81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[bhampton]

I haven't checked up on my usual HD DUD hangouts but I know that the DUD-ers are already stating this reflects the in-ability to estimates Wal-Mart sales by Neilsen.

Not that it matters,.. HD DUD is toast.

Yahoo!!!!!

-Brian

[Go Blu]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I haven't checked up on my usual HD DUD hangouts but I know that the DUD-ers are already stating this reflects the in-ability to estimates Wal-Mart sales by Neilsen

Funny they had no problems adding them in up for the fake Transformers numbers.

[Rike255]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I haven't checked up on my usual HD DUD hangouts but I know that the DUD-ers are already stating this reflects the in-ability to estimates Wal-Mart sales by Neilsen.

Not that it matters,.. HD DUD is toast.

Yahoo!!!!!

-Brian

Even if that were true, it doesn't give Blu-Ray an advantage. If Nielsen sucks at guessing the Blu-Ray numbers sold at Walmart, then they suck at guessing the HD DVD numbers as well. It's a moot point that gives them no ground.

[desmond]

next week's number will be better (pixar titles are selling well).

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I haven't checked up on my usual HD DUD hangouts but I know that the DUD-ers are already stating this reflects the in-ability to estimates Wal-Mart sales by Neilsen.

Not that it matters,.. HD DUD is toast.

Yahoo!!!!!

-Brian

If Walmart is all that different from Neilson's, why is the shelf space split in Blu-Ray/HD-DVD the same in the store as the split in the Neilson's? Must be because Walmart feels bad for Blu-Ray right?

Get an HD-DVDer to give a real answer to that question.

[badboi]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I haven't checked up on my usual HD DUD hangouts but I know that the DUD-ers are already stating this reflects the in-ability to estimates Wal-Mart sales by Neilsen.

Not that it matters,.. HD DUD is toast.

Yahoo!!!!!

-Brian

They are doing some funky new dud-math that equates to SM in all formats only selling 130k copies. Then factor in the Walmart not reporting, the free HD DVDs that should have been listed as a sale, divided by Rosie O'Donnells bra size, multiplied by the average age of the goat on a farm in Idaho, and then they come up with the figures they think are right. And Michael Mullis now has his tits in a twist over the numbers and how unfair it is that Walmart doesn't report the figures and yada yada yada.

[cooper1010]

Originally Posted by Rike255

The only numbers I really care about are the Warner sales because they acurately portray the advantage to Blu-Ray. This week was fantastic as every Warner title outsold it's HD DVD counterpart by a large margin (except for 2001 Space Odyssey which basically sold even).

Keep it up guys, the key is to support Warner as we have the biggest chance of swaying them.

this portrayal is diminished b/c blu-ray owners clearly spent some money on sm:3 and the box set. if spider-man wasn't out this week, the numbers would be even more of a discrepency.

[mystiksuicide]

The only week i see week is Nov 27. Personally ill be buying some older titles I been wanting but haven't had a chance cause of all the great new releases. But there is no doubt Nov 27 numbers are going to be closer.

[bhampton]

What did I tell ya,...

Quote by Fud-Master General Lee

"So how much credence can we put in the Nielsens now that Wal-mart has entered the war . . . and seems to be backing HD DVD?"

Can't tell you what I think of that fellas ability to look away from the facts.

It's the same old story folks,

Neilsen numbers still don't favor HD DUD = Can't put faith in those numbers
Blu Ray software still outselling HD DUD = WB only cares about Stand Alone player sales
50GB >30 = Well, yeah but 30 was the right amount anyway until we get 51 at least
1080p>1080i = We have many players that don't support 1080p so actually 1080p=1080i

And it just goes on,.. if it's favor-able to Blu Ray like most things are they will try to downplay it. It's the sad state of affairs for those still trying to cling to the lifeboats of the sinking ship called HD DUD.


-Brian

[Ispoke]

Originally Posted by bhampton

.... DUD-ers are already stating this reflects the in-ability to estimates Wal-Mart sales by Neilsen....

Otherwise known a desperation

[SpikesBluBlooded]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I haven't checked up on my usual HD DUD hangouts but I know that the DUD-ers are already stating this reflects the in-ability to estimates Wal-Mart sales by Neilsen.

Not that it matters,.. HD DUD is toast.

Yahoo!!!!!

-Brian

awww, poor babies. Did thewre wittle firwe sale not count towards the numbers?

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

The only week i see week is Nov 27. Personally ill be buying some older titles I been wanting but haven't had a chance cause of all the great new releases. But there is no doubt Nov 27 numbers are going to be closer.

Residuals from Die Hard will cause that week to be an easy victory.

Failing, of course, some news that Toshiba has decided to personally send a 100$ check to every HD-DVD supporter to buy them for that week.

[oldmike]

whats realy funny is this week there the sale at BB for a lot of HD-DVDs and some Blu-ray
if that dose not get them over 25% there done after all this is RIGHT after selling cheep players
if HD-DVD priced 2 times that of DVD dont win the bargen hunters then there stunt failed

[badboi]

What's coming out on the 27th for the Dudsters?

[pscoop]

Wow. Way to get ground back BD. Looks like the Transformer run has slowed down quite a bit. Next weeks numbers will be huge for BD with the Pixar titles knocking up the numbers.

[mystiksuicide]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Residuals from Die Hard will cause that week to be an easy victory.

Failing, of course, some news that Toshiba has decided to personally send a 100$ check to every HD-DVD supporter to buy them for that week.

That be awesome if Toshiba sent out a $100 I could use it to my my Blu disk. lol

[Living Near Shamu]

Just because its cheap, its supposed to perform like the rest, and they want to mass-introduce it with lower quality components doesn't mean its going to work, Toshiba. Just look at Daewoo

[Ispoke]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Failing, of course, some news that Toshiba has decided to personally send a 100$ check to every HD-DVD supporter to buy them for that week.

LoL ...... Now don't go giving them idea's.

[hrerikl]

Originally Posted by Rike255

The only numbers I really care about are the Warner sales because they acurately portray the advantage to Blu-Ray. This week was fantastic as every Warner title outsold it's HD DVD counterpart by a large margin (except for 2001 Space Odyssey which basically sold even).

Keep it up guys, the key is to support Warner as we have the biggest chance of swaying them.

Yep
Using 130,000 for SM We get:

300
Blue:8528
Red:5024

62-38%

2001 Space Odessy

5044 Blue
4913 Red

50.6 -49.4%

License to Wed
5720 -Blue Ray
3315 - Red

63.3 - 36.7%

[Steverhcp02]

Originally Posted by bhampton

What did I tell ya,...

Quote by Fud-Master General Lee

"So how much credence can we put in the Nielsens now that Wal-mart has entered the war . . . and seems to be backing HD DVD?"

Can't tell you what I think of that fellas ability to look away from the facts.

It's the same old story folks,

Neilsen numbers still don't favor HD DUD = Can't put faith in those numbers
Blu Ray software still outselling HD DUD = WB only cares about Stand Alone player sales
50GB >30 = Well, yeah but 30 was the right amount anyway until we get 51 at least
1080p>1080i = We have many players that don't support 1080p so actually 1080p=1080i

And it just goes on,.. if it's favor-able to Blu Ray like most things are they will try to downplay it. It's the sad state of affairs for those still trying to cling to the lifeboats of the sinking ship called HD DUD.


-Brian

lol what a joke that guy is. Yeah, wal-mart "backing" HD DVD by selling off their old stock and stocking more BD in their stores. Please.

And BTW, i saw that walmart commercial again....but it wasnt the same...same lady, same footage of her husband and kids, only for a sony flat panel HD TV. That HD DVD commercial had nothing to do with Wal-Mart backing the format, it was simply a generic commercial shot with muliple products to sell it that weekend.

That guy is out of touch, imo.