The Movie Review and Discussion Thread

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Coppola didn't direct Patton.

I was too lazy, but knew someone would do the honors.

[iam1bearcat]

Originally Posted by Diesel

I don't believe such a thing exists.

There's no explicit, objectively determined criteria which says, "Ok, this is good acting. This is bad acting."


Determining what is good, great, mediocre, or bad acting is all subjective. It's about how the performance resonates with a particular viewer of the film/play.
Now, of course some performances are usually widely agreed upon for being great or for being horrible.

But

Someone could win the Best Actor/Actress Oscar and many other awards and be universally praised by critics....does that mean that they were without a doubt, undeniably fantastic? Nope. It just means they were fantastic to all of those people based on what they consider great acting.
It doesn't make it a fact.





*PS -

[Show spoiler]Someone like myself doesn't give a rats *** what critics/the academy/other award giving groups think

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

100% whole-heartedly disagree. There are objective aspects of cinema. For instance, The Godfather is objectively a great film and Marlon Brando is objectively a great actor. Subjectiveness comes into play when you argue the degree of greatness of something or when you rank films/actors/etc.

So, saying The Godfather is a greater film than Apocalypse Now is subjective. Saying they're both great films is objective. Saying Jolie's performance is good is objective. Saying it was the best performance of the year is subjective.

i kind of agree with Diesel here. what makes a great performance? i think that personally varies for everyone.

let's say you have 10 people who didn't hear anything about Changeling, and more specifically, the performance of Jolie which was nominated left and right all year (which i do agree with btw, but just using this as an example). and let's say you tell these 10 people "once the film is done, write down which performance you feel was best", which would be #1? Jolie? Malkovich? the police detective? the kid? someone else?

i personally don't really have anything that i measure what a "great performance" should be, i kind of just think there is a great performance when it hooks me into the film / character and the portrayal of the character is well done and doesn't take me out of the film. did Jolie's performance sink me into the film? definitely. did the performances in The Godfather do the same thing? no. i didn't feel they were GREAT performances.

but then again it might deal with the subject matter: Jolie in Changeling is a mother missing a child and whatnot, so her performance could probably be more recognizable by someone who's known someone who's even missed their kid for a few seconds. meanwhile in The Godfather, i don't know any gangsters so i don't know how they act, talk or their body language, so i have nothing to base it against so while i found it to be good acting, there was nothing that stood out to me.

just my 2 cents

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

That doesnt count at all. "The Script" shame on you bro.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

because it's incredibly boring and the acting is terrible. imo

Fixed it.

[iam1bearcat]

Originally Posted by Al_The_Strange

If you hate seeing animals tormented (who doesn't? ), stay far away from "Seed" and "The Butterfly Effect." The former has a very sick opening sequence, and the latter has a brutal dog-beating scene (not really shown, but it's enough to tick me off).

thanks Al, i'll make sure i stay away from Seed. i've never heard of it, but i'm gonna make sure i don't forget to stay away from it. that's the last thing i want to see. and yeah, The Butterfly Effect really pissed me off the first time i saw the dog scene and every time i watch the film i skip that scene. even if i'm watching it with someone who hasn't seen it, i'm not watching that. and just thinking about it makes me want to kill that little f***er right now


needless to say, it still irks me obviously

[iam1bearcat]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Fixed it.

very true. i should just edit my original post. actually i will

[iam1bearcat]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Get off the damn computer and pay attention to the facking film!!



Happy?

yes, thank you

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

and to everyone who has seen Antichrist, was i the only one that laughed hysterically when

[Show spoiler]the fox looks at him and says "chaos reigns" in almost Darth Vader type slow-mo voice?

i had to pause the film to calm down from laughing so hard. am i the only one that found that outrageously funny?

uh...yeah I didn't laugh at all. i reacted like this -->
I guess we all respond to stuff differently. Or...youre watching WAAAAAY too much pixar

to all who watched Antichrist: wasn't the film like a combo of

[Show spoiler]Revolutionary Road

and

[Show spoiler]Misery

?

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Get off the damn computer and pay attention to the facking film!!



Happy?

Even if I love a movie, I can't turn off my computer to watch it. All movies kind of drag in parts and being online gives me something else to do while the movie is running.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Even if I love a movie, I can't turn off my computer to watch it. All movies kind of drag in parts and being online gives me something else to do while the movie is running.

you know what would rock???

watching the movie AND being on blu-ray.com simultaneously!!

how?? either do a split window monitor, or have a blu-ray.com transparent-font only foreground screen, with teh film in the background!!

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Even if I love a movie, I can't turn off my computer to watch it. All movies kind of drag in parts and being online gives me something else to do while the movie is running.

Originally Posted by surfdude12

you know what would rock???

watching the movie AND being on blu-ray.com simultaneously!!

how?? either do a split window monitor, or have a blu-ray.com transparent-font only foreground screen, with teh film in the background!!

[iam1bearcat]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

uh...yeah I didn't laugh at all. i reacted like this -->
I guess we all respond to stuff differently. Or...youre watching WAAAAAY too much pixar

that could be. it was creepy, but i couldn't help but laugh. the gf was very "you're "

to all who watched Antichrist: wasn't the film like a combo of

[Show spoiler]Revolutionary Road

and

[Show spoiler]Misery

?

YES! exactly! i think the performance in Antichrist was scarier / better than the one in

[Show spoiler]Misery

, but it has been awhile since i've seen it so i can't say for sure.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

YES! exactly! i think the performance in Antichrist was scarier / better than the one in

[Show spoiler]Misery

, but it has been awhile since i've seen it so i can't say for sure.

It was great, but not that great!

[Show spoiler]Annie Wilkes would smash your ankle into 1000 pieces one minute, and then 5 minutes later, give you a genuine smile, say she loves you and serve you warm brownies!!

Even the chick in Antichrist wasn't that

[Show spoiler]effed up. at least you knew what she was probably up to next!

[Lepidopterous]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

There was zero need to show any scene leading up to the kidnapping, with the exception of her leaving for work. Her non-verbal acting throughout the film as well as the natural wavering of her voice clearly conveyed an intense sense of loss, remorse, and heartbreak. I've read every review on RT about the film. You'd be interested to see what the common perceived negatives of the film are. Jolie's performance is objectively fantastic.

That's oxymoronic. Films can have objective qualities but to claim an entire performance as factually fantastic is pretty ridiculous. Sorry jhiggy, can't side with you on this one.

[Lepidopterous]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

you know what would rock???

watching the movie AND being on blu-ray.com simultaneously!!

how?? either do a split window monitor, or have a blu-ray.com transparent-font only foreground screen, with teh film in the background!!

We should all have a BD live group screening of a movie we've all never seen.

(if or when that's even possible)

[iam1bearcat]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

It was great, but not that great!

[Show spoiler]Annie Wilkes would smash your ankle into 1000 pieces one minute, and then 5 minutes later, give you a genuine smile, say she loves you and serve you warm brownies!!

Even the chick in Antichrist wasn't that

[Show spoiler]effed up. at least you knew what she was probably up to next!

true. i've gotta rewatch

[Show spoiler]Misery

so i can compare while both are fresh in my mind.

and you didn't answer my question yesterday it was "have you seen Elite Squad?!?!?!?!" because you have to!

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

true. i've gotta rewatch

[Show spoiler]Misery

so i can compare while both are fresh in my mind.

and you didn't answer my question yesterday it was "have you seen Elite Squad?!?!?!?!" because you have to!

NO!! haven't seen it!! Your review sounds great. I"ll check it out!!

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

true. i've gotta rewatch

[Show spoiler]Misery

so i can compare while both are fresh in my mind.

and you didn't answer my question yesterday it was "have you seen Elite Squad?!?!?!?!" because you have to!

I'd see Misery if Kathy Bates weren't uglier than dog poo smeared across dry dog poo.

[iam1bearcat]

Originally Posted by DjMethod

We should all have a BD live group screening of a movie we've all never seen.

(if or when that's even possible)

this was something people did during episodes of LOST on lostpedia, they would be on a chat / message board and be like "oh my god did you see that!" "i hate commercials!" and then "oh i think i missed something!" uh, yeah, probably because you're typing and not paying attention dumb @ss!

and i forgot to tell you guys, speaking of not paying attention... when i rented The Fountain a few weeks ago, the next day when i rented some more movies the guy was like, "so how was The Fountain" and i told him it was great and all but needed repeat viewings. and he's says - i kid you not - "yeah, i couldn't really follow it. but then again i was playing videogames at the same time so i probably missed some stuff"

...







really Captain Obvious? you might miss details while watching a movie AND playing videogames?! i was like, "seriously? you were playing games while watching a movie you'd never seen before? why even bother watching it?" and then he just stood there all dumbfounded that i questioned and attacked him about it but seriously, what an idiotic move.

[iam1bearcat]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

NO!! haven't seen it!! Your review sounds great. I"ll check it out!!

yesssss! i'm 95% sure you'll absolutely love it

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

I'd see Misery if Kathy Bates weren't uglier than dog poo smeared across dry dog poo.

not the best reason to avoid a film but a funny reason none the less