Predator (1987) (Ultimate Hunter Edition) - Page 80 - Blu-ray Forum

meehan · 06-26-2010, 04:20 PM

Agreed. Studios really need to start pulling their fingers out with regard to catalogue titles.

I'd rather see fewer properly transferred titles than a lot of bad ones and if they're not going to put forth the effort I'd rather they didn't bother at all

dallywhitty · 06-26-2010, 04:25 PM

I don't own Predator on any medium, but when I eventually buy it, it'll be the Predator 1 & 2 Blu-ray Double Pack. I'll be avoiding the Ultimate Edition like the plague.

ScuseMe · 06-26-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by meehan

Agreed. Studios really to start pulling their fingers out with regard to catalogue titles.

I'd rather see fewer properly transferred titles than a lot of bad ones and if they're not going to put forth the effort I'd rather they didn't bother at all

And that's why sites like Blu-ray.com are more important today than ever. It used to be that these sites would just announce a BR release, and everyone would "oooh" and "aaah" that "XXX" is now on BR. But nowadays, you need to do your homework to decide if you'll support a lot of the studio's shovelshit they are putting out to appease the video game heads, i.e. "if the BR don't look like the bestest videogame out there then it's shit".

meehan · 06-26-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Maggot

More and more, I finding that what friends and strangers have been saying all along. Blu-ray doesn't look much better than DVD. And when you pop in a DVD and upconvert, it becomes more and more apperent. I'm not saying Blu-ray isn't capable. Hardly, I have great Blu-ray transfers, but far too many movies are being put out in a sub-par state.

It's not all that bad. The problem is that of late we've had a few very poor transfers of catalogue titles.

There has been sterling work done by some but Universal have dropped the ball on some big titles and now 20th Century Fox have shot one out of the turd cannon. I just hope it doesn't affect the likes of Alien.

meehan · 06-26-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scuseme

and that's why sites like blu-ray.com are more important today than ever.

+1

YodasFootPowder · 06-26-2010, 04:45 PM

Although I want my Blu-ray releases to all be 5/5 for PQ. All of the Blu-rays in my collection look far superior to their DVD counterpart. Saying that upconverting any DVD release makes the movie look comparable to the Blu-ray version is ridiculous, in my opinion. All of my Blu-rays look way better than the DVD version, bad transfer or not. Upconverting a DVD is just not even close to a Blu-ray, no matter how bad the Blu-ray transfer is. There may be one or two Blu-ray releases out there that are so horrible, that it's close. But, that's about it.

BMM · 06-26-2010, 04:47 PM

Anyone who thinks Blu-Ray doesn't look much better than DVD either needs a better TV or their eyes checked.

markbr · 06-26-2010, 04:57 PM

I just had a despatch email from zavvi.com for Predator ultimate hunter edition. Should have it for mon or tue. I will post pictures, mine is the UK release, I'm assuming it will be the same disc as the US ??? I have the original blu-ray release of this film. I wonder if they have remastered the Audio as well.

DetroitSportsFan · 06-26-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by markbr

I just had a despatch email from zavvi.com for Predator ultimate hunter edition. Should have it for mon or tue. I will post pictures, mine is the UK release, I'm assuming it will be the same disc as the US ??? I have the original blu-ray release of this film. I wonder if they have remastered the Audio as well.

The discs worldwide will be the same. The audio is the same as the first release.

drtre81 · 06-26-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by QuasidodoJr

Here's a close-up pic of Carl Weathers that Blu-News.com posted over at HDD:

http://twitpic.com/201f30/full

AND that's what a wax figure looks like, Ladies and Gentlemen.

which is from the scene as the arnold pic posted 1000 times.

sharkcohen · 06-26-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by drtre81

which is from the scene as the arnold pic posted 1000 times.

Oh ok, so now it's not just the one shot, but the one scene.

drtre81 · 06-26-2010, 05:43 PM

Holy crap...

old

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/w...datorold33.jpg

new

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/w...datornew33.jpg

what's that about losing detail?

drtre81 · 06-26-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkcohen

Oh ok, so now it's not just the one shot, but the one scene.

I've said that whole scene had bad pq ON ALL VERSIONS at least 4 times in this thread already.

Mike Z · 06-26-2010, 05:46 PM

I don't own Predator on blu-ray yet and just skimming through the pages of this thread it seems to me that the new Hunter Edition is getting bashed. Should I pick this one up or not?

sharkcohen · 06-26-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by drtre81

Holy crap...

old

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/w...datorold33.jpg

new

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/w...datornew33.jpg

what's that about losing detail?

Definitely some black crush in the old release in this screenshot, I need to go back to my disc to see if it's actually like this or an issue with the capture.

HeavyHitter · 06-26-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by drtre81

which is from the scene as the arnold pic posted 1000 times.

I don't see anything wrong with that close up Carl Weather shot. I see fine, small, natural tight film grain in the background of the image. Yes, the image is a bit hazy and soft but clearly from how it was filmed.

dallywhitty · 06-26-2010, 05:52 PM

I'm not seeing increased detail in that second screenshot so much as much increased brightness, which is obviously going to reveal more.

DetroitSportsFan · 06-26-2010, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dallywhitty

I'm not seeing increased detail in that second screenshot so much as much increased brightness, which is obviously going to reveal more.

Agreed, it's just brighter.

meehan · 06-26-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I don't see anything wrong with that close up Carl Weather shot. I see fine, small, natural tight film grain in the background of the image. Yes, the image is a bit hazy and soft but clearly from how it was filmed.

Seriously? I Mean, seriously?

His moustache looks like it's a blurred charcoal effect from Photoshop!

If you think this looks good then you need...

drtre81 · 06-26-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dallywhitty

I'm not seeing increased detail in that second screenshot so much as much increased brightness, which is obviously going to reveal more.

It's both. IMO.

They did a little more than just adjust the lighting.

View Poll Results: Which Blu-ray edition of Predator has the better picture quality?
2008 barebones edition	874	54.15%
2010 Ultimate Hunter Edition	418	25.90%
Neither	322	19.95%
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06-26-2010, 04:20 PM	#1581
meehan Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2009 Location:England 4K collection:369 Blu-ray collection:1129 DVD collection:93 Trading Score:3	Agreed. Studios really need to start pulling their fingers out with regard to catalogue titles. I'd rather see fewer properly transferred titles than a lot of bad ones and if they're not going to put forth the effort I'd rather they didn't bother at all Last edited by meehan; 06-26-2010 at 08:36 PM.

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06-26-2010, 04:25 PM	#1582
dallywhitty Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Temple of Isis 4K collection:319 Blu-ray collection:1679 DVD collection:178	I don't own Predator on any medium, but when I eventually buy it, it'll be the Predator 1 & 2 Blu-ray Double Pack. I'll be avoiding the Ultimate Edition like the plague.

06-26-2010, 04:45 PM	#1586
YodasFootPowder Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Twin Cities, MN Home Theater Gallery:40 4K collection:154 Blu-ray collection:565 Blu-ray reviews: 4 Trading Score:3	Although I want my Blu-ray releases to all be 5/5 for PQ. All of the Blu-rays in my collection look far superior to their DVD counterpart. Saying that upconverting any DVD release makes the movie look comparable to the Blu-ray version is ridiculous, in my opinion. All of my Blu-rays look way better than the DVD version, bad transfer or not. Upconverting a DVD is just not even close to a Blu-ray, no matter how bad the Blu-ray transfer is. There may be one or two Blu-ray releases out there that are so horrible, that it's close. But, that's about it.

06-26-2010, 04:47 PM	#1587
BMM Expert Member Member since:Jul 2008 Trading Score:66	Anyone who thinks Blu-Ray doesn't look much better than DVD either needs a better TV or their eyes checked.

06-26-2010, 04:57 PM	#1588
markbr Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:UK. Home Theater Gallery:20 Blu-ray collection:595 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I just had a despatch email from zavvi.com for Predator ultimate hunter edition. Should have it for mon or tue. I will post pictures, mine is the UK release, I'm assuming it will be the same disc as the US ??? I have the original blu-ray release of this film. I wonder if they have remastered the Audio as well.

06-26-2010, 05:43 PM	#1592
drtre81 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:110	Holy crap... old http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/w...datorold33.jpg new http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/w...datornew33.jpg what's that about losing detail?

06-26-2010, 05:46 PM	#1594
Mike Z Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Virginia Beach Blu-ray collection:204	I don't own Predator on blu-ray yet and just skimming through the pages of this thread it seems to me that the new Hunter Edition is getting bashed. Should I pick this one up or not?

06-26-2010, 05:52 PM	#1597
dallywhitty Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Temple of Isis 4K collection:319 Blu-ray collection:1679 DVD collection:178	I'm not seeing increased detail in that second screenshot so much as much increased brightness, which is obviously going to reveal more.

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