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Old 07-12-2010, 11:13 PM   #2561
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yamaha, adcom and energy are a great combination. i just replaced the energy w/ deftech in my situation...

i am now thinking about getting an adcom gcd-600 cd player for a future 2 channel set up, i love the vintage adcom stuff...it's cheap but is built very well and will last forever...

just the other day on my local craigslist someone was selling a gtp-400 pre-amp, gfa 545II, and a 5 channel gfa7000 w/ one channel not working all together for just $300! i have no cash after switching out speakers, but man i would have loved to have jumped all over that...
Yes, good idea. I'll be keeping an eye on the pickin's in my local craigslist as well for vintage Adcom power amps/multi-amps too.

Those Def Techs are nice, arrt.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:15 PM   #2562
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Anthem actually underrates their products seriously the P5 amp actually deliver even greater performance then what they state.

I'm sure it will be the same way with their receiver and may very well have as little distortion at rated power than what you think Rwo.

I can't wait to see their full specs.
you will have your totems or dyns before me....

I am gonna get a new receiver first, either the Anthem or a yammy/emo setup this next spring, But I think that will really help the C-300s open up and blossom to what their potential really should be.

And then I have some bills to take care of(new child amongst other stuff), a new couch, TV stand, and landscape the backyard, then save....

the next year I will take the wife to Hawaii and maybe if shes working I will invest in speakers, but we will see how it goes....

So you will have your Dynaudios before me.. ahaha
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:18 PM   #2563
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I think those are fore different sources in 2.0 rig but does not semm to have the full 7.1 analog discrete channels unless it can be done using a certain combination of those analog inputs in some sort of config.
oh!

then that is kinda weak.... I guess you need to buy an Oppo now too.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:22 PM   #2564
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I talked with the Anthem tech services people and asked them about the receiver, they still cannot disclose everything, but he did tell me the receiver is 4 ohm stable and will handle 8 ohm speakers very well, even the inefficient ones.

If the reviews come back poorly, then I will be looking to do the same thing as you and I will get a discontinued Yamaha 765 or 1065 and an Emotiva XPA-3. Then I will use that until I get new speakers. Either way I expect that they new setup will run me about $1200 plus I will need a new TV stand. So one way or the other I plan to get the Energys some much better power.
Callas, after reading what aart had to say, I'd say you got a winner too. One nice thing about a good AVR like the Anthem's is that you won't have as big of a worry about extra audio racks and perhaps a sizeable wire management job. But either way it'll work out well for you with about the same expenditures.

In particular, I will have to make some space for the extra power amps and space is getting to be a premium in my setup. But I already have that figured out.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:26 PM   #2565
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you will have your totems or dyns before me....

I am gonna get a new receiver first, either the Anthem or a yammy/emo setup this next spring, But I think that will really help the C-300s open up and blossom to what their potential really should be.

And then I have some bills to take care of(new child amongst other stuff), a new couch, TV stand, and landscape the backyard, then save....

the next year I will take the wife to Hawaii and maybe if shes working I will invest in speakers, but we will see how it goes....

So you will have your Dynaudios before me.. ahaha

Why not if this what I prefer lol. I will audition before I jump on Totems and I will get myself an amp as you suggested.

BTW just the Anthem receiver would kind of blow your Sony out of the water, really let's face it it a different league of receiver and rated at 100 WPC all channel driven with such little distortion you will hear your Energy become more dynamic but willstay linear.

Man seriously I had tried an Onkyo THX 608 with Kef IQ and sounded dead flat boring with no dynamics what so ever.

WE hooked up the speakers to an HK3600 to see the difference and my god the sound was 100 times better more puch more life more dynamis but linear altho brighter than Energy speakers. The HK made them sound good actually while they wer a total disapoitment with the ONkyo.

Now I prefer the sound of Sony over Onkyo and my friends 2400es is very nice with the Energy seakers if he hooked up a decent amp to that man that would sound amazing.

I would say go for the receiver and see what that brings you. Course the EMO XPA-3 would be a great addition for that cheap. I may look into this also. My HK is defenetaly more dynamic I find also then the 2400ES certainly because of the higher current.

I like the PVA amps also from Anthem might look into that to as the MCA is really expensive.

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Old 07-12-2010, 11:33 PM   #2566
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oh!

then that is kinda weak.... I guess you need to buy an Oppo now too.

As you suggested earlier I will get an amp instead. The HK has a really nice sound to begin with and you find that Anthem has nice rich warm sound also.

That's why I would go for this over an Emo amp but Bigred prefers the Emo XPA3 over the MC30. Emo is brighter sounding.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:41 PM   #2567
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it says on the back of the receiver it has analog audio inputs, are those not the same?
According to the tech sheet on Anthem's site, the anolog inputs are only 2 channel, not multichannel.

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Old 07-13-2010, 12:00 AM   #2568
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Why not if this what I prefer lol. I will audition before I jump on Totems and I will get myself an amp as you suggested.

BTW just the Anthem receiver would kind of blow your Sony out of the water, really let's face it it a different league of receiver and rated at 100 WPC all channel driven with such little distortion you will hear your Energy become more dynamic but willstay linear.

Man seriously I had tried an Onkyo THX 608 with Kef IQ and sounded dead flat boring with no dynamics what so ever.

WE hooked up the speakers to an HK3600 to see the difference and my god the sound was 100 times better more puch more life more dynamis but linear altho brighter than Energy speakers. The HK made them sound good actually while they wer a total disapoitment with the ONkyo.

Now I prefer the sound of Sony over Onkyo and my friends 2400es is very nice with the Energy seakers if he hooked up a decent amp to that man that would sound amazing.

I would say go for the receiver and see what that brings you. Course the EMO XPA-3 would be a great addition for that cheap. I may look into this also. My HK is defenetaly more dynamic I find also then the 2400ES certainly because of the higher current.

I like the PVA amps also from Anthem might look into that to as the MCA is really expensive.
to me Onkyos sound dark and lack detail. I think the sonys have more detail, but lack a little punch on the bottom end. I am going for the Anthem MRX500 $1499, but if I can't get to that price point then the Marantz 6005 $999 may be the next receiver I jump on, as it has the same power and Marantz always perform well. So we will see.

If I had gotten the 2400ES instead of the 920, I would not change out my receiver, I would just add an amp and be happy. Your friend should do the same.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:02 AM   #2569
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As you suggested earlier I will get an amp instead. The HK has a really nice sound to begin with and you find that Anthem has nice rich warm sound also.

That's why I would go for this over an Emo amp but Bigred prefers the Emo XPA3 over the MC30. Emo is brighter sounding.
Emo is brighter that is what I am trying to avoid, sony is neutral with some touch of brightness, but I want to have it a little more musical and neutral to warm....
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:03 AM   #2570
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According to the tech sheet on Anthem's site, the anolog inputs are only 2 channel, not multichannel.

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yeah, me and Oly touched on that earlier, kinda weak if you ask me.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:21 AM   #2571
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to me Onkyos sound dark and lack detail. I think the sonys have more detail, but lack a little punch on the bottom end. I am going for the Anthem MRX500 $1499, but if I can't get to that price point then the Marantz 6005 $999 may be the next receiver I jump on, as it has the same power and Marantz always perform well. So we will see.

If I had gotten the 2400ES instead of the 920, I would not change out my receiver, I would just add an amp and be happy. Your friend should do the same.

For now he's has more than what he needs anyways and it sounds amazing just as god as the HK just a bit less lower end but still very nice sounding receiver and he will not buy an amp for another 2 years now he lives in an apartment buiding and he has this crazy 7.1 setup lol he will also upgrade is 32 inch sony to a 50 inch TV.

Onkyo you are dead on and as I said dead flat boring sounding, no detail and no dynamics what so ever, Linear speaker can be quite punchy when paired withthe right gear and my HK gives me that but I want a little more and since I upgrade the speakers I will look into somthing 4 ohms stable.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:24 AM   #2572
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Emo is brighter that is what I am trying to avoid, sony is neutral with some touch of brightness, but I want to have it a little more musical and neutral to warm....
Spend another 1300$ and get the Anthem PVA 5 so 700 $ more than the Emo. altho Emo is more powerful.

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For now he's has more than what he needs anyways and it sounds amazing just as god as the HK just a bit less lower end but still very nice sounding receiver and he will not buy an amp for another 2 years now he lives in an apartment buiding and he has this crazy 7.1 setup lol he will also upgrade is 32 inch sony to a 50 inch TV.

Onkyo you are dead on and as I said dead flat boring sounding, no detail and no dynamics what so ever, Linear speaker can be quite punchy when paired withthe right gear and my HK gives me that but I want a little more and since I upgrade the speakers I will look into somthing 4 ohms stable.
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Spend another 1300$ and get the Anthem PVA 5 so 700 $ more than the Emo. altho Emo is more powerful.
This is why Anthem is one of the top of the receivers on my list. They have a more warmer, musical sound and they are 4 ohm stable. So that way I can upgrade to Dynaudio or Totems without worry, and I can have something now that will really power my Energys. Then eventually I will add an Amp after I have had the speakers for a little while....

Plan is a new Receiver this coming spring, Hawaii spring of 2012 and then Speakers in the spring of 2013

Who knows.... if I get a really big tax return then I may be able snatch up speakers this year... but I am not banking on it.... so Im future planning.
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Old 07-13-2010, 03:24 AM   #2574
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According to the tech sheet on Anthem's site, the anolog inputs are only 2 channel, not multichannel.

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Jwilly.... have you been without speakers and a receiver this whole time?

when are you planning on getting a new setup?
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i may have a deal on a pair of c-500. can a rotel rmb-1075 run them? and what a good price on a pre-owned pair?
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hello all,

i may have a deal on a pair of c-500. can a rotel rmb-1075 run them? and what a good price on a pre-owned pair?
350 would be a fair price and even 400$ in great condition even if I paid 200 for mine.

Your 120 wpc Rotel is more than enough to drive the C-500, I drive them with my HK rated at 50WPC al channels driven and it does not lack Dynamics the HK is good in that department but your rotel is a big step up.

you will not be disapointed.
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According to the tech sheet on Anthem's site, the anolog inputs are only 2 channel, not multichannel.

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Yes the inputs are 2 channel (for regular sources such as a cd player, tape deck ect). However I've checked each model and if you are using a BD with HDMI - no need, and it does have the all important preouts on it for extra amps. Unless you just need the 7.1 ext input - this receiver seems great! IMHO.
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yeah, me and Oly touched on that earlier, kinda weak if you ask me.
I saw that after I made my post. I certainly agree about the exclusion being disappointing, not a deal breaker for me though.

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Jwilly.... have you been without speakers and a receiver this whole time?

when are you planning on getting a new setup?
I still have my trusty Onkyo 605, but no speakers. I don't know if it would be worth it for me to ditch the 605 at this point in time, maybe if I could get $200 for it...

The plan is to upgrade by the end of the year, but I've been toying with the idea of getting RC-10s now (as they really are a wonderful speaker) and then when I really upgrade, transition them to the rear.

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Yes the inputs are 2 channel (for regular sources such as a cd player, tape deck ect). However I've checked each model and if you are using a BD with HDMI - no need, and it does have the all important preouts on it for extra amps. Unless you just need the 7.1 ext input - this receiver seems great! IMHO.
I don't need them, but I do want them. Like I said above, it's not a deal breaker that they are missing.

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hello all,

i may have a deal on a pair of c-500. can a rotel rmb-1075 run them? and what a good price on a pre-owned pair?
I agree 350-400 is a good price, and yes the rotel will do just fine...
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