distinct grainy look because of many post production tweaks -- I would just be happy that a new transfert encoded in something else than mpeg2 accurately reproduce the look. If the new encode is as described above, many will stick to the single disc, single layer, mpeg2 encoded release because it will remain the best representation of the movie, until a new scan comes along that is.

06-04-2010, 08:41 AM	#570
Stu123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Hadley's Hope on LV-426 4K collection:260 Blu-ray collection:558 DVD collection:392 Trading Score:9	Yeah i reckon they've scrubbed the grain out with an eraser hopefully not tipex

06-04-2010, 09:16 AM	#572
Rusty100 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	If this is the case, I'm so disappointed. I was gonna pick this up.

06-04-2010, 01:19 PM	#575
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2373 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1091 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	I kept disc 2 of the 2 disc dvd set from a few years ago and threw it with the MPEG-2 BD in a double case so that I'd have all of the supplemental material. Unless they restored the film for this new BD and refrained from using DNR I will be sticking with my MPEG-2 version.

06-04-2010, 05:39 PM	#578
drtre81 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:110	Hope the DNR thing isn't true. If so I hope it still manages to look a little better like T2 skynet ed. over the 2006 u.s. version. If not...

06-04-2010, 10:34 PM	#580
the blob Power Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:1	I liked the look of the original and if it's been scrubbed then it's a definite no go for the new one. I also still have the dvd for the extras so it's looking at quite a bargain for the $5 I paid for the BD at Target with the infamous $5 coupon before Christmas.

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