Predator (1987) (Ultimate Hunter Edition)

[SpotOn]

Originally Posted by mars396

terrific ! where can one get one of these discs ?

Amazon, Best Buy, various online retailers...

[KrugStillo]

Originally Posted by Post Prod

You're right, I didn't think of that. Well I guess it's moot since any of these release will be abortions to most purists anyways right? Ones that would be bothered by cropping.

Amen on that one brother.

[Post Prod]

Originally Posted by mars396

terrific ! where can one get one of these discs ?

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Digit...s-Blu-ray/551/


If you want to be cheap and don't mind a little work, there are people over at AVS that make their own discs and you can often find places to download theirs for free and burn them. But DVE is pretty popular, every BR enthusiast should own a copy for sure.

[persuazion]

Originally Posted by Post Prod

any modern HD display should have their sharpness set to zero on any input receiving an HD signal.

Anything above 0 is adding noise to the picture.

Which is of course pretty ironic, that someone who appreciates the wonders of DNR, also likes to add noise to their picture.


There are no shortage of test pattern discs out there for you people to learn this on your own.

on my set min meaning 0 to 5 and you cant tell a difference.....

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by mars396

terrific ! where can one get one of these discs ?

Spears & Munsil Disc


The above disc also comes with any Oppo Blu-ray player. One of the great thigns about it is that the makers of the disc have their very own thread at this site to answer any of your questions:
Spears & Munsil Thread

[SpotOn]

Originally Posted by persuazion

So the Bluray industry has a decision to make....... picky videophiles who complain about mpegs and dnr or clueless consumers who just thinks it looks good and could care less about how it looked in the theatre

If the "clueless consumers" you mention don't care, why pander to the J6Ps anyway? If they are so enlightened with their tolerance, it should be no problem for the studio's to accommodate the "picky videophiles" who helped launch the format in the first place.

Why would those noble everymen even notice?

[Post Prod]

Originally Posted by persuazion

Your right but all Im saying is people have different taste in what they think looks good.....if somebody wasnt a brightened less grainy picture despite losing some detail then whos to say their wrong?

Sure, and who's to say people who think Blu-rays aren't a big enough improvement over DVD are wrong? I've met far more people who don't think BR is worth it than people who complain about grain in movies.

[SpotOn]

So now this discussion has degenerated to people's right to have opinions?

What is this, middle-school civics class?

Everybody enjoy your opinions, but remember this: In the real world there are these annoying little things called facts. Panic accordingly...

[ScuseMe]

Originally Posted by Grubert

No offense but that looks nothing like Predator. It looks like it had been shot in a movie set flooded with soap-opera lighting, instead of on location in a Mexican jungle (which it was).

Originally Posted by Spanbauer

His pictures don't look anything like the blu-ray.

Thank god! At least that's a plus for the new release.

His TV must be set for Vivid, or the iPhone is post-processing the shit out of the pics.

[persuazion]

Originally Posted by SpotOn

If the "clueless consumers" you mention don't care, why pander to the J6Ps anyway? If they are so enlightened with their tolerance, it should be no problem for the studio's to accommodate the "picky videophiles" who helped launch the format in the first place.

Why would those noble everymen even notice?

they usually do accommodate the picky videophiles....its only every once in awhile that a blu comes out that infuriates the grain lovers to this extent.

[toddly6666]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Digit...s-Blu-ray/551/

That Video Essentials blu-ray has grain!

[persuazion]

Originally Posted by Post Prod

Sure, and who's to say people who think Blu-rays aren't a big enough improvement over DVD are wrong? I've met far more people who don't think BR is worth it than people who complain about grain in movies.

Some people have different expectations then others...usually the people that I meet that dont think its an upgrade dont even know what an hdmi cable is....

[SpotOn]

Originally Posted by persuazion

they usually do accommodate the picky videophiles....its only every once in awhile that a blu comes out that infuriates the grain lovers to this extent.

It was a rhetorical question as people who want a faithful transfer are not "picky". If you honestly believe that, why do you even care about BD? By that logic DVD should be just fine for you and the others who want to call us names like "picky".

[Post Prod]

I wasn't please with the contrast tinkering on this new release. But I will say at least they didn't go as overboard with it like the DNR.

and I give them props for not going more overboard with edge enhancement to try and compensate for the heavy DNR as is often the case.

So for all the complaining, yes this release could have been much much worse.


Still the DNR is at near Evil Dead II levels here.

[persuazion]

Originally Posted by SpotOn

It was a rhetorical question as people want a faithful transfer are not "picky". If you honestly believe that, why do you even care about BD? By that logic DVD should be just fine for you and the others who want to call us names like "picky".

I dont care about faithful transfers.......I usually dont remember how a movie looked in the cinema when I saw it 20 years ago. I like Blu because of the more vivid colors and detail that it shows....despite it having DNR or not.

[Beast]

*Watches the petty bickering while he watches Predator again today*

Ahhh, it looks so breathtaking. I just can't stop watching it. Beautiful!

[persuazion]

And is being called picky that much of an insult from a group that calls others "Joe Six Packs" ?

[Beast]

Originally Posted by persuazion

And is being called picky that much of an insult from a group that calls others "Joe Six Packs" ?

It's the usual fanboy hypocrisy. Elevating yourself, while trashing those you disagree with. Pay it no mind.

[SpotOn]

Originally Posted by persuazion

I dont care about faithful transfers.......I usually dont remember how a movie looked in the cinema when I saw it 20 years ago. I like Blu because of the more vivid colors and detail that it shows....despite it having DNR or not.

Uh... you do know that detail is in the grain and when DNR is applied, the detail tends to disappear. And dont tell me there is more detail in the new scrubby-doobie-do version of Predator (If you think there is, you probably love that Reservoir Dogs transfer) as every image I have seen looks like they smeared Vaseline over the lens.

[Blu Titan]

All of the controversy is making me want to buy the new release just to compare it with the original release . It's a heated and interesting discussion, but hard to appreciate it without having viewed both editions.