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Old 08-05-2010, 12:47 AM   #1
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Hi, my brother just bought an LG LCD TV and I was disconcerted because all the movies I brought over to try out looked like digital movies instead of films. The Bladerunner Blu-ray and Raiders of the Lost Ark upscaled DVD almost looked like a video game. On my Benq computer screen it's looks much more natural.

Is this possibly a type of TV setting or just the LG style?

If it's the TV style then could some people recommend what HDTVs they feel best represent a theatre experience?

Thanks!
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Old 08-05-2010, 01:00 AM   #2
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It's just a TV setting, that deranged MotionFlow/SmoothMotion/whatever they're calling it these days that makes it look all video-y.
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Old 08-05-2010, 01:05 AM   #3
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Its problably the settings. Check and see how high he has the sharpness is set. Sharpness will give a picture artificial lines that shouldn't be there and give a very poor picture quality. You should turn sharpness as far down as you can stand. Also check to see if the tv is set on vivid if it is I would recommend using a different setting. Also if the t.v. has 120-240 hz turning that all the way up will give it a different look.
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It's just a TV setting, that deranged MotionFlow/SmoothMotion/whatever they're calling it these days that makes it look all video-y.
This. It's motion interpolation.

It's not sharpness, vivid or any other adjustable picture setting, and 120/240Hz cannot be "adjusted". Have him turn off any motion enhancement settings, and you'll see the films the way they were meant to be seen.
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Hi, my brother just bought an LG LCD TV and I was disconcerted because all the movies I brought over to try out looked like digital movies instead of films. The Bladerunner Blu-ray and Raiders of the Lost Ark upscaled DVD almost looked like a video game. On my Benq computer screen it's looks much more natural.

Is this possibly a type of TV setting or just the LG style?

If it's the TV style then could some people recommend what HDTVs they feel best represent a theatre experience?

Thanks!
Not the TV. It's a setting on the TV. Read peoples posts above mine for more detail.
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:06 AM   #6
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People are getting away from them because you can't hang them on the wall, but I think DLP has much more of a film look to it, than LCD or plasma.........
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Old 08-06-2010, 02:45 AM   #7
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Thanks guys, I'll get him to experiment with it.
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Old 08-06-2010, 03:51 AM   #8
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I still don't recommend LCDs to my customers for best overall image fidelity. The better plasmas still look superior to me, and have fewer motion rendering problems.

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Old 08-06-2010, 04:26 AM   #9
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Hello

I read your post when it originally posted and simply did not have the time to respond; my apology. Tonight though, I have to make up for it.

Before judging your brother's television, or any other for that matter; please consider acquiring one of the discs available for this purpose.

Setting the basic picture controls, while not a calibration, are extremely valuable for a reasonable picture quality without the associated expense of a professional calibration.

Once adjusted, as best you are able, you can then begin to get an idea of what the respective display looks like and is capable of; I expect that you will be pleasantly surprised - try doing your brother's display for a beginning.


Two excellent discs available are :
  • DVE HD Basics - by Joe Kane
  • Spears & Munsil High Definition Benchmark Blu-ray Edition - by Stacy Spears & Don Munsil

While many have favorites; I would not be able to live without both; they are uniquely of the highest quality.

In closing; your observations of your brother's display are par for the course, for a display as generally sold.

Using one of these discs, properly, should result in a film-like quality, allowing for a true Blu-ray Experience.

Lastly, be careful to do the adjustments in whatever mode is closest to cinema or movie, with all special functions off; just some guidance here.


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Hi, my brother just bought an LG LCD TV and I was disconcerted because all the movies I brought over to try out looked like digital movies instead of films. The Bladerunner Blu-ray and Raiders of the Lost Ark upscaled DVD almost looked like a video game. On my Benq computer screen it's looks much more natural.

Is this possibly a type of TV setting or just the LG style?

If it's the TV style then could some people recommend what HDTVs they feel best represent a theatre experience?

Thanks!

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Old 08-06-2010, 06:06 AM   #10
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Chances are its the motionflow from the 120hz/240hz. It gives films an awkward look (IMO) turning it off helps give it that cinema quality that your looking for.
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Old 08-06-2010, 01:59 PM   #11
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Although tricky to find and a bit "old" the Samsung HLS series DLP's are still my favorite TV display for a film like presentation. After a good calibration by a professional, I still think they best (overall) any display out there under $3k or even higher.
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:11 AM   #12
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If you don't mind deep you can get CRT Rear Projection set.. trumps any Plasma or LCD. Plus you don't have to deal with the major flaws of Plasma's (image retention and glare).
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If you don't mind deep you can get CRT Rear Projection set.. trumps any Plasma or LCD. Plus you don't have to deal with the major flaws of Plasma's (image retention and glare).
Even better, go front projection.
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Old 08-07-2010, 12:18 AM   #14
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that's why I love my sxrd.
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Old 08-07-2010, 02:15 AM   #15
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If you are dealing with strictly flat panel displays, plasmas will give you the best "film like" quality over LCD/LED.

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Even better, go front projection.
Very true!
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I don't really understand this. My sister has a Vizio LCD that does 240 Hz and her Blu-rays look like video games/documentary.

I have a Sharp Aquos LED and my Blu-rays look like the do in the movie theater.

Which look is the correct way to view Blu-rays?

I was amazed at the quality of the Vizio's. How do I get my TV to display more of that video game/documentary look? Where do I go to change the settings?
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that's why I love my sxrd.
Ditto, nothing else like it!
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Old 08-20-2010, 03:45 AM   #19
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I don't really understand this. My sister has a Vizio LCD that does 240 Hz and her Blu-rays look like video games/documentary.

I have a Sharp Aquos LED and my Blu-rays look like the do in the movie theater.

Which look is the correct way to view Blu-rays?

I was amazed at the quality of the Vizio's. How do I get my TV to display more of that video game/documentary look? Where do I go to change the settings?
Film purists will say that that the only to watch Blu-rays is the way your Aquos is currently showing them. Many other people including myself prefer the video/documentary look, like the way Blu-rays look when played on your sister Vizio. To make Blu-rays look like that you have to change a setting on your tv's menu to "motionflow or something similar". The higher you make this setting, the more video like and life like the movie will look. To really make it ultra smooth, keep the motionflow setting very high and on your Blu-ray player make sure the movie plays at 60 fps and not 24 fps. "I can hear the film purists cursing me over my last statement

So the best answer to your question on the proper way to watch Blu-rays is whatever looks the best for you. Everyone has different tastes.
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:02 AM   #20
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Thanks!

So I am assuming that all HDTVs have this Motion flow or whatever it's called?
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