Seven Samurai (1954) - Page 8 - Blu-ray Forum

greekak229 · 10-19-2010, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zahinn

I wonder where I can pick this up physically. It seems no store around me is carrying it.

As said before, Barnes & Noble is your best bet. If not, Amazon it is. Either one works.

hedliniv · 10-20-2010, 02:13 AM

Ok I need help as I am very confused. Could anyone please help me? I have a Denon-1910 and a Oppo BD-83

I just bought Seven Samurai on Blu-ray and I get no blue light (actually I can't tell if it is playing the audio properly) as it is just displaying Dolby on dvdbeaver it states this...

*Regarding the track discrepancy - Criterion have replied to me: "The stereo surround track on our disc is indeed encoded as 2 channel linear PCM and should be DTS HD-Master Audio 2.0." That said, "The viewer's experience is essentially the same here. Both lossless codecs result in 2 channel linear PCMs being output to the receiver, the only difference being that the lossy DTS core of the DTS HD-MA stream (which viewers with older, non HDMI 1.3 equipped receivers would hear) carries a Dolby Pro Logic flag that triggers surround decoding of the stereo track by their receivers. Anyone listening to a lossless stereo surround (aka LT/RT, Dolby Pro Logic) track needs to manually engage Pro Logic decoding as PCMs can't carry that flag."

What does this actually mean?

How do I manually engage Pro-logic decoding?

Any help or insight would be appreciated!!

manicsounds · 10-20-2010, 06:24 AM

just press the prologic button on your receiver when you play the 2.0 track

hedliniv · 10-20-2010, 12:15 PM

That you for the suggestion. I am trying to do this on a denon 1910 / 690 and unfortunately there is no specific button. Any denon owners that could walk me through how to do this?

ccfixx · 10-20-2010, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hedliniv

That you for the suggestion. I am trying to do this on a denon 1910 / 690 and unfortunately there is no specific button. Any denon owners that could walk me through how to do this?

Have you posted your question in the Hardware/Receivers section, yet, hedliniv? You might get a quicker response over there.

CC

hedliniv · 10-20-2010, 12:58 PM

I have however I thought there may be someone with the same situation here - I apologize for cluttering the thread.

George

Rob71 · 10-20-2010, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zahinn

I wonder where I can pick this up physically. It seems no store around me is carrying it.

If you have a Movie Stop near you they might. The one near me gets Criterions in pretty regular.

shinseiRomeo · 10-20-2010, 03:32 PM

Just a heads up: There's a slight possibility this applies only to my district, but it seems Best Buy is not carrying Seven Samurai, at least not yet. The SKU is an online only product and no stores in my district are even receiving this in.

Cookson · 10-20-2010, 04:13 PM

Dont most of us use Amazon anyway? I know there's people who don't... but like 90% of us probably do use Amazon. Actually, after I think about it... there was no reason for me to say that. LOL

Anyway, I'm getting the blu of SS for Christmas along with a few other great blu titles!!

G:Box · 10-20-2010, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookson

Dont most of us use Amazon anyway? I know there's people who don't... but like 90% of us probably do use Amazon. Actually, after I think about it... there was no reason for me to say that. LOL

Anyway, I'm getting the blu of SS for Christmas along with a few other great blu titles!!

I wish I had your patience and self discipline. I cant wait more than a week to get a must have...something's wrong with me

Zen_Amako · 10-20-2010, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinseiromeo

Just a heads up: There's a slight possibility this applies only to my district, but it seems Best Buy is not carrying Seven Samurai, at least not yet. The SKU is an online only product and no stores in my district are even receiving this in.

It's not only your district. It would seem BB is not carrying this in store.

It's a little strange, since they did carry titles like Crumb and Red Desert (as well as Yojimbo/Sanjuro). It must be part of their new directive to shrink the media section.

P@t_Mtl · 10-20-2010, 05:16 PM

Not sure if it's the same everwhere but I got email this morning from Amazon.ca and I had it on pre-order but they are now telling me it wil lship only Oct. 29th.

Bluyoda · 10-20-2010, 08:39 PM

OK, so now I am really confused:

The review on this site is very favorable to Seven Samurai, but the review on

HighDefDigest is like the exact opposite.

Here is the link:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/3495/sevensamurai.html

So, what's the truth?

It's usually in between, isn't it?

Have any of you seen it yet?

What's the quality like?

Are there any serious PQ/AQ issues?

Please let us know!

Thanks a million! Much appreciated!

Beta Man · 10-20-2010, 08:50 PM

Didn't notice any serious AQ issues.

Several lines, etc.. that are basically print damage I'm assuming, but aside from that, the amount of detail throughout is phenomenal. I'd certainly say that this runs circles around the previous Criterion DVD presentation (which was still pretty great at the time)

octagon · 10-20-2010, 09:01 PM

This caught my eye in the Highdefdigest review...

"Dialogue sometimes has a problem with clarity and distinction..."

At the risk of sounding like the stereotypical Ugly American I have a hard time believing any non-native speaker could distinguish clear, distinct Japanese dialogue from unclear, indistinct Japanese dialogue.

John Belushi Samurai Dry Cleaner routines aside, I've seen a lot of Kurosawa movies over the years and I long ago gave up on Japanese diagogue being more than a blur to me.

Banned User · 10-20-2010, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen_Amako

It's not only your district. It would seem BB is not carrying this in store.

It's a little strange, since they did carry titles like Crumb and Red Desert (as well as Yojimbo/Sanjuro). It must be part of their new directive to shrink the media section.

I've noticed a lot of the special titles like older movies or art films are not carried initially at all 3 of the bestbuys around me. Eventually they do get a copy or two. I have a feeling they place very small orders and when they don't sell they ship them around to their other stores.

monque · 10-22-2010, 10:13 PM

Just placed my order from Barnes & Noble. Grand total of $28.51 after applying the 15% promo discount.

pro-bassoonist · 10-22-2010, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

So, what's the truth?

The truth is that the film does look and sound amazing. And anyone who would argue that the presentation does not deserve praise, most certainly isn't familiar with the film's history, as well as the different releases it has seen during the years.

Order with confidence!

Pro-B

Ace_BB6 · 10-23-2010, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

I can't wait to own this one on Blu-ray! It's going to be a blind buy for me.

At least, I don't remember having seen it, although I have seen a lot of Kurosawa movies.

Either way, I know it's going to be more than worth it!

How did that happen? Almost like saying I love Nintendo buy I haven't played a Mario game. Definitely one of the best films ever.

zahinn · 10-25-2010, 01:27 AM

I was wondering, will Barnes and Nobles price match their stuff with Amazon?

10-20-2010, 12:15 PM	#144
hedliniv Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Odessa, FL 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:373 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:499 Blu-ray reviews:13 Trading Score:262	That you for the suggestion. I am trying to do this on a denon 1910 / 690 and unfortunately there is no specific button. Any denon owners that could walk me through how to do this? Last edited by hedliniv; 10-20-2010 at 12:30 PM.

10-20-2010, 08:39 PM	#153
Bluyoda Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Dagobah Home Theater Gallery:103 4K collection:160 Blu-ray collection:1383 Blu-ray reviews: 263 Trading Score:4	OK, so now I am confused!.... OK, so now I am really confused: The review on this site is very favorable to Seven Samurai, but the review on HighDefDigest is like the exact opposite. Here is the link: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/3495/sevensamurai.html So, what's the truth? It's usually in between, isn't it? Have any of you seen it yet? What's the quality like? Are there any serious PQ/AQ issues? Please let us know! Thanks a million! Much appreciated!

10-20-2010, 02:13 AM	#142
hedliniv Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Odessa, FL 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:373 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:499 Blu-ray reviews:13 Trading Score:262	Ok I need help as I am very confused. Could anyone please help me? I have a Denon-1910 and a Oppo BD-83 I just bought Seven Samurai on Blu-ray and I get no blue light (actually I can't tell if it is playing the audio properly) as it is just displaying Dolby on dvdbeaver it states this... *Regarding the track discrepancy - Criterion have replied to me: "The stereo surround track on our disc is indeed encoded as 2 channel linear PCM and should be DTS HD-Master Audio 2.0." That said, "The viewer's experience is essentially the same here. Both lossless codecs result in 2 channel linear PCMs being output to the receiver, the only difference being that the lossy DTS core of the DTS HD-MA stream (which viewers with older, non HDMI 1.3 equipped receivers would hear) carries a Dolby Pro Logic flag that triggers surround decoding of the stereo track by their receivers. Anyone listening to a lossless stereo surround (aka LT/RT, Dolby Pro Logic) track needs to manually engage Pro Logic decoding as PCMs can't carry that flag." What does this actually mean? How do I manually engage Pro-logic decoding? Any help or insight would be appreciated!!

10-20-2010, 06:24 AM	#143
manicsounds Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Tokyo 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:4992 Blu-ray reviews: 99	just press the prologic button on your receiver when you play the 2.0 track

10-20-2010, 12:58 PM	#146
hedliniv Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Odessa, FL 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:373 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:499 Blu-ray reviews:13 Trading Score:262	I have however I thought there may be someone with the same situation here - I apologize for cluttering the thread. George

10-20-2010, 03:32 PM	#148
shinseiRomeo Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jun 2010 Location:US Blu-ray collection:1179 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:30	Just a heads up: There's a slight possibility this applies only to my district, but it seems Best Buy is not carrying Seven Samurai, at least not yet. The SKU is an online only product and no stores in my district are even receiving this in.

10-20-2010, 04:13 PM	#149
Cookson Active Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:112 Blu-ray reviews:5	Dont most of us use Amazon anyway? I know there's people who don't... but like 90% of us probably do use Amazon. Actually, after I think about it... there was no reason for me to say that. LOL Anyway, I'm getting the blu of SS for Christmas along with a few other great blu titles!!

10-20-2010, 05:16 PM	#152
P@t_Mtl Blu-ray Duke Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Montreal Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:452 DVD collection:513 Trading Score:3	Not sure if it's the same everwhere but I got email this morning from Amazon.ca and I had it on pre-order but they are now telling me it wil lship only Oct. 29th.

10-20-2010, 08:50 PM	#154
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	Didn't notice any serious AQ issues. Several lines, etc.. that are basically print damage I'm assuming, but aside from that, the amount of detail throughout is phenomenal. I'd certainly say that this runs circles around the previous Criterion DVD presentation (which was still pretty great at the time)

10-20-2010, 09:01 PM	#155
octagon Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Chicago 4K collection:255 Blu-ray collection:2799	This caught my eye in the Highdefdigest review... "Dialogue sometimes has a problem with clarity and distinction..." At the risk of sounding like the stereotypical Ugly American I have a hard time believing any non-native speaker could distinguish clear, distinct Japanese dialogue from unclear, indistinct Japanese dialogue. John Belushi Samurai Dry Cleaner routines aside, I've seen a lot of Kurosawa movies over the years and I long ago gave up on Japanese diagogue being more than a blur to me.

10-22-2010, 10:13 PM	#157
monque Senior Member Member since:Sep 2009 4K collection:140 Blu-ray collection:1693 DVD collection:151	Just placed my order from Barnes & Noble. Grand total of $28.51 after applying the 15% promo discount.

10-25-2010, 01:27 AM	#160
zahinn Special Member Member since:Feb 2009 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:150	I was wondering, will Barnes and Nobles price match their stuff with Amazon?

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