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Old 06-24-2010, 03:52 AM   #1
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You need to set your system to stereo if you're using stereo speakers. You're missing the center channel and that's why you can't hear anything
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Old 06-24-2010, 01:27 PM   #2
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You need to set your system to stereo if you're using stereo speakers. You're missing the center channel and that's why you can't hear anything
Thanks, Jeff. A lot of posters here are writing incomplete or erroneous info. By setting your player to output stereo, it should downmix the lossless 5.1 track. Info from all the channels will be retained, but mixed down to 2 channels.

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or just choose the 2.0 track
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or just choose the 2.0 track
The two tracks differ in content, not just channels - the lossy track is the original broadcast mono, and the 7.1 lossless track is the remastered, remixed audio. When choosing between the two tracks, viewers should choose based on the content, not the channels. If your equipment is set up properly, whatever track you choose will be correctly mixed for the number of speakers you actually have and you will not miss any audio - as occurs for ALL Blu-rays. In fact, most BDs ONLY have 5.1 or 7.1 audio, so this would be a big problem if equipment was not designed to deal with this exact scenario.
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i know... but if you have 2.0 u might as well just listen to the original mono mix. no point in 7.1->2.0 downmix.

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The two tracks differ in content, not just channels - the lossy track is the original broadcast mono, and the 7.1 lossless track is the remastered, remixed audio. When choosing between the two tracks, viewers should choose based on the content, not the channels. If your equipment is set up properly, whatever track you choose will be correctly mixed for the number of speakers you actually have and you will not miss any audio - as occurs for ALL Blu-rays. In fact, most BDs ONLY have 5.1 or 7.1 audio, so this would be a big problem if equipment was not designed to deal with this exact scenario.
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:09 PM   #6
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Thanks, Jeff. A lot of posters here are writing incomplete or erroneous info. By setting your player to output stereo, it should downmix the lossless 5.1 track. Info from all the channels will be retained, but mixed down to 2 channels.

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Yeah, that's what I'm saying...on my Oppo, you can set the unit to down-mix any track to whatever speaker set-up you have. I don't have 7.1, but I do have 5.1, so I just set it to down-mix to 5.1 and it "squeezes" those extra channels into the two surrounds.

But in anycase, I can't believe people who have upgraded to BD are still just using TV speakers as their sound source. Hell, when I upgraded to DVD back in '01, I made sure to have a dedicated 5.1 system. It was severely under-powered and LFE was severely lacking (2 built-in 40W subs into the FL/FR channels), and it couldn't even decode DTS, but I got a 720W system with a dedicated 120W sub that sits on the floor.

And the reason why I didn't get a then, 6.1 set-up, (7.1 mixes and receivers for that matter, weren't even around then) because I had no where to put that 6th speaker. My surround speakers straddle a window and that 6th speaker would have have to gone where the window is.
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Old 06-24-2010, 05:20 PM   #7
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But in anycase, I can't believe people who have upgraded to BD are still just using TV speakers as their sound source. Hell, when I upgraded to DVD back in '01, I made sure to have a dedicated 5.1 system. It was severely under-powered and LFE was severely lacking (2 built-in 40W subs into the FL/FR channels), and it couldn't even decode DTS, but I got a 720W system with a dedicated 120W sub that sits on the floor.
It depends on the situation. Our main LR system has a fairly nice surround setup (Marantz AVR, KEF speakers), but I have a second setup in a tiny area in the basement. This is my escape cave when the wife and daughter have taken over the LR to watch Biggest Loser or something similar. In the basement, I just have room for a 32" TV, FiOS box, and blu player.

I first tried setting the blu to downmix to a DD track, but realized that it downmixes to stereo just fine w/ the lossless track instead, and sounds better, too.

Doug

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