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Malik True · 10-11-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyger

Since Nolan has said the next Batman movie will be his last, I thought it'd be more interesting to speculate and I suppose wish for the next take on Batman.

I'd love it if Zack Snyder got to do The Dark Knight Returns, if only because I can't believe nobody ever actually just adapts an existing book. That and so no future movies will borrow from it and we'll get something new.

I'd also really love to see Nightwing and Tim Drake as Robin. I think the whole franchise thing has kind of limited the character(s)/stories on film so far, I think more one-and-done's in different eras and styles could be more interesting.

What do you guys want?

This is easy leave the franchise alone, don't make anymore. NOW we know that's not going to happen and whomever takes the helm has the deck stacked against him. While I am in the minority in believing that Burton's vision and Keaton's Batman is better, which direction should the franchise go in?

If you think about it the franchise has to go darker, any other direction would be met with scorn, ridicule and mockery. Look at Batman Arkham Asylum it does not look cookie cutter does it? The envelope will need to pushed, this is how franchises are going. The new Bond is darker, the new Superman will be darker, there will be an R-rated Batman or Superman one day it's only a matter of time and when that Batman garners all the attention folks are going to reference it as the definitive Batman over Nolan's. You can see the "definitive" reference coming from the new Superman now...

ArrestedDevelopment · 10-11-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kefrank

I'd like to see a live-action Batman Beyond film franchise.

Yep, me too.

ArmyOfDarknessAW · 10-11-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Malik True

This is easy leave the franchise alone, don't make anymore. NOW we know that's not going to happen and whomever takes the helm has the deck stacked against him. While I am in the minority in believing that Burton's vision and Keaton's Batman is better, which direction should the franchise go in?

If you think about it the franchise has to go darker, any other direction would be met with scorn, ridicule and mockery. Look at Batman Arkham Asylum it does not look cookie cutter does it? The enveloped will need to pushed, this is how franchises are going. The new Bond is darker, the new Superman will be darker, there will be an R-rated Batman or Superman one day it's only a matter of time and when that Batman garners all the attention folks are going to reference it as the definitive Batman over Nolan's. You can see the "definitive" reference coming from the new Superman now...

I agree with you on much of what you said but i really do not see an R rated Batman or Superman ever being made. I am only talking live action big screen movies not the direct to DVD/Blu movies that come out now. I am ok with them staying in PG-13 world becuase it fits the characters fine.

ArmyOfDarknessAW · 10-11-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by batman713

Yep, me too.

Me three.

Batman Beyond was a great TV show i can't wait for the complete series boxset.

supersix4 · 10-11-2010, 08:08 PM

I just can't see him leaving if this movie goes over a billion dollars like TDK.

ArmyOfDarknessAW · 10-11-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by supersix4

I just can't see him leaving if this movie goes over a billion dollars like TDK.

I can because Nolan is a guy who likes to stick to his guns and his vision was a trilogy i think after this is done massive success or not.

Fabio13 · 10-11-2010, 09:05 PM

Though I´m really sorry the next one is probably Nolans last, I´m ready for another directors take on Batman.

If we want too keep the tone of todays Batman, I think Michael Mann is the man. It would most certainly not give us any of the "weird" villians, but we would get alot of Batmans inner struggle.

Another interesting take would be David Finchers Batman. His nihilstic style in Gotham. Goosebumps...

Guillermo Del Toro... He knows how too bring our world into a fantasy world. And you know he´ll have fun between all the Gargoyles in Gotham.

500_Days_of_Night · 10-12-2010, 03:23 AM

I'd love to see the Knightfall story arc on film... or at least the main part of it. I think it's be an awesome sight to see a whole slew of villain cameos during the Arkham Asylum breakout. Then, after they've been caught... the Bane/Batman showdown with Batman getting his back broken.

That story would definitely take more than one film in order to do it justice, but I'd love to see it. Zack Snyder would be my top choice to do it, but I'm sure there's others out there that could make a killer Batman film if given the chance.

Tyger · 10-17-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

Me three.

Batman Beyond was a great TV show i can't wait for the complete series boxset.

I 4th a Batman Beyond movie/franchise, I think it could be really cool and it was one of the many ideas between Batman & Robin and Batman Begins

bestever23 · 10-17-2010, 09:56 AM

I hate batman beyond, I HATE BATMAN BEYOND! I was thinking Zack snyder was going to direct the Batman franchise after Nolan but now with him doing Superman that's off the table so I dunno but I do want to see robin in the franchise, who knows? I have a feeling they'll try to copy nolan alot

ArmyOfDarknessAW · 10-17-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bestever23

I hate batman beyond, I HATE BATMAN BEYOND! I was thinking Zack snyder was going to direct the Batman franchise after Nolan but now with him doing Superman that's off the table so I dunno but I do want to see robin in the franchise, who knows? I have a feeling they'll try to copy nolan alot

This is a wild shot in the dark but I am pretty sure you hate Batman Beyond.

I also have zero and I mean zero interest inseeing Robin.

Beast · 10-17-2010, 01:02 PM

Hopefully after Nolan, we'll get a reboot and someone will actually make good Batman films for a change.

X12Celtics3 · 10-17-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

I can because Nolan is a guy who likes to stick to his guns and his vision was a trilogy i think after this is done massive success or not.

I don't think his vision was a trilogy, as he didn't even seem certain at first that he wanted to make another Batman movie after The Dark Knight. However, I do think that he will walk away from the series once he has nothing else meaningful to add to it, and that will likely be after this third movie.

Esox50 · 10-17-2010, 01:58 PM

This is too depressing to even think about.

I am just going to enjoy the build up from now until July 2012 when we get Nolan's third Batman movie. After that, I'll worry about where it goes from there. Maybe Nolan won't direct it himself, but perhaps Goyer or Jonah Nolan can keep it going (with C-Nolan as an "adviser" in similar capacity to his role on Superman).

vegeta88 · 10-17-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

Hopefully after Nolan, we'll get a reboot and someone will actually make good Batman films for a change.

What kind of reboot are you looking for? I am hoping for something more like Batman Returns to Batman Forever in the sense that they didn't have to start over, but clearly the franchise took a new direction; though, I would say it wouldn't need to keep some of the actors like that transition did.

Tyger · 10-17-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vegeta88

What kind of reboot are you looking for? I am hoping for something more like Batman Returns to Batman Forever in the sense that they didn't have to start over, but clearly the franchise took a new direction; though, I would say it wouldn't need to keep some of the actors like that transition did.

I disagree, total reboot (which does not mean origin stories forever). I hate that Burtons movies are lumped in with Schumachers because they didn't officially reboot. I think each take should stand onits own and not be related to somebody else's vision.

Beast · 10-17-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyger

I disagree, total reboot (which does not mean origin stories forever). I hate that Burtons movies are lumped in with Schumachers because they didn't officially reboot. I think each take should stand onits own and not be related to somebody else's vision.

Indeed. Hell, Burton's Batman isn't even really an origin story.

Yes, it covers it a bit by showing the death of the Wayne family. But it cuts to the chase.

It didn't need nearly 2 and a half hours like Batman Begins to tell Batman's origins. It did it just fine.

Sure, it was sort of an origin story for The Joker. But then, Batman's villains are more interesting anyway.

Jimmy Smith · 10-17-2010, 07:53 PM

Post Nolan should be a Batman that exists in a greater DC universe rather then in a realistic Superhero free world. Post-Nolan should be an older seasoned veteren who can hold his own onscreen with Superman and The Flash.

vegeta88 · 10-17-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Post Nolan should be a Batman that exists in a greater DC universe rather then in a realistic Superhero free world. Post-Nolan should be an older seasoned veteren who can hold his own onscreen with Superman and The Flash.

That would be fine by me. I like the idea of a more seasoned Batman on-screen. I also think it would be a good idea to at least have Batman be open to a larger universe so if a Justice League movie is in the works, film-makers do not have to worry about properties being tied up.

SixSpeedSamurai · 10-18-2010, 02:03 AM

Matthew Vaughn. I think he could do a heck of a job with a proper Robin origin.

Brad Bird. I think just as Nolan was a left field pick at the time, Bird would be as well.

My fear is they'll give it to Goyer, but if one of the Nolan brothers co-writes it, it may not be so bad.

10-11-2010, 09:05 PM	#27
Fabio13 Active Member Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:377	The next caped director Though I´m really sorry the next one is probably Nolans last, I´m ready for another directors take on Batman. If we want too keep the tone of todays Batman, I think Michael Mann is the man. It would most certainly not give us any of the "weird" villians, but we would get alot of Batmans inner struggle. Another interesting take would be David Finchers Batman. His nihilstic style in Gotham. Goosebumps... Guillermo Del Toro... He knows how too bring our world into a fantasy world. And you know he´ll have fun between all the Gargoyles in Gotham.

10-11-2010, 08:08 PM	#25
supersix4 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews: 53 Trading Score:3	I just can't see him leaving if this movie goes over a billion dollars like TDK.

10-12-2010, 03:23 AM	#28
500_Days_of_Night Senior Member Member since:Mar 2010 Location:E-town 4K collection:152 Blu-ray collection:324 Trading Score:2	I'd love to see the Knightfall story arc on film... or at least the main part of it. I think it's be an awesome sight to see a whole slew of villain cameos during the Arkham Asylum breakout. Then, after they've been caught... the Bane/Batman showdown with Batman getting his back broken. That story would definitely take more than one film in order to do it justice, but I'd love to see it. Zack Snyder would be my top choice to do it, but I'm sure there's others out there that could make a killer Batman film if given the chance.

10-17-2010, 09:56 AM	#30
bestever23 Senior Member Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Arizona	I hate batman beyond, I HATE BATMAN BEYOND! I was thinking Zack snyder was going to direct the Batman franchise after Nolan but now with him doing Superman that's off the table so I dunno but I do want to see robin in the franchise, who knows? I have a feeling they'll try to copy nolan alot

10-17-2010, 01:02 PM	#32
Beast Blu-ray Champion Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:376 Blu-ray reviews:3	Hopefully after Nolan, we'll get a reboot and someone will actually make good Batman films for a change.

10-17-2010, 01:58 PM	#34
Esox50 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 4K collection:416 Blu-ray collection:488	This is too depressing to even think about. I am just going to enjoy the build up from now until July 2012 when we get Nolan's third Batman movie. After that, I'll worry about where it goes from there. Maybe Nolan won't direct it himself, but perhaps Goyer or Jonah Nolan can keep it going (with C-Nolan as an "adviser" in similar capacity to his role on Superman).

10-17-2010, 07:53 PM	#38
Jimmy Smith Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2008 Blu-ray collection:17	Post Nolan should be a Batman that exists in a greater DC universe rather then in a realistic Superhero free world. Post-Nolan should be an older seasoned veteren who can hold his own onscreen with Superman and The Flash.

10-18-2010, 02:03 AM	#40
SixSpeedSamurai Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Apr 2010 Location:Bruce Wayne lives in my attic 4K collection:168 Blu-ray collection:667 DVD collection:33 MA collection:2 Digital collection:267 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:33	Matthew Vaughn. I think he could do a heck of a job with a proper Robin origin. Brad Bird. I think just as Nolan was a left field pick at the time, Bird would be as well. My fear is they'll give it to Goyer, but if one of the Nolan brothers co-writes it, it may not be so bad.

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