INCEPTION Review Thread (SPOILERS!!)

[Buddy Christ]

Ok so some might know I work at a theater. Therefore I was able today to "pop" into all of the 4 showings we have of Inception.

New findings

Kids~

[Show spoiler] He only see them a certain way because that was the last way he saw them before he left the country. He never said goodbye. Then his lawyer gave him the plain tickets. His boys hair is shorter in the opening scene (unlike later when the opening shot is revisited, the show his kids playing on the beach)
Also we only see his kids (not as a projection) one time when Dom retells his story.

Mal, Limbo and the end~

[Show spoiler] When Fischer and Saito go to limbo due to death at 3 levels down and heavy sedation, Cobb tricks Mal to say where Fischer is by saying he will stay with Mal. He is lying and comes to grips that she is a "SHADE" (as called on many movie posters) and not the real woman he loved. When she realizes she is sold out she stabs him. This will obviously kill him. This I believe is what transports him to the shore (opening scene). Saito has been dead for a while which ages him.

Theme~

[Show spoiler] There seems to be a leap of faith theme. Saito says it to Cobb first on the heli-pad, then Mal says it to Dom before her death, then Cobb says it back to Saito at the end

THE TOTEM!~

[Show spoiler] Is a central character! It is what Mal chose to track her reality, then gave it up (put in "safe"). Then used by Cobb to incept his wife. Later used by Cobb to track HIS reality. It is what he steps on in the hotel room that breaks the glass (that later haunts him in the hotel Mr. Charles scene) The significance that Mal gave up her totem just before she commits suicide. It reminds Saito that it is an old friend, and defines the end of the movie. The totem is in every MAJOR scene.

More to come

[Lopan]

Originally Posted by AaronSCH

Sorry to all you "Terminator 2," "Aliens" "Titanic" and "Avatar" fans, but James Cameron just makes soul-less popcorn flicks—no depth to his characters and storytelling abilities.

I take no offence. I have been a fan of Camerons since I was a kid in 84' till now. Cameron just know how to film action on screen and thats what I love. As for Aliens, I really enjoyed his characters and it was the best characters he created. Second best for me would be The Abyss.

[GreenScar]

GUYS NO MORE CAMERON TALK HERE PLEASE. I DON'T WANT TO ERASE A BUNCH OF POSTS



Back on topic

[Buddy Christ]

Originally Posted by GreenScar

GUYS NO MORE CAMERON TALK HERE PLEASE. I DON'T WANT TO ERASE A BUNCH OF POSTS



Back on topic

You must Incept them to get them to stop.

[Batman1980]

So on-topic, who do you guys think is prettier, Marion Cotillard or Ellen Page? Honestly while Page is extremely pretty, Marion Cotillard is 100% gorgeous and sexy.

[Lopan]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

So on-topic, who do you guys think is prettier, Marion Cotillard or Ellen Page? Honestly while Page is extremely pretty, Marion Cotillard is 100% gorgeous and sexy.

Both are beautiful, The have survived the burning blade. I shall marry both women....prepare them!!!

[Blu-Generation]

Originally Posted by Lopan

Both are beautiful, The have survived the burning blade. I shall marry both women....prepare them!!!

I thought they must have green eyes. Do they?

As for Inception. Finally saw it. Thought it was interesting. But I will need to think more about it.

[D-Blitz]

Back from Inception. What did I just watch?

I think I need to clear time in a coming weekend.

[lDlisturb3d]

Originally Posted by D-Blitz

Back from Inception. What did I just watch?

I think I need to clear time in a coming weekend.

Tell me about it 5/5 simply amazing.

[mikejet]

loved it, here's my question:

[Show spoiler]So do you think this was himself battling his subconscious to deal with what he did to his wife? Like his mind came up with this elaborate plot so that in the end he could finally face the main issue he had with his wife? The only reason I ask is because, well, he never uses his own totem. They state specifically that it's something ONLY YOU could handle because then only you would know it's weight and how it feels. He's been using his wife's totem the entire time. Plus his children never aged.

[Buddy Christ]

Originally Posted by mikejet

loved it, here's my question:

[Show spoiler]So do you think this was himself battling his subconscious to deal with what he did to his wife? Like his mind came up with this elaborate plot so that in the end he could finally face the main issue he had with his wife? The only reason I ask is because, well, he never uses his own totem. They state specifically that it's something ONLY YOU could handle because then only you would know it's weight and how it feels. He's been using his wife's totem the entire time. Plus his children never aged.

[Show spoiler] As far as his children, first we do not know how long it has been since he left his children. Second, except for one scene we only see his projection of his children so age is irrelevant. And third the boys hair is longer at the end of the movie than at the beginning.

[mpstjohn]

Originally Posted by mikejet

loved it, here's my question:

[Show spoiler]So do you think this was himself battling his subconscious to deal with what he did to his wife? Like his mind came up with this elaborate plot so that in the end he could finally face the main issue he had with his wife? The only reason I ask is because, well, he never uses his own totem. They state specifically that it's something ONLY YOU could handle because then only you would know it's weight and how it feels. He's been using his wife's totem the entire time. Plus his children never aged.

[Show spoiler]His children did age. There were two kids and they were played by four actors, check the end credits. Two years have passed since he left America, so the kids from the flashback are younger than those at the end of the movie. There are at least two indicators that the end is indeed reality. For one there is the top itself. Those who have worked on the film have said its important to listen closely at the end as you can hear it to start to wobble right before it cuts away. Its about to topple over (unlike the top in dreams that spins fluidly). Then there's the wedding ring. In all of the dream sequences he projects his wedding ring onto his finger. There is no wedding ring at the end of the movie though. The point of him leaving the top on the table is that its no longer his totem (and yes, it was also his wife's), the faces of his children, changed by age are proof enough that he is awake.

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by D-Blitz

Back from Inception. What did I just watch?

I think I need to clear time in a coming weekend.

I hope that means you loved and are blown away by it's awesomeness.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by mikejet

loved it, here's my question:

[Show spoiler]So do you think this was himself battling his subconscious to deal with what he did to his wife? Like his mind came up with this elaborate plot so that in the end he could finally face the main issue he had with his wife? The only reason I ask is because, well, he never uses his own totem. They state specifically that it's something ONLY YOU could handle because then only you would know it's weight and how it feels. He's been using his wife's totem the entire time. Plus his children never aged.

[Show spoiler]I'll handle your children question first. His children actually did age. Each child had two different actors playing them at different ages. It was clear to me when I watched the film, but most seem to be hell bent on the belief that they hadn't aged. As proof? IMDB specifically states Philipa (3 years), James (20 months), Philipa (5 years), James (3 years).

As for your first question? I do believe that you hit on what the film was ACTUALLY about. I'm not sure if you have it fully realized yet though. Most people think that the film is all about Cobb's journey to get home to his children. And that's why everyone gets hung up on the spinning top at the end. However, I believe that the film is actually about Cobb's journey towards finally letting go of his guilt FOR PLANTING THE IDEA IN HIS WIFE! He, after all, did not kill her. And that is why I believe that Nolan didn't let us know what happened to the spinning top. IT DOESN'T MATTER. The story wasn't about him getting home to his children. Whether the man is in the real world or the in limbo is inconsequential. That has nothing to do with the psychological trauma that he had to overcome. He can now be happy in either case... although I do personally believe that he is in the real world.

[RippdBD10101]

MY FRIEND WENT TO THE IMAX MIDNIGHT SHOWING AND FELL ASLEEP FOR THE ENTIRE MOVIE!!
I INTEND ON BRINGING HIM BACK SO I CAN SEE IT AGAIN.

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

[Show spoiler]I'll handle your children question first. His children actually did age. Each child had two different actors playing them at different ages. It was clear to me when I watched the film, but most seem to be hell bent on the belief that they hadn't aged. As proof? IMDB specifically states Philipa (3 years), James (20 months), Philipa (5 years), James (3 years).

As for your first question? I do believe that you hit on what the film was ACTUALLY about. I'm not sure if you have it fully realized yet though. Most people think that the film is all about Cobb's journey to get home to his children. And that's why everyone gets hung up on the spinning top at the end. However, I believe that the film is actually about Cobb's journey towards finally letting go of his guilt FOR PLANTING THE IDEA IN HIS WIFE! He, after all, did not kill her. And that is why I believe that Nolan didn't let us know what happened to the spinning top. IT DOESN'T MATTER. The story wasn't about him getting home to his children. Whether the man is in the real world or the in limbo is inconsequential. That has nothing to do with the psychological trauma that he had to overcome. He can now be happy in either case... although I do personally believe that he is in the real world.

[Show spoiler]My dad and little brother also went to the midnight showing and they went again on Saturday to bring my mom. My dad said the same thing as you. That this is a movie more focused on Cobb and his journey to forgive himself and let go of his guilt.

[Buddy Christ]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

[Show spoiler]I'll handle your children question first. His children actually did age. Each child had two different actors playing them at different ages. It was clear to me when I watched the film, but most seem to be hell bent on the belief that they hadn't aged. As proof? IMDB specifically states Philipa (3 years), James (20 months), Philipa (5 years), James (3 years).

As for your first question? I do believe that you hit on what the film was ACTUALLY about. I'm not sure if you have it fully realized yet though. Most people think that the film is all about Cobb's journey to get home to his children. And that's why everyone gets hung up on the spinning top at the end. However, I believe that the film is actually about Cobb's journey towards finally letting go of his guilt FOR PLANTING THE IDEA IN HIS WIFE! He, after all, did not kill her. And that is why I believe that Nolan didn't let us know what happened to the spinning top. IT DOESN'T MATTER. The story wasn't about him getting home to his children. Whether the man is in the real world or the in limbo is inconsequential. That has nothing to do with the psychological trauma that he had to overcome. He can now be happy in either case... although I do personally believe that he is in the real world.

[Show spoiler] Seriously dude. Stop stating your opinion as fact. The top does matter! To me and many others it matters. And if it did not matter to Nolan, why put it in there. And the movie seems to be very much about seeing his children again. THATS IS THE PLOT OF THE WHOLE MOVIE! He takes the job so he can get back home. He does not take the job to get redemption or get rid of the guilt for his wife. That is the hurdle he must overcome to see his children. Now these are my opinions and until the writer/director tells us the answer, we will have to say that these are our opinions. It's like you anointed yourself the "Inception Guru"

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

[Show spoiler]I'll handle your children question first. His children actually did age. Each child had two different actors playing them at different ages. It was clear to me when I watched the film, but most seem to be hell bent on the belief that they hadn't aged. As proof? IMDB specifically states Philipa (3 years), James (20 months), Philipa (5 years), James (3 years).

As for your first question? I do believe that you hit on what the film was ACTUALLY about. I'm not sure if you have it fully realized yet though. Most people think that the film is all about Cobb's journey to get home to his children. And that's why everyone gets hung up on the spinning top at the end. However, I believe that the film is actually about Cobb's journey towards finally letting go of his guilt FOR PLANTING THE IDEA IN HIS WIFE! He, after all, did not kill her. And that is why I believe that Nolan didn't let us know what happened to the spinning top. IT DOESN'T MATTER. The story wasn't about him getting home to his children. Whether the man is in the real world or the in limbo is inconsequential. That has nothing to do with the psychological trauma that he had to overcome. He can now be happy in either case... although I do personally believe that he is in the real world.

[Show spoiler]i concur. it's a character study(the majority of Nolan's films have been) and in the end, it's about letting go. he had to, one way or another, deal with his personal issues. he always blamed her madness and couldn't accept, until the very end, that he did that to his wife.

AWESOME



and you're right, it would be irrelevant if he woke up or not. what really matters is he finally admitted, to himself, that he directly led to his wifes death.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Buddy Christ

[Show spoiler] Seriously dude. Stop stating your opinion as fact. The top does matter! To me and many others it matters. And if it did not matter to Nolan, why put it in there. And the movie seems to be very much about seeing his children again. THATS IS THE PLOT OF THE WHOLE MOVIE! He takes the job so he can get back home. He does not take the job to get redemption or get rid of the guilt for his wife. That is the hurdle he must overcome to see his children. Now these are my opinions and until the writer/director tells us the answer, we will have to say that these are our opinions. It's like you anointed yourself the "Inception Guru"

Give me a bit more credit than "Inception Guru". I'm, at the very least, an Inception Archangel!

[Show spoiler]He keeps taking the jobs because subconsciously he needs to deal with the guilt. Therefore, he keeps putting himself into situations where he will be presented with the guilt in such a blatant way. He has himself fooled into believing that he is working in order to buy his way back, but he couldn't possibly want to get back to his "normal" life with so much guilt inside. That would only lead to an unhappy life with his children. Think about it. If he just wanted to get to his children, he wouldn't have faced his guilt and the children themselves would become an even bigger representation of that guilt within him. That would not be a happy life. Heck, that might even lead to resenting the children. And, that would, in turn, cause the children trauma through his subconscious "abuse" of them as symbols of his guilt.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by RippdBD10101

MY FRIEND WENT TO THE IMAX MIDNIGHT SHOWING AND FELL ASLEEP FOR THE ENTIRE MOVIE!!
I INTEND ON BRINGING HIM BACK SO I CAN SEE IT AGAIN.

He should ask for forgivness from the lords!