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ShellOilJunior · 09-16-2010, 08:31 PM

Roger Ebert recently added Mystery Train to his greatest movies list. Good read.

ChadFL · 09-16-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Roger Ebert recently added Mystery Train to his greatest movies list. Good read.

Never understood it's popularity. I've seen every Criterion out on Blu-Ray and thought Mystery Train was by far the worst of the entire lot. Mystery Train Wreck is a better name for it.

Beta Man · 09-16-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadFL

Never understood it's popularity. I've seen every Criterion out on Blu-Ray and thought Mystery Train was by far the worst of the entire lot. Mystery Train Wreck is a better name for it.

You gonna eat that plum?

Cheerupemokid · 09-16-2010, 08:53 PM

Finally crossed one of my Criterion's off of the "must watch" list last Friday when my girlfriend and I sat down to watch Night Train To Munich. Fantastic film! I really did love everything about it. There are some great thrills, some serious laughs, and some awesome performances. I love British humor, so elements like Charters talking about how disappointed he is realizing now that Germany and England are at war he will never see his golf clubs again that he lent to a friend in Germany are hysterical to me.

By the climax, I found myself at the edge of my couch (literally) waiting to see what would happen at last. So much fun to watch, and frankly I cannot wait to see it again.

The short documentary on the disc was a great little treat post-film as well. I now know the history of the story and of Charters and Caldicott. If nothing else, it makes me want to rush out and pick up The Lady Vanishes just for more of those characters. I also love the politics and symbolism at play, which I don't know I would have picked up on entirely, so that was much appreciated.

It is a bit crazy to me how this movie, which was celebrated as "top 10" best of the year when it came out, has kind of gone ignored in the decades since. There is very little I've found online about the film, and if it weren't for Criterion, I don't know that I would have ever heard of it. Love discovering new films like this because of them.

Juiceboxjerry · 09-16-2010, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadFL

Never understood it's popularity. I've seen every Criterion out on Blu-Ray and thought Mystery Train was by far the worst of the entire lot. Mystery Train Wreck is a better name for it.

Really? Worse than Ride With the Devil? That movie was garbage. Jarmusch films really are kind of an acquired taste though. But, I actually really enjoyed Mystery Train.

As for Spielberg, I'm not a huge fan, but I'm not a hater either. There's definitely a place for Spielberg movies, unlike a lot of director's that put out complete crap. I really can't stand Saving Private Ryan though, which is always cited as one of his best films. Does anyone else like AI? I think that movie is terrific. Also, Minority Report was pretty good, as far as his more recent stuff goes.

Deviation · 09-16-2010, 09:02 PM

I would have sworn that Night Train to Munich had been announced or leaked as a Blu-ray release from Criterion at some point but I can't find anything about it. I think I saw pre-order pages at B&N and Amazon, too. Am I hallucinating?

ChadFL · 09-16-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

You gonna eat that plum?

Huh?

ChadFL · 09-16-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Juiceboxjerry

Really? Worse than Ride With the Devil? That movie was garbage. Jarmusch films really are kind of an acquired taste though. But, I actually really enjoyed Mystery Train.

As for Spielberg, I'm not a huge fan, but I'm not a hater either. There's definitely a place for Spielberg movies, unlike a lot of director's that put out complete crap. I really can't stand Saving Private Ryan though, which is always cited as one of his best films. Does anyone else like AI? I think that movie is terrific. Also, Minority Report was pretty good, as far as his more recent stuff goes.

I've yet to actually meet a person who liked A.I. I thought it was terrible.

rkish · 09-16-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadFL

Never understood it's popularity. I've seen every Criterion out on Blu-Ray and thought Mystery Train was by far the worst of the entire lot. Mystery Train Wreck is a better name for it.

You obviously don't understand Jarmusch films...

If you've seen any of his other films...Coffee and Cigarettes, Night on Earth, Broken Flowers, etc...they deal more with the interaction of characters and personalities more so than following what one might consider to be a coherent plot.

This is, in a way, no different than Antonioni being more concerned about the "visualness" of his films or Godard looking at the use of colors or lighting.

Besides...it has some very funny moments in it.

rkish · 09-16-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Juiceboxjerry

Really? Worse than Ride With the Devil? That movie was garbage. Jarmusch films really are kind of an acquired taste though. But, I actually really enjoyed Mystery Train.

As for Spielberg, I'm not a huge fan, but I'm not a hater either. There's definitely a place for Spielberg movies, unlike a lot of director's that put out complete crap. I really can't stand Saving Private Ryan though, which is always cited as one of his best films. Does anyone else like AI? I think that movie is terrific. Also, Minority Report was pretty good, as far as his more recent stuff goes.

Yes...I enjoyed AI...but I'm a big Kubrick fan...and as you know, this was a Kubrick project that he asked Spielberg to helm. I think he did his level best to keep it as true to Kubrick's vision, as he had a lot of respect for him.

ChadFL · 09-16-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rkish

You obviously don't understand Jarmusch films...

If you've seen any of his other films...Coffee and Cigarettes, Night on Earth, Broken Flowers, etc...they deal more with the interaction of characters and personalities more so than following what one might consider to be a coherent plot.

This is, in a way, no different than Antonioni being more concerned about the "visualness" of his films or Godard looking at the use of colors or lighting.

Besides...it has some very funny moments in it.

I just prefer films that both have a coherent plot and character development. You actually can have it both ways. And if Jarmusch does focus on personalities he sure picked some poor ones. Most of the characters in Mystery Train are as boring as it gets. Most of the characters were thoroughly unlikable.

biglou114 · 09-16-2010, 09:25 PM

I just emailed Mulvaney about how the BBS box will be packaged.

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Originally Posted by Jon Mulvaney

The packaging for the AMERICA LOST AND FOUND Blu-ray box set will be digipacks in a slip case.

Even though I knew that that was probably going to be the case (no pun intended) I was holding out hope that each would be in a separate plastic case.

Juiceboxjerry · 09-16-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadFL

I've yet to actually meet a person who liked A.I. I thought it was terrible.

Well, now you can say you know a person that likes it (two, including rkish)

I'm curious why you didn't like it, other than that it was just "terrible". Was it the ending? A lot of people don't like it for that reason, saying it wasn't true to Kubrick's vision.

ChadFL · 09-16-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by biglou114

I just emailed Mulvaney about how the BBS box will be packaged.

Even though I knew that that was probably going to be the case (no pun intended) I was holding out hope that each would be in a separate plastic case.

As far as the BBC set is concerned this may be a good thing for some of us. I already have shelf space limitations and separate Criterion clear cases for 7 films takes up a good deal more space than digipack style.

Deviation · 09-16-2010, 09:47 PM

A.I. is certainly flawed, but there were parts of it I really enjoyed.

rkish · 09-16-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadFL

I just prefer films that both have a coherent plot and character development. You actually can have it both ways. And if Jarmusch does focus on personalities he sure picked some poor ones. Most of the characters in Mystery Train are as boring as it gets. Most of the characters were thoroughly unlikable.

Hey...that's fair...to each his own.

Trust me...it took a lot of patience and getting to "understand the director" to finally start to enjoy films by Antonioni and Godard.

I think that the review by Roger Ebert about Mystery Train that ShellOil very kindly posted, sums up the idea and charm of the film.

Hey...I still can't sit through an entire viewing of Last Year at Marienbad, which would get me ostracized by most followers of this forum.

SpiderBaby · 09-16-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadFL

And if Jarmusch does focus on personalities he sure picked some poor ones.

Man, do I want you to check out Paul Morrissey's Trash.

BluLobsta · 09-16-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Juiceboxjerry

Well, now you can say you know a person that likes it (two, including rkish)

I'm curious why you didn't like it, other than that it was just "terrible". Was it the ending? A lot of people don't like it for that reason, saying it wasn't true to Kubrick's vision.

I go ga-ga for anything with an AI plot including AI

, I Robot, The Terminator franchise, Blade Runner, etc etc...I had courses in AI in school and also did some work on AUVs for Bob Ballard so I get as giddy as a meteorologist with a hurricane a-comin when I see a new movie of this type on Blu. Can't wait for AI, for sure a release day delivery

NOOB ALERT: So this packaging on Breathless is formally called a digipak

Illy Scorsese · 09-16-2010, 10:50 PM

It's gonna be a long wait for "Winter Light" and "High And Low" on Blu...

rkish · 09-16-2010, 11:08 PM

Since I'm home sick with "the flu"...I've been checking out a bunch of films on the stream.

Finally had time to watch Wages of Fear...only about 1/2 way through (had to take a pit stop), but it's better than I thought it would be. A bit slow in the beginning, but picked up steam quickly.

I might have to add this one during the November sale.

When I finish this one, it'll be The Last Picture show later tonight.

I did see it, but like Five Easy Pieces...it's been a lot of years!

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09-16-2010, 08:31 PM	#16321
ShellOilJunior Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:USA Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:10	Roger Ebert recently added Mystery Train to his greatest movies list. Good read.

09-16-2010, 08:53 PM	#16324
Cheerupemokid Active Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Brooklyn, NYC Blu-ray collection:182	Finally crossed one of my Criterion's off of the "must watch" list last Friday when my girlfriend and I sat down to watch Night Train To Munich. Fantastic film! I really did love everything about it. There are some great thrills, some serious laughs, and some awesome performances. I love British humor, so elements like Charters talking about how disappointed he is realizing now that Germany and England are at war he will never see his golf clubs again that he lent to a friend in Germany are hysterical to me. By the climax, I found myself at the edge of my couch (literally) waiting to see what would happen at last. So much fun to watch, and frankly I cannot wait to see it again. The short documentary on the disc was a great little treat post-film as well. I now know the history of the story and of Charters and Caldicott. If nothing else, it makes me want to rush out and pick up The Lady Vanishes just for more of those characters. I also love the politics and symbolism at play, which I don't know I would have picked up on entirely, so that was much appreciated. It is a bit crazy to me how this movie, which was celebrated as "top 10" best of the year when it came out, has kind of gone ignored in the decades since. There is very little I've found online about the film, and if it weren't for Criterion, I don't know that I would have ever heard of it. Love discovering new films like this because of them.

09-16-2010, 09:02 PM	#16326
Deviation Senior Member Member since:Nov 2009	I would have sworn that Night Train to Munich had been announced or leaked as a Blu-ray release from Criterion at some point but I can't find anything about it. I think I saw pre-order pages at B&N and Amazon, too. Am I hallucinating?

09-16-2010, 09:47 PM	#16335
Deviation Senior Member Member since:Nov 2009	A.I. is certainly flawed, but there were parts of it I really enjoyed.

09-16-2010, 10:50 PM	#16339
Illy Scorsese Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:New York Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:141 Trading Score:86	It's gonna be a long wait for "Winter Light" and "High And Low" on Blu...

09-16-2010, 11:08 PM	#16340
rkish Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2008 Location:Dutchess County New York Blu-ray collection:581 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:1	Since I'm home sick with "the flu"...I've been checking out a bunch of films on the stream. Finally had time to watch Wages of Fear...only about 1/2 way through (had to take a pit stop), but it's better than I thought it would be. A bit slow in the beginning, but picked up steam quickly. I might have to add this one during the November sale. When I finish this one, it'll be The Last Picture show later tonight. I did see it, but like Five Easy Pieces...it's been a lot of years!

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