No ceasefire in DVD format battle - Blu-ray Forum

Chris Beveridge · 01-09-2007, 07:43 PM

I have zero interest in online delivery. I rather like my packaging, booklets and associated toys that come with many anime releases. And the chipboard boxes too...

theknub · 01-09-2007, 08:25 PM

online delivery is great and all in theory but there are several problems. the most pressing to me is internet speed. no one has an internet connection fast enough to download a movie in a reasonable amount of time. kids on sunday: i want to watch cars! parents: ok, but not until wednesday, we have to download it. after that, throw in all the collectibles like chris mentioned and the pride we all take in showing off our collection. i have a friend who nicknamed me netflix, and i take it with a sense of pride

Deane Johnson · 01-09-2007, 08:54 PM

Internet download of movies seems like a terrible idea to me. How would it work?

I have 1700 titles in my library at the present time. I watch a movie almost every night. I pick what I'm in the mood for, watching some 3 or more times, some only once.

If I download it, how do I save it? Put it on a hard drive? Let's see, 1700+ movies and growing. I could leave the car outside and have a giant hard drive sitting in the middle of the garage.

What do I have to pay for the movie? Is that for one viewing, or more. Aren't downloaded movies easily pirated? Or are we going to download them into a special device that allows for 1 viewing and then it evaporates?

Download times of a standard DVD would be unacceptable, do they get more acceptable with High Def? I think not.

This all sounds related to DIVX to me and we know how that went over.

I think it's a dream of Microsoft that they somehow intend to cash in on. If Microsoft is involved, I'll pass.

KenThompson · 01-09-2007, 08:57 PM

I will always buy the movies. Like the packaging ,labels, the extras . Once you download your movies where do you keep them. Hard drives would fill up quickly and if you rip it to a dvd your right back to where we are now. So whats the point.

JTK · 01-09-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

I have zero interest in online delivery. I rather like my packaging, booklets and associated toys that come with many anime releases. And the chipboard boxes too...

There's a lot of people that feel as you and I do: When I pay money for something, I like to have something to show for it...literally.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...9952#post39952

^^ You can see the rest of my thoughts there.

Blubaru · 01-09-2007, 10:22 PM

When did M$$ sell 170k? More like 40k

M$$ couldn’t sell 170k in their wildest dreams.

goodstuff · 01-09-2007, 10:26 PM

Exactly. Didn't HD-DVD's own press release state 175,000 TOTAL units sold (including the 360 add-on and standalones)?

dialog_gvf · 01-09-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodstuff

Exactly. Didn't HD-DVD's own press release state 175,000 TOTAL units sold (including the 360 add-on and standalones)?

That is what it says.

Gary

MrVandelay · 01-09-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by theknub

online delivery is great and all in theory but there are several problems. the most pressing to me is internet speed. no one has an internet connection fast enough to download a movie in a reasonable amount of time.

Actually Online Delivery of movies is quite possible when "internet 2" becomes available to main stream public. It has been out for about 10 years, but is limited to Higher education institutions and corporations (Microsoft, IBM, Cisco, etc..) for research.

The current speed records for Internet 2, is 2.98 terabytes of data across 30,000 kilometers of network over 45 minutes at an average rate of 8.80 gigabits per second. I think you could quite easily download your DVDs

see: http://www.internet2.edu/

theknub · 01-09-2007, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrVandelay

Actually Online Delivery of movies is quite possible when "internet 2" becomes available to main stream public. It has been out for about 10 years, but is limited to Higher education institutions and corporations (Microsoft, IBM, Cisco, etc..) for research.

The current speed records for Internet 2, is 2.98 terabytes of data across 30,000 kilometers of network over 45 minutes at an average rate of 8.80 gigabits per second. I think you could quite easily download your DVDs

see: http://www.internet2.edu/

so when will that be in your typical home?

we'd be looking at what, ten years before mainstream? and even then it will be another five before "everyone" has access.

think about it, it is ten+ years now since DSL came out and you still see people PC commercials for dial up.

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01-09-2007, 07:43 PM	#1
Chris Beveridge Moderator Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Hudson, MA Blu-ray reviews:3	I have zero interest in online delivery. I rather like my packaging, booklets and associated toys that come with many anime releases. And the chipboard boxes too...

01-09-2007, 08:25 PM	#2
theknub Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2006	online delivery is great and all in theory but there are several problems. the most pressing to me is internet speed. no one has an internet connection fast enough to download a movie in a reasonable amount of time. kids on sunday: i want to watch cars! parents: ok, but not until wednesday, we have to download it. after that, throw in all the collectibles like chris mentioned and the pride we all take in showing off our collection. i have a friend who nicknamed me netflix, and i take it with a sense of pride

01-09-2007, 08:54 PM	#3
Deane Johnson Active Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Omaha, NE	Internet download of movies seems like a terrible idea to me. How would it work? I have 1700 titles in my library at the present time. I watch a movie almost every night. I pick what I'm in the mood for, watching some 3 or more times, some only once. If I download it, how do I save it? Put it on a hard drive? Let's see, 1700+ movies and growing. I could leave the car outside and have a giant hard drive sitting in the middle of the garage. What do I have to pay for the movie? Is that for one viewing, or more. Aren't downloaded movies easily pirated? Or are we going to download them into a special device that allows for 1 viewing and then it evaporates? Download times of a standard DVD would be unacceptable, do they get more acceptable with High Def? I think not. This all sounds related to DIVX to me and we know how that went over. I think it's a dream of Microsoft that they somehow intend to cash in on. If Microsoft is involved, I'll pass.

01-09-2007, 08:57 PM	#4
KenThompson Power Member Member since:Sep 2006 Location:B.C. Canada	I will always buy the movies. Like the packaging ,labels, the extras . Once you download your movies where do you keep them. Hard drives would fill up quickly and if you rip it to a dvd your right back to where we are now. So whats the point.

01-09-2007, 10:22 PM	#6
Blubaru Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Tonight! you!	When did M$$ sell 170k? More like 40k M$$ couldn’t sell 170k in their wildest dreams.

01-09-2007, 10:26 PM	#7
goodstuff Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2006 4K collection:509 Blu-ray collection:6535 Blu-ray reviews: 85 Trading Score:6	Exactly. Didn't HD-DVD's own press release state 175,000 TOTAL units sold (including the 360 add-on and standalones)?

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