Buy Planet Earth on Blu-ray to assure the end of Hd DVD on planet earth

[richard lichtenfelt]

Apparently there has been a tremendous push by hd dvd owners to purchase the WB release of Planet Earth. No doubt their efforts are meant to sway WB against going blu-ray exclusive. At this point in time on amazon it is outselling Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End probably by a 2 to 1 ratio.
Planet Earth is an amazing release garnering a rating on IMDB of 9.8 out of 10 with 4,362 votes: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0795176/
DVD Verdict gives it an overall rating of 100. http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/planetearth.php
Buying this series could very well keep WB thinking about blu-ray exclusivity, and it is well worth the purchase price.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

At this point in time on amazon it is outselling Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End by more than double.

Are you talking about sales rank? If Pirates BD is ranked 36 and Planet Earth HD DVD is ranked 18, you do realize that doesn't mean Planet Earth is selling twice as many units, right?

[richard lichtenfelt]

Planet Earth on hd dvd is ranked 15th out of all disc sales. POTC 4 on blu-ray is ranked 36th. http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/index.cfm
I realize that it is not an exact sales ratio, but does mean that it is probably selling roughly twice as many, if not more on amazon.
I would really be interested in the total # sold for each. but don't know where to find that stat.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

I realize that it is not an exact sales ratio, but does mean that it is probably selling roughly twice as many, if not more on amazon.

That's just simply not the case. It's sales rank, and that has nothing to do w/ sales other than "line up", from worst to first, the discs selling less units than the one ranked ahead of it. Something ranked 10 could be selling 2x as much as something ranked 20, but it could also selling selling 1.5X as many, 1.2x as many, 5x as many, etc. All we know is that it is selling "more".

[oldmike]

Planet Earth is not some thing i want and at that price i can get 2 movies or more
i am buying all 5 HP movies one buy one thou as i want the lovely blu cases

[w_tanoto]

i'll get one myself next year (january). still haven't decided which one to go (which version). I prefer british accent of the narrator. but the uk version only has 1080i

[cking2729]

Not sure where you got the 'double' idea from the information provided by Amazon, but I can almost guarantee you that Planet Earth's success can be attributed to people buying it mistakingly to play on DVD players.

Also, isn't Warner just acting as distributor for this title on behalf of BBC in North America? It isn't actually a Warner production, is it? If so, then Planet Earth doesn't really have an effect on Warner Bros. chances of going Blu exclusive.

If you wanted to really convince Warner Bros., you should change the title of your post to "Buy Harry Potter on Blu-Ray to assure the end of HD-DVD." That's what I am going to do, anyway.

[turboedguy]

Originally Posted by cking2729

If you wanted to really convince Warner Bros., you should change the title of your post to "Buy Harry Potter on Blu-Ray to assure the end of HD-DVD." That's what I am going to do, anyway.

+1

I already own Planet Earth anyways, as well as many here.
Harry Potter I think is much more important than a catalog title...

But if you have neither, Buy Both!

[richard lichtenfelt]

I certainly didn't mean instead of Harry Potter. I imagine that HP on blu-ray is going to outsell the hd dvd version.
WB is going to base any decision on the sale of all of their titles, not just HP as so many people seem to think.
Don't agree with me, fine don't buy it.
Want to quibble about exact #'s, then prove me wrong rather than tell me you think I'm wrong. What don't you understand about the term "roughly?"

[cking2729]

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

I certainly didn't mean instead of Harry Potter. I imagine that HP on blu-ray is going to outsell the hd dvd version.
WB is going to base any decision on the sale of all of their titles, not just HP as so many people seem to think.
Don't agree with me, fine don't buy it.
Want to quibble about exact #'s, then prove me wrong rather than tell me you think I'm wrong. What don't you understand about the term "roughly."

Don't get upset. Like I asked in my previous post, Planet Earth is just a Warner distribution on behalf of the BBC, right? If that is the case, I really don't think its sales are going to reflect upon the studio Warner Bros. decision to go Blu exclusive.

I'd like to see Planet Earth not be so high on HD-DVD, but there are a number of factors that are keeping it artificially high. It's a flagship HD title for one, for two it's one of the few HD-DVD titles worth owning and all the new owners are going to purchase it, and three, people are mistakingly purchasing it to play on DVD players.

If we want to convince Warner Bros., the studio, to go Blu exclusive, we already won 300, we already won their catalog titles, and now we need to win Harry Potter. HP:OOTP is by and large their biggest HDM release of the year.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

I certainly didn't mean instead of Harry Potter. I imagine that HP on blu-ray is going to outsell the hd dvd version.
WB is going to base any decision on the sale of all of their titles, not just HP as so many people seem to think.
Don't agree with me, fine don't buy it.
Want to quibble about exact #'s, then prove me wrong rather than tell me you think I'm wrong. What don't you understand about the term "roughly."

Lose the attitude, it's not personal. YOU ARE WRONG. OK. Accept it. A sales rank that is 10 does not imply it's selling "roughly" 2x the number of units as a disc ranked 20.

Example 1:
Disc Ranked 1 = 1,000 units
Disc Ranked 2 = 900 units
Disc Ranked 3 = 700 units
Disc Ranked 4 = 250 units

Agree with the rankings based on units? Ok, does that mean Rank #2 is selling 1/2 as much as Rank #1? Does this mean that Rank #2 is selling twice as much as #4?

Example 2:
If you took all the teams in the NFL and lined them up based on record, the Patriots would be #1 at 13-0, and the Cowboys would be #2 at 12-1. Does that mean the Patriots won twice as many games as the Cowboys?

Get it? Yes, there exists the probability that somewhere on Amazon there may be an instance where a disc with a rank that twice the number of another so happens also to be moving twice the volume. That is a remote possibility.

Here's your scenario ():
Disc Ranked 1 = 1,000 units
Disc Ranked 2 = 500 units
Disc Ranked 4 = 250 units
Disc Ranked 8 = 125 units

[dakota81]

I'd say the Planet Earth copies are those being purchased with all the $98 players being given away as gifts.

Richard, if you'd be so kind to lend me $70 I'll be more than happy to buy a copy of Planet Earth.

[richard lichtenfelt]

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY ARE SOLD OF EITHER TITLE. I NEVER IMPLIED THAT I DID.
I COULD BE WRONG ABOUT THE #'s.
YOU MAY BE FAR MO SMARTER THAN I BE.
WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ARGUING ABOUT #'s?
Talking about discs sold across all platforms a difference from 15 to 36 is probably greater than you anticipate. How many titles do you think are selling roughly the same #?
How are the made up #'s in your post any more realistic than my estimate. You try to prove something as absolute with #'s you pulled out of the air.
I'm not the kind of person who feels that they have to be right about everything so I don't want to get into a numerical debate. I would say you are right and I am wrong, but I was dealing with estimates which I still feel to be on the conservative side.
Your NFL analogy is based on wins and loses in a category where both have played the same amount of games give or take 1 counting the bye weeks. I don't see the relevance.
At the least, it is outselling all other individual blu-rays on amazon, no matter what the exact numerical difference is. This is disturbing to me as it is an old hd dvd catalog title outselling all but 14 regular dvds.
Harry Potter is going to sell to those who are fans of the series, but I think that there are probably more than a few people who don't realize how good PE is, and just wrote it off as a boring documentary without ever looking into it. I included reviews that show it is worthy of consideration.

[blu2]

Originally Posted by cking2729

Not sure where you got the 'double' idea from the information provided by Amazon, but I can almost guarantee you that Planet Earth's success can be attributed to people buying it mistakingly to play on DVD players.

You don't have any evidence that this occurs in numbers significant enough to influence the sales rank, do you?

[thegland]

Originally Posted by cking2729

Not sure where you got the 'double' idea from the information provided by Amazon, but I can almost guarantee you that Planet Earth's success can be attributed to people buying it mistakingly to play on DVD players.
.

Come on now,that's pretty far fetched.I own Planet Earth ON BD btw.

[Swede]

Originally Posted by thegland

Come on now,that's pretty far fetched.I own Planet Earth ON BD btw.

Actually, if you read the comments on Amazon it's pretty obvious that quite a few people mistakenly bought the HD DVD version, complaining that it doesn't work on their DVD player

Anyway, Planet Earth really is a FANTASTIC documentary series. I rented the first couple of discs from Blockbuster, and ended up buying it on BD, it's just that good! Superb demo material, and one of the best if not THE best BBC documentary I've ever seen, which is saying quite a lot. And of course, choose the David Attenborough version if at all possible!

That said, it has been proven time and time again that a high sales rank on Amazon does NOT necessarily correlate to high overall sales on the Nielsen report. In fact, looking at overall Nielsen sales Planet earth has been selling about equally on both formats.

[haushausman]

Originally Posted by cking2729

Not sure where you got the 'double' idea from the information provided by Amazon, but I can almost guarantee you that Planet Earth's success can be attributed to people buying it mistakingly to play on DVD players.

Bingo!

It's not far fetched at all. This was a HUGE problem when HD-DVD was first released.

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by cking2729

Not sure where you got the 'double' idea from the information provided by Amazon, but I can almost guarantee you that Planet Earth's success can be attributed to people buying it mistakingly to play on DVD players.

Also, isn't Warner just acting as distributor for this title on behalf of BBC in North America? It isn't actually a Warner production, is it? If so, then Planet Earth doesn't really have an effect on Warner Bros. chances of going Blu exclusive.

If you wanted to really convince Warner Bros., you should change the title of your post to "Buy Harry Potter on Blu-Ray to assure the end of HD-DVD." That's what I am going to do, anyway.

thats truie about BBC but they said that they will continue being neutral in the states

[JAGUAR1977]

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

Apparently there has been a tremendous push by hd dvd owners to purchase the WB release of Planet Earth. No doubt their efforts are meant to sway WB against going blu-ray exclusive. At this point in time on amazon it is outselling Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End probably by a 2 to 1 ratio.
Planet Earth is an amazing release garnering a rating on IMDB of 9.8 out of 10 with 4,362 votes: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0795176/
DVD Verdict gives it an overall rating of 100. http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/planetearth.php
Buying this series could very well keep WB thinking about blu-ray exclusivity, and it is well worth the purchase price.

How many more times, Amazon rankings has no relation to actual sales.

POTC 3 will sell around 100k, PE on HD-DVD will be lucky to sell 10k-15k.

HD-DVD owners spending all their cash on Planet Earth, and earlier Transformers, shows how weak the format is, a small core of supporters boosting individual titles, while ignoring the rest, is a recipe for disaster.

[zoon_ii]

already did my part.