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Old 11-18-2007, 05:29 AM   #1
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Try the cars game or the ratatouille game, my only point is that the studios wont keep updating these web features. After the movie is done making money, it wont be updated. And all can be done at time of release with blu-ray space. But Im sure we will see it.
Oh I know that. Why would they keep updating?

Like I said, it just gives them an extra option during the "selling" phase. And I'll I want to really know is whether or not BLU can/will have the option.

Now, if we could just get HD extras and not 480p leftovers, we'd be perfect.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:43 AM   #2
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Even profile1.1 only player can handle web based contents downloaded via PC to SD card etc. This fact was comfirmed by Panasonic and DENON.
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:29 AM   #3
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my speculation:

profile 2.0 will eventually be standard/mandatory



for enthusiasts, high quality video and audio is enough reason to buy into hdm. in order to appeal to the masses like j6p, interactivity is key.

right now the war is with hd-dvd so the focus is on things like studio support, ce support, shelf space, etc

when hd-dvd folds, the war will be with sd-dvd and convincing j6p to upgrade. that's when interactivity will become much more prominent in titles and profile 2.0 will become mandatory either by BDA decree or simply by consumer expectation
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:34 AM   #4
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I don't remember all of the details but isn't National Treasure going to be a BD-Live disc with some sort of web enabled content?
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:42 AM   #5
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Oh I know that. Why would they keep updating?

Like I said, it just gives them an extra option during the "selling" phase. And I'll I want to really know is whether or not BLU can/will have the option.

the common answer would be because it's a great way to advertise other products.

1) the trailers on a dvd can be updated for current times (ever watch an older dvd and see a trailer for a movie "coming soon to theatres" but it's already out on dvd?)

2) the biography pages can be updated. someone rents "pretty woman" and click on julia robert's info page. it shows her movie career but also says "Charlie Wilson's War" coming out in 2008

3) disney decides to do spinoff movie or tv show of sidekick from one of their movies XYZ. they upload a game for XYZ focusing on the sidekick to get kids more interested in that character.

etc

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oh, and because blu-ray is more programmable than hd-dvd and requires more on-board storage for profile 2.0 than hd-dvd it makes the possibilites quite endless, so they'll likely come up with things we're not thinking about today.

hd-dvd may brag about being feature complete, but it's also feature limited. in the long term blu-ray will show itself to be the better choice for interactivity just like it's already showing itself to be the better choice for audio&video quality (video bitrate being dipped into, audio languages being cut out, discs being filled to the brim with just the movie, etc)

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Old 11-18-2007, 08:47 AM   #6
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who is going to pay for hosting online content indefinitely ?
if i buy that titles 3-5 years after release from discount bin, am i still able to access the pop up or get a cross-out box ?

it's just a gimmick to let them brag about useless features.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:45 PM   #7
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who is going to pay for hosting online content indefinitely ?
if i buy that titles 3-5 years after release from discount bin, am i still able to access the pop up or get a cross-out box ?

it's just a gimmick to let them brag about useless features.
the studio that released the disc will host

bandwidth is cheap

the online stuff would be transparent. there would be no "error 404" because there would be no links or menus to things that haven't been created yet...

in my example of biography page for actor, it would only show the default page built into the disc. it is only if the new info has been successfully downloaded that the page would be updated to show 2008 movie the actor is starring in.

in my example of the extra game, the menu option for that game wouldn't exist until it's been successfully downloaded.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:56 PM   #8
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in my example of the extra game, the menu option for that game wouldn't exist until it's been successfully downloaded.
That lengthens the menu load time.

If you want to play a game, put in a game disk. <--- the true power of the PS3 - it's multipurpose, unlike a HD DVD player that CAN'T play games and thus need to lean on web content.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:54 PM   #9
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who is going to pay for hosting online content indefinitely ?
if i buy that titles 3-5 years after release from discount bin, am i still able to access the pop up or get a cross-out box ?

it's just a gimmick to let them brag about useless features.
+1 - keep it all on the disk please!
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:00 PM   #10
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the common answer would be because it's a great way to advertise other products.
Awesome, more advertising in my life. Please count me out.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:28 PM   #11
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if I am not mistaken. narnia or nemo or sleeping beauty will have web-enabled content. It is planned for 2008
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:33 PM   #12
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Hope not.

After a few years, pop a disc in and try to access some content only to get a 404 page not found error when the studio decides it is no longer worth keeping online or moves it's address.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:40 PM   #13
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Awesome, more advertising in my life. Please count me out.
if you actually read my examples you will see that it isn't any MORE advertising than already exists on sd-dvd, it's the SAME. it's just a way to keep the disc updated
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:48 PM   #14
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Unless they are going to update me to the latest platinum, directors cut, extra extended cut or whatever for free then I am not that interested in this feature. Suck's of backdoor advertising to me also.
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