well I agree that there was more 'cause I liked the movie until the ending-- but I still think this movie gets raves here because of the ending (based on the multiple posts going on and on about how great and daring it is)
and I completely disagree with comments about how it's against the normal Hollywood endings..... it's like everybody suddenly is comparing movies made in the 30's. 40's, and 50's! More than not today horror films hardly ever have upbeat endings where evil loses and "the guy gets the girl". Even if the move has a reasonably upbeat ending there usually is a coda thrown in at the very last minute to make it downbeat (in the Dawn Of The Dead remake they did this after the credits started rolling!!)
anyway, my 2 cents on a well worn subject.....
Well I do agree with that. Even though I think more times than not it's basically the same good guys win, bad guys lose scenario. I don't think Horror movies are really held to that standard, I can agree that most Horror movies do have the "Bad Guy" winning. I think that falls into the being into the slot of being predictable though. We pretty much know the scenario for horror movies, most of all the people die, usualy one escapes (usually female), the bad guy ususally comes back. I mean I don't really think the ending of "The Mist" is really all that predictable. I doubt it was thrown in there as a shocker so you can tell your friends you got to see this movie because the ending is wicked.
I know what you mean, and when I first saw the film I expected (nay, wanted)
[Show spoiler]the guy to rush out of the car, shooting every living thing with his last four bullets, and roughing it out in the wild!
As it is though, I understand the choice he made. I may not agree with it, and I certainly wouldn't have done it in his shoes, but this is a case where they were overwhelmed with hopelessness, and they went with a path that seemed to be the path of least resistance.
In that respect, I would say that's one aspect of human nature; we don't always face challenges, sometimes we take the easy way out. Like the people in the store; they thought that sacrificing the boy would be the way to go...
But I agree with Dark Moses that the bulk of the story and themes are throughout the middle of the movie, not necessarily at the ending.
I understand your logic and what he did is indeed possible in some circumtances for some people.
But
The problem is
[Show spoiler]that I didnt expect him to do that at alllllll, I was so shocked when I saw what he did to his son, I I think that If was Indeed planning to do it the movie was supposed to draw us to the same conclusion as he choose, but that act seemed a little out of context (under that circumtances it was just not that beleivable to me that he would do it, and that is a flow for a movie, not an advantage)
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I'm just curious how what I said has anything to do with what the ending was about?
[Show spoiler] I understand what you're saying, but what the ending was about and the ending being over the top are two different things. So yes, maybe the ending is about not giving up ,but what does that have to do with it being over the top like Marcus said? I don't think it was, it was basically there only option that seemed reasonable at that juncture. With that said, I was not giving my thought on that's how the movie ending was meant to be interpreted. I was merely stating why I thought the ending was not "Over the top" and not saying the ending was about giving up and killing everyone because that seems like the logical thing to do. I'm not sure how you inferred that but sorry.
You have no reason to apologize. I commented upon what Marcus said in one post and then I commented on your post, which seemed to clearly infer what I commented upon, in another post.
[Show spoiler]As to the suicide, I would never kill myself, even more would never kill my son if I had one simply make the sufferring less.
As to his situation, that was straight silly. I say they were all still alright and giving up hope like that was stupid.
I would better be eaten by spyders and suffer for 1 more minute than commit self-suicide.
I just don't think you can make an honest statement about that. I don't think any on us can honestly say if we would kill ourselves in that situation because we would never be placed in it. I don't think it's silly at all though.
[Show spoiler]He made a promise to his boy that he wouldn't let the monsters get him. It may sound crazy but to them they were at the end of the line. At least in the movies it seems people rather go and find death rather then wait for it. May sound stupid but if you're not in a situation like that, you can't honestly say you wouldn't do it. I really don't think it was that crazy. They had no food, water, gas, who knows how much longer it could of gone on. I can agree, they should of maybe waited a little longer before they did it and just shot everyone as soon as they ran out of gas but it's not like we could just watch them in the car for a few more hours. I'm just saying I don't think it was that crazy or silly for the ways things played out.
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Must have been the orange hair and the orange thingy she was wearing. Doesn't beat the red dress.
[Show spoiler]I’ve grown to enjoy this movie quite a bit. It has its share of style and action, making it adequately cool. Milla Jovovich is hot, and darn near perfect as the main character. What more could anybody ask for?
Story-wise, it seems a bit limited, and is actually somewhat formulaic (for a while it seemed like Paul WS Anderson made the same kind of movies: “Event Horizon,” “RE,” and “AvP” all have the exact same plot structure, where a bunch of commando-type characters go into some dark evil place and fight a bunch of dark evil things. Fun films, but not terribly inspiring). This story, however, has adequate characters and background to keep it relatively fresh, especially in context to the entire series. It does a decent job of setting up everything for the sequels (especially in the last moments).
The film is well-made; the photography is solid and has a lot of cool-looking shots. Production value appears adequate, although the SFX are showing their age. My only big complaint is that the writing is a little weak and the editing seems a little screwy at some parts. And the music, though erratic, totally rocks.
4/5 (entertainment: 4/5, story: 4/5, film: 4/5)
This Blu-Ray looks great in many spots, but weaker in others. It’s sharp most of the way through, with maybe a handful of soft-looking shots. Some shots have a lot of noise, and others look really clear. I guess you could say it’s inconsistent, but it’s still mostly pleasing. Sound quality is adequate, but the music tends to drown out the voices.
PQ: 3.5/5, AQ: 3.5/5
“Resident Evil: Apocalypse”
At the time this came out, it seemed like one of the most badass movies ever, and I immediately loved it. Recently, I saw the official review on this website (2.5/5, bleh!), and I’m starting to see the weak spots. Yes, parts of this film are really absurd; a little too much deus ex machina, as Alice seems to burst through and save the day at least twice, when she rightfully shouldn’t have even been there. The editing is a little screwy here and there, the dialogue is not the greatest, and the actions scenes (despite their imagination and greatness) are pretty jittery.
However, the entertainment value remains, and that’s all that’s important here. What could be more awesome than seeing a hulking ten-foot-tall giant with a minigun and rocket launcher blasting the hell out of everything, while Alice and the gang kung-fu-kick their way through hoards of zombies? Ah yeah!
As a story, I think this film is pretty strong. It expands on the first film really well, enlarging the scope and scale while remaining faithful to what was established beforehand. The new characters are quite fun, even if they are a bit shallow.
As a film, “RE 2” is very slick. Aside from some chaotic action scenes, the photography is very solid and interesting. The production value is very high.
4.5/5 (entertainment: 5/5, story: 4/5, film: 4/5)
This Blu-Ray looks darn near perfect; some parts show a bit of noise, but it’s a very slick picture nonetheless, coming close to reference quality. Sound quality seemed a little low, but it probably works better on a high-end sound system.
PQ: 4.5/5, AQ: 4/5
“Resident Evil: Extinction”
Starts off promising, and it certainly has its fair share of awesome action scenes. There are just a few things that don’t really jive with me personally (chief among them being the continuity between this film and the last. They explained away what happens to the world, but never explained how Alice got separated from everyone else). Some parts are pretty absurd too (Alice clones……and one impressive chain-link fence holding back hoards of zombies…).
But in the end, I find this film entertaining. It has an interesting-enough story, and there are parts about it that I love. The characters don’t really stand out to me, but I like
[Show spoiler]how Alice grows less human the more she goes on. And she got some awesome superpowers
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The film has some very nice photography and a very high production value. What’s not to like?
I wonder if “Resident Evil: Afterlife” is still playing… I’ll probably buy it when it comes out anyway.
The first one was well done and the best of the bunch by far. Terrifying, thrilling, and a crapload of zombies (as well as zombie dogs). As the virus spreads, so does the madness. Fantastic and still one of my favorites. You have the hope of containment and survival that seems pointless in any of the sequels.
Resident Evil: Apocalypse is where they start pulling back on the horror and implementing more action, yet forgivable because it was the most faithful character-wise (they did Jill and Nemesis proper justice imo).
In the third, Resident Evil: Extinction, they scrapped the horror aspect that every RE game centered on and just went all out action and it didn't offer much, especially going in the direction that it did. Cool action scenes though, but ultimately much weaker than the first two.
In Resident Evil: Afterlife, not only do you get no horror, there are barely any zombies. And it's basically filmed exclusively for 3-D because I can't imagine making any sense out of the shots any other way. The film's greatest potential asset, Wesker, is in a total of like one half of one scene... the entirety of which you've seen in the trailers. Even Jill Valentine was promoted as being in the film but you don't even see her until AFTER the credits, and with an extreme makeover. The rage... and I haven't even got to the worst part. The story serves no purpose whatsoever. As a matter of fact, there is no story. It's just Milla going around being a badass, meeting some people trying to survive, then back to square one. If it was a TV show, I would call that a filler episode. But it's an entire movie. Really?
You have no reason to apologize. I commented upon what Marcus said in one post and then I commented on your post, which seemed to clearly infer what I commented upon, in another post.
Except I didn't comment about how I interperted the ending, only how I saw it was not, once again "Over the top". You have a good point though, I never really looked at it that way.
I just don't think you can make an honest statement about that. I don't think any on us can honestly say if we would kill ourselves in that situation because we would never be placed in it. I don't think it's silly at all though.
[Show spoiler]He made a promise to his boy that he wouldn't let the monsters get him. It may sound crazy but to them they were at the end of the line. At least in the movies it seems people rather go and find death rather then wait for it. May sound stupid but if you're not in a situation like that, you can't honestly say you wouldn't do it. I really don't think it was that crazy. They had no food, water, gas, who knows how much longer it could of gone on. I can agree, they should of maybe waited a little longer before they did it and just shot everyone as soon as they ran out of gas but it's not like we could just watch them in the car for a few more hours. I'm just saying I don't think it was that crazy or silly for the ways things played out.
I like the movie throughout a lot like you, and ending was not important to me to tell the truth, it was the overall movie that I liked just like you.
As to the ending, The problem is
[Show spoiler]that I didnt expect him to do that at alllllll, I was so shocked when I saw what he did to his son, I I think that If was Indeed planning to do it the movie was supposed to draw us to the same conclusion as he choose, but that act seemed a little out of context (under that circumtances it was just not that beleivable to me that he would do it, and that is a flow for a movie, not an advantage)
I like the movie throughout a lot like you, and ending was not important to me to tell the truth, it was the overall movie that I liked just like you.
As to the ending, The problem is
[Show spoiler]that I didnt expect him to do that at alllllll, I was so shocked when I saw what he did to his son, I I think that If was Indeed planning to do it the movie was supposed to draw us to the same conclusion as he choose, but that act seemed a little out of context (under that circumtances it was just not that beleivable to me that he would do it, and that is a flow for a movie, not an advantage)
I understand man, I think everyone looks at it differently.
[Show spoiler] I just don't think it was too "Out there" it seemed reasonable and the easiet way out at the time for them. It may seem crazy that David shot his son but in a weird sense he promised him he wouldn't let the monsters get to him. In they're shoes, all hope was gone. Sure the outcome was shocking but and maybe doesn't seem like the most appropiate I suppose, but I look at it like it this. They thought they were going to die either way, so it was die or wait to die. It's just ironic that as soon as they blow themselves away the mist goes away and rescue shows up. I guess I can sort of agree with Jhiggy, since now I remember the woman that was in the store from the beginning that had to get her children. She was on one of the trucks and she didn't care about going into the fog, nothing could stop her from helping her children. I guess it just goes to show you.
The first one was well done and the best of the bunch by far. Terrifying, thrilling, and a crapload of zombies (as well as zombie dogs). As the virus spreads, so does the madness. Fantastic and still one of my favorites. You have the hope of containment and survival that seems pointless in any of the sequels.
Resident Evil: Apocalypse is where they start pulling back on the horror and implementing more action, yet forgivable because it was the most faithful character-wise (they did Jill and Nemesis proper justice imo).
In the third, Resident Evil: Extinction, they scrapped the horror aspect that every RE game centered on and just went all out action and it didn't offer much, especially going in the direction that it did. Cool action scenes though, but ultimately much weaker than the first two.
In Resident Evil: Afterlife, not only do you get no horror, there are barely any zombies. And it's basically filmed exclusively for 3-D because I can't imagine making any sense out of the shots any other way. The film's greatest potential asset, Wesker, is in a total of like one half of one scene... the entirety of which you've seen in the trailers. Even Jill Valentine was promoted as being in the film but you don't even see her until AFTER the credits, and with an extreme makeover. The rage... and I haven't even got to the worst part. The story serves no purpose whatsoever. As a matter of fact, there is no story. It's just Milla going around being a badass, meeting some people trying to survive, then back to square one. If it was a TV show, I would call that a filler episode. But it's an entire movie. Really?
Right on! Thanks for the review on "RE: Afterlife." Doesn't sound super-great, but "Milla going around being a badass" will probably be worth my time.
I like the movie throughout a lot like you, and ending was not important to me to tell the truth, it was the overall movie that I liked just like you.
As to the ending, The problem is
[Show spoiler]that I didnt expect him to do that at alllllll, I was so shocked when I saw what he did to his son, I I think that If was Indeed planning to do it the movie was supposed to draw us to the same conclusion as he choose, but that act seemed a little out of context (under that circumstances it was just not that believable to me that he would do it, and that is a flow for a movie, not an advantage)
So would you let
[Show spoiler]your son die a gruesome death or make it painless
Just to prove something ill show you how its NOT over the top.
A mother
[Show spoiler]Murdered her 2 son's that had Huntington's disease. They were both in their 40's and this disease basically kills you slowly. Her husband died from the same disease and she didnt want her son's to go through the same pain as her husband so she Murdered them. Of course the charge was dropped to assistant suicide but its the same concept.
Here's the link if you need verification Sh1t Happens
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I understand man, I think everyone looks at it differently.
[Show spoiler] I just don't think it was too "Out there" it seemed reasonable and the easiet way out at the time for them. It may seem crazy that David shot his son but in a weird sense he promised him he wouldn't let the monsters get to him. In they're shoes, all hope was gone. Sure the outcome was shocking but and maybe doesn't seem like the most appropiate I suppose, but I look at it like it this. They thought they were going to die either way, so it was die or wait to die. It's just ironic that as soon as they blow themselves away the mist goes away and rescue shows up. I guess I can sort of agree with Jhiggy, since now I remember the woman that was in the store from the beginning that had to get her children. She was on one of the trucks and she didn't care about going into the fog, nothing could stop her from helping her children. I guess it just goes to show you.
check out my last post. Really explains it all. Well i think so of course.
check out my last post. Really explains it all. Well i think so of course.
Well
[Show spoiler] I'm not really sure how to interpert it. I mean sure it could be about not losing hope but I think in they're minds they did all they could. They left the store, hoping to get out of the mist. Which they didn't, they were out of gas and they had no way of telling how much further the mist went. It's not like they could of just got out of the car because they would got picked off by some random creature. In my mind I was thinking they could of waited till it seemed they were in real danger to kill themselves, but I think nobody wants to wait to die. I guess I'm both sides of it. I'm just not really sure any more...
Umimpressive for the most part, although some scenes in the beginning are pretty good.
AQ: no rating
I think I had some technical issue because the music on the home screen was basically inaudible and the sound effects in the movie were unbelievably loud while everything else was fine. It was a weird experience.
Like Everlasting Moments, I think El Norte is one of the overlooked Criterion films. Neither are as well known as 8 1/2, The Thin Red Line, Seven Samurai, Paris, Texas, or many others. However, both are among the finest released on Criterion blu because of the human stories they tell and the reality of these stories. El Norte is a harrowing and deeply moving piece that is beautifully filmed and directed. The writing I found to be very good, not hitting you over the head with social commentary, but still finding ways to incorporate some policy. The acting, however, is what stood out to me (Ebert actually mentions it in his review as well). Both leads seem so genuine, so real in their emotions and facial expressions. You feel like they are actually living this story and that's a rare thing to see on screen. Even the best performances, such as Plainview, still seem to be manufactured. Not here. This is reality in its purest form.
I've gone on record as stating that the Sundance sensation Sin Nombre was one of my top 2 films of last year and I stand by that. Ebert's review of the film makes reference to El Norte, although I don't think the films are very similar at all--they are extremely different. He does say, however, that the journey in El Norte is brutal but the journey in Sin Nombre is one forged in hell. Just a plug if you're on the fence about seeing the incredible Sin Nombre.
Highly recommended (and will be buying at the Criterion sale, along with the others I've listed).
Umimpressive for the most part, although some scenes in the beginning are pretty good.
AQ: no rating
I think I had some technical issue because the music on the home screen was basically inaudible and the sound effects in the movie were unbelievably loud while everything else was fine. It was a weird experience.
Like Everlasting Moments, I think El Norte is one of the overlooked Criterion films. Neither are as well known as 8 1/2, The Thin Red Line, Seven Samurai, Paris, Texas, or many others. However, both are among the finest released on Criterion blu because of the human stories they tell and the reality of these stories. El Norte is a harrowing and deeply moving piece that is beautifully filmed and directed. The writing I found to be very good, not hitting you over the head with social commentary, but still finding ways to incorporate some policy. The acting, however, is what stood out to me (Ebert actually mentions it in his review as well). Both leads seem so genuine, so real in their emotions and facial expressions. You feel like they are actually living this story and that's a rare thing to see on screen. Even the best performances, such as Plainview, still seem to be manufactured. Not here. This is reality in its purest form.
I've gone on record as stating that the Sundance sensation Sin Nombre was one of my top 2 films of last year and I stand by that. Ebert's review of the film makes reference to El Norte, although I don't think the films are very similar at all--they are extremely different. He does say, however, that the journey in El Norte is brutal but the journey in Sin Nombre is one forged in hell. Just a plug if you're on the fence about seeing the incredible Sin Nombre.
Highly recommended (and will be buying at the Criterion sale, along with the others I've listed).
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I almost bought this one too. D@mn. Well ill put it with the next list. Sounds great. I wanna experience this different way of grabbing my attention.
In the third, Resident Evil: Extinction, they scrapped the horror aspect that every RE game centered on and just went all out action and it didn't offer much, especially going in the direction that it did. Cool action scenes though, but ultimately much weaker than the first two.
ironically enough Capcom seemed to take exactly what you said here and applied it to Resident Evil 5 (the game). almost the exact same desert-like setting as well. and that game was crap
Last Year at Marienbad is on my "Hmm..I need to check this out one day" list.
When I read your review it made me want to watch it. Like you said, its just flat out enjoyable
They were $13 each last Black Friday, so they could easily be $10 this year...or less
The audio on them will rock your socks off...even if you aren't wearing any
Once you reach into the Vin Diesel Catalog again (), like I've mentioned before to you, take a look at Pitch Black if you go outside the Fast and Furious franchise.
Squid can vouch for the Riddick movies
Bearcat, you must see PITCH BLACK.
I love Chronicles too, but that seems to have less uniform love.
"Smurfdoosh" hahaha I literally lol'd at this for about 5 straight minutes absolutely hysterical!
And ironically enough I even thought to myself about half way through, "I could easily take this film as extremely pretentious" but I guess I looked at the film the 'other way'. I think some films have a very thin line with audiences and how they perceive them. I'm sure a lot of my friends would see this as boring pretentious trash, but I did not. But a year ago? I'd probably say yes. Odd how that works when you open up to new types of films
I flat out didnt "get it". I thought its style was too weird, but when I discovered that I didnt even undestand what it was about, its style is probably perfect for what is actually taking place.
Right on! Thanks for the review on "RE: Afterlife." Doesn't sound super-great, but "Milla going around being a badass" will probably be worth my time.
That's good then
I felt obligated to lower expectations having seen the movie. If anything, the only reason it was made (besides milking the franchise) is for the Milla fans. Just to point out though, Milla kicking butt can make a very enjoyable movie (Ultraviolet), but this one is garbage.
I know my opinion is much different when it comes to the Resident Evil movies but here is the order i put them in.
Resident Evil 5/5
Resident Evil Extinction 4/5
Resident Evil Afterlife 3/5
Resident Evil Apocalypse 3/5 almost a 2/5 i just don't get why people think this one is the best
ironically enough Capcom seemed to take exactly what you said here and applied it to Resident Evil 5 (the game). almost the exact same desert-like setting as well. and that game was crap
Yea I realize that
I have the collector's edition from when it was released but haven't even had the time to play it yet. RE 1-4 were all classics imo though. Each one exceeded the last but they're all great in their own way.
Being a fan of the games, I feel fans who have actually experienced what RE is about should be the target audience for the movies. Unfortunately, Paul W.S. Anderson is too far along his little tangent to remember that anymore.
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