Predator (1987) (Ultimate Hunter Edition) - Page 66 - Blu-ray Forum

drtre81 · 06-18-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SpotOn

The method you just described would in no way, shape or form create the waxiness we have seen on the screen shots (and no, it is not just limited to the one shot of Arnold and his red shirt). The only explanation for the waxy, deep 'unnatural-looking pores' effect we have here is DNR.

Sure, many posters here actually like DNR, but should not mistake it as a "better" image, only different.

Well of course they added DNR that's obvious. I was trying to explain why people may have thought because of the increased clarity, that this was a new scan .

I think it's the same just using avc, less compression, DNR, and artificial sharpening.

SpotOn · 06-18-2010, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by drtre81

Well of course they added DNR that's obvious. I was trying to explain why people may have thought because of the increased clarity, that this was a new scan .

I think it's the same just using avc, less compression, DNR, and artificial sharpening.

Then you should have actually said all of that

drtre81 · 06-18-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SpotOn

Then you should have actually said all of that

Thought it was pretty obvious. Guess not.

Nick666 · 06-19-2010, 03:19 AM

The waxy Arnold is just one scene that lasts like 2 seconds, in the immediatelly following scenes when he's talking to that old general and to Dillon, there's no more waxy Arnold.

drtre81 · 06-19-2010, 03:45 AM

Can you guys take pics of the case and disc art please?

Spanbauer · 06-19-2010, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drtre81

Well of course they added DNR that's obvious. I was trying to explain why people may have thought because of the increased clarity, that this was a new scan .

I think it's the same just using avc, less compression, DNR, and artificial sharpening.

Some of the comparison frames between the new and old show slight reframing; it would have to be a new scan of the film for that to occur, no?

PeterTHX · 06-19-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spanbauer

Some of the comparison frames between the new and old show slight reframing; it would have to be a new scan of the film for that to occur, no?

It *is* a new transfer.

Insiders have already confirmed that.

Inspector Toschi · 06-19-2010, 08:48 PM

Some new screenshots courtesy of dm8000 from AVS:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/930...shot001442.png
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/448...shot011712.png
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/620...shot011808.png

I hate to say it, but this release is looking worse and worse. I'm trying to be optimistic but that last shot makes the water look like gelatin. Not to mention major smearing in all of them.

Mobe1969 · 06-19-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspector Toschi

Some new screenshots courtesy of dm8000 from AVS:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/930...shot001442.png
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/448...shot011712.png
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/620...shot011808.png

I hate to say it, but this release is looking worse and worse. I'm trying to be optimistic but that last shot makes the water look like gelatin. Not to mention major smearing in all of them.

Looks like he is swimming in KY jelly

stadanko · 06-19-2010, 10:03 PM

Last last capture may just be the worst thing I have ever seen. The waterfall actually looks like some is dumping salt in the water.

Q? · 06-19-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stadanko

Last last capture may just be the worst thing I have ever seen. The waterfall actually looks like some is dumping salt in the water.

I disagree, it looks like a fricking painting now!

DetroitSportsFan · 06-19-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Q!

I disagree, it looks like a fricking painting now!

[Show spoiler]

Q? · 06-19-2010, 10:26 PM

PeterTHX · 06-19-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stadanko

Last last capture may just be the worst thing I have ever seen. The waterfall actually looks like some is dumping salt in the water.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Q!

I disagree, it looks like a fricking painting now!

...and how does it look in motion?

Commenting on 3rd party screen shots without seeing it for yourself is ridiculous.

ScuseMe · 06-19-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

[Show spoiler]

Don't diss my man Bob! He kept me out of therapy for many a year

drtre81 · 06-20-2010, 03:20 AM

lol why even screen cap this?

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/448...shot011712.png

That part is insanely blurry on ALL versions of Predator.

Nick666 · 06-20-2010, 03:54 AM

Wow I just thought of something really cool. Lets cover all those pictures with shyt loads of noise and grain and it will look really cool.

Oh wait, it will look like the old release .

drtre81 · 06-20-2010, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick666

Wow I just thought of something really cool. Lets cover all those pictures with shyt loads of noise and grain and it will look really cool.

Oh wait, it will look like the old release .

I love how people keep PURPOSELY picking bad shots knowing full we'll those shots look just as bad on every version that's ever been available. It's like people are going out of their way to bash this release.

42041 · 06-20-2010, 05:49 AM

I had a chance to watch the first 30 minutes or so of the new disc yesterday, and I don't know why people say that waxy Arnold cap is the only shot like that in the movie... it's not even the worst shot in that scene. Where there wasn't a lot of grain in the original, it looks okay, and if all you want from life is a glossy version of Predator, I suppose you should pick this up

That's something I've never had any particular desire for, so I'll wait for a proper version before spending any more money on this movie, whether it be on this format or another... though some movies just seem to be eternally confined to trashy bargain-bin home video.

PeterTHX · 06-20-2010, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 42041

I had a chance to watch the first 30 minutes or so of the new disc yesterday, and I don't know why people say that waxy Arnold cap is the only shot like that in the movie... it's not even the worst shot in that scene. Where there wasn't a lot of grain in the original, it looks okay, and if all you want from life is a glossy version of Predator, I suppose you should pick this up

That's something I've never had any particular desire for, so I'll wait for a proper version before spending any more money on this movie, whether it be on this format or another... though some movies just seem to be eternally confined to trashy bargain-bin home video.

Well, it isn't designed to be illegally downloaded and watched on a computer monitor.

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06-20-2010, 03:54 AM	#1317
Nick666 Active Member Member since:Jun 2010	Wow I just thought of something really cool. Lets cover all those pictures with shyt loads of noise and grain and it will look really cool. Oh wait, it will look like the old release . Last edited by Nick666; 06-20-2010 at 04:06 AM.

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06-19-2010, 03:19 AM	#1304
Nick666 Active Member Member since:Jun 2010	The waxy Arnold is just one scene that lasts like 2 seconds, in the immediatelly following scenes when he's talking to that old general and to Dillon, there's no more waxy Arnold.

06-19-2010, 03:45 AM	#1305
drtre81 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:110	Can you guys take pics of the case and disc art please?

06-19-2010, 08:48 PM	#1308
Inspector Toschi Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 4K collection:49 Blu-ray collection:493	Some new screenshots courtesy of dm8000 from AVS: http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/930...shot001442.png http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/448...shot011712.png http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/620...shot011808.png I hate to say it, but this release is looking worse and worse. I'm trying to be optimistic but that last shot makes the water look like gelatin. Not to mention major smearing in all of them.

06-19-2010, 10:03 PM	#1310
stadanko Special Member Member since:Dec 2009 Location:IL. 4K collection:208 Blu-ray collection:2264 Trading Score:144	Last last capture may just be the worst thing I have ever seen. The waterfall actually looks like some is dumping salt in the water.

06-19-2010, 10:26 PM	#1313
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06-20-2010, 03:20 AM	#1316
drtre81 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:110	lol why even screen cap this? http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/448...shot011712.png That part is insanely blurry on ALL versions of Predator.

06-20-2010, 05:49 AM	#1319
42041 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2008	I had a chance to watch the first 30 minutes or so of the new disc yesterday, and I don't know why people say that waxy Arnold cap is the only shot like that in the movie... it's not even the worst shot in that scene. Where there wasn't a lot of grain in the original, it looks okay, and if all you want from life is a glossy version of Predator, I suppose you should pick this up That's something I've never had any particular desire for, so I'll wait for a proper version before spending any more money on this movie, whether it be on this format or another... though some movies just seem to be eternally confined to trashy bargain-bin home video.

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