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Old 11-18-2010, 12:53 AM   #14001
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My Criterion Collection haul from the B&N sale finally arrived!

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I blind-bought The Magician as well. Haven't had time to watch it though. I have Thin Red Line and Charade waiting for me at B&N but I'm probably just going to pick up TTRL.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:54 AM   #14002
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right uh huh. You couldn't convince me of that. You guys do it ever time a new movie comes out that has allot of hype behind it. Avatar, The Dark Knight, Inception etc. Honestly i think some of you are just movie snobs but it doesn't bother me because i like to know what you think is good and usually you are a good reference to lesser know films. If you cant watch a box office hit and a critically acclaimed movie then you are without a doubt a versatile movie watcher which imo is the best person to listen to for recommendations. (A PAID CRITIC) Al the Strange and Surf seem like the only guys that can sit and watch a "film" and a "movie".

Once again im not trying to offend anyone im just stating my opinion. I like reading this thread because of the huge difference in taste and thats it.
honestly, it sounds like someone who follows the flock of sheep. just because there is a blockbuster release out doesn't mean it's gonna be great. and being a blockbuster doesn't make it instantly great. that's just nonsense. start a thread and ask the question, "if you disliked Avatar, why did you dislike it?" and i guarantee you ZERO answers would be "because it has a lot of hype" - that's the most ridiculous thing in the world.

and no one does that here. i dislike Avatar because it was boring and generic. and i actually love The Dark Knight (4.5/5), but it's far from perfect - but that was a blockbuster - so you're "logic" has no bearing or evidence to support it.

Czar talks about not upgrading a score to a movie just because it's regarded as a classic and not caring what others think of the score you assign it, it seems you do the opposite - you seem to like it (partly) because it IS a blockbuster. we've been through this before. you love Avatar, and a lot of people do, but a lot also dislike it / hate it. i don't rag on people who like Avatar and say they like it "just because it's a blockuster film that made boatloads of money" but every time someone on here says they dislike it, you start up with how "we're 'movie snobs' who simply dislike it because it's a blockbuster" which is the most foolish statement i have read on this site, honestly.
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I never said he wasnt. That statement was general. But i hear ya.

Seems pretty specific to me

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Al the Strange and Surf seem like the only guys that can sit and watch a "film" and a "movie".

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honestly, it sounds like someone who follows the flock of sheep. just because there is a blockbuster release out doesn't mean it's gonna be great. and being a blockbuster doesn't make it instantly great. that's just nonsense. start a thread and ask the question, "if you disliked Avatar, why did you dislike it?" and i guarantee you ZERO answers would be "because it has a lot of hype" - that's the most ridiculous thing in the world.
Hey now, don't create more work for me to moderate

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Old 11-18-2010, 12:59 AM   #14004
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How is Amarcord? Critics seem to be split on it, with some considering it arguably Fellini's best work and others thinking it's a laughable film.
It's both. It's ridiculous, bizarre, and hysterical. Since you liked 8 1/2 (I am assuming since you own it), you might love it. I was so confused when I first saw it but also enjoyed and appreciated it. I have a small bias towards Fellini because my old film professor praised him so much in his lectures. Either way, definitely give it a watch.
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:00 AM   #14005
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Bearcat is a very diverse movie watching individual. I mean, he loves Paul Walker and Daniel Day Lewis
haha best example ever

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i'll do what i want Diesel!


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Old 11-18-2010, 01:03 AM   #14006
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haha best example ever
Thought you'd enjoy that one



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I'm going to watch Bad Boys II tomorrow. Haven't seen it before, but I want to finish my last two Michael Bay movies so I DVR'd it and have Pearl Harbor set for (I think) this weekend, but I'm not sure if its on an HD channel or a 4:3 one
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:04 AM   #14007
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yeah, movie of the week = shorter, so it might survive.

personally, i think "movie of the day" or "movie of the hour" would be super-sweet!!

think about it:

-"idisturbd award" for "mid-movie" review ("stop posting + watch the f&* film)
-"gandalf award" for "WTF reply post" reivew (huh? chewbacca?)
-"bearcat award" for "longest" review (huh? a new thread page already?)
-"jhiggy award" for "merciless" review (take no prisoners)
-"squid award" for "least quantitative" review (no 5 ratings, plz)
-"diesel award" for "most use of smiles" review
-"DJ method award" for "versatile review" (Sin City , Marienbad, its all great!)
-"Tbizzle award" for "realistic review" (Frostbite? huh? )



-"surfdude award" for "most bulleted" review (it's not a surfdude review without pros and cons)
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:09 AM   #14008
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Everlasting Moments

Film: 4.5/5
[Show spoiler]-second viewing. Gave it 3.5/5 on first viewing, as I felt the screenwriter/director were a tad too manipulative with the score (does chime in at deep moments) and characters (polarizing so not much room for interpretation). I was also admittedly frustrated with some of the decisions of the main character.
-HOwever, on this viewing, I honestly felt none of that. Its like I was watching a completely different film. I think this film is just one of those films you MUST watch more than once (hint: great replay value ), as the first viewing can be "jolting" (can't think of a better word) as you are digesting the plot/characters for the first time, and its hard for it all to go down smooth. ON this viewing, the film was like pie a la mode
-The lead actress' performance was incredible. ONe of the best I've seen in the past few years.
-Maria's father was probably
[Show spoiler]the chief reason she didn't leave Siegg, by injecting her with religious guilt on the marital commitment, although deep down she probably loved his good side more than she hated his bad side.
DJ method (or someone else?) wrote a great review this past week that explains her emotional wiring better than I ever could.

PQ: 5/5 (I previously rated it 4/5, but I've come to love the old-photographic style)

AQ: 4/5
Thanks surf. Really glad you got so much more out of it this time around. I know I vowed either this or Revanche, but I have a feeling I might be all over EM by the next Criterion sale.
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I'm going to watch Bad Boys II tomorrow. Haven't seen it before, but I want to finish my last two Michael Bay movies so I DVR'd it and have Pearl Harbor set for (I think) this weekend, but I'm not sure if its on an HD channel or a 4:3 one
i haven't even seen the first one!
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:15 AM   #14010
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i haven't even seen the first one!
I just saw it for the first time a few months back.

It was ok. Gave it a 3.5/5 I think.

It was fun though, some good action and humor
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:17 AM   #14011
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Paths of Glory (Criterion blu)


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Stanley Kubrick’s Paths of Glory is among the most powerful antiwar films ever made. A fiery Kirk Douglas stars as a World War I French colonel who goes head-to-head with the army’s ruthless top brass when his men are accused of cowardice after being unable to carry out an impossible mission. This haunting, exquisitely photographed dissection of the military machine in all its absurdity and capacity for dehumanization (a theme Kubrick would continue to explore throughout his career) is assembled with its legendary director’s customary precision, from its tense trench warfare sequences to its gripping courtroom climax to its ravaging final scene.



PQ and AQ: 4 stars (out of 5)

Film: 4 stars (out of 4)


While 2001, imo, is Kubrick's masterpiece, I believe Paths of Glory is his best pure film (still have to see The Killing and Barry Lyndon). Clocking in at under 90 minutes, the film moves at a swift pace but is always interesting. The direction is exceptional and you really get a taste for later Kubrick with the tracking shots, which are very effectively done. I love that you never see the enemy, which adds to the themes of the film.

Overall, this is a very powerful film regardless of your opinions or viewpoints on war. So very pleased to have blind bought this at the recommendation of my trusted confidantes, Rich and surfdude. Thanks guys.
Great review. The Killing is a very good movie (pitch-perfect set up and I love the ending), but I think Paths of Glory is better.
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:19 AM   #14012
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Paths of Glory (netflix instant)

[Show spoiler]year: 1957
director: stanley kubrick
starring: kirk douglas

i'm not a big Kubrick fan from the work of his i've seen. i absolutely love 2001: A Space Odyssey, but aside from that i really don't enjoy his films. i respect A Clockwork Orange (2.5/5) and The Shining (2.5/5) but don't like the films themselves. and while i have seen Eyes Wide Shut it has been far too many years since i've viewed it to give it a proper score.

but needless to say, Paths of Glory follows the same lines as The Shining and AWO: well made, but i really don't like it.

i'm gonna try and keep this short since i dislike the film and don't want to spend a lot of time writing about it. i found the film, in one very simple word to be quite: boring. i didn't care what was happening and it didn't hold my interest at all.

the directing was superb (5/5) and the writing was good and the story... decent. but it just didn't click for me.

for being 88 minutes i was shocked and outraged at how slowly it moved and it felt like 3 hours instead of one and a half. it was ridiculous. if you're not hooked and engaged from the start, you never will be. and i wasn't. so this was quite the struggle just to finish (thank god it was only 88 minutes).


i respect the film and respect Kubrick for what he has done, and you can definitely get a sense that this is a Kubrick directed film. but this is very easily an addition to my "once is enough" collection.

very during the whole thing.

2/5
I also consider it a Diesel one and done, but it's still one of the best WWI movies I've seen.
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:27 AM   #14013
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I also consider it a Diesel one and done, but it's still one of the best WWI movies I've seen.
same, but as you can tell i changed the wording, because now you owe Diesel 25 cents, and i still do not
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:31 AM   #14014
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Seven Samurai (netflix instant)

[Show spoiler]year: 1954
director: akira kurosawa

i FINALLY got through all of this today. i had to watch it in bits and pieces (half hour here, half hour there) because i'm not gonna have a solid 4 hours of uninterrupted peace and quiet to get through it so i had to watch it this way.

was it enjoyable? yeah. but i didn't find it THAT good and i found myself going, "so... how much time is left?" a lot and there were a bunch of scenes that felt way too long and didn't need to be included. so that drove me nuts.

directing, atmosphere and cinematography were all great. but again, the individual merits - good. impact and enjoyment - low.

i know for sure i will never be watching this again. way too long and way too uninteresting for large chunks of time. like i said a few days ago, i never even heard of this movie until a few months ago (from this very site), i still don't really get what all the hub-bub is about is it a good / great movie? yes. did it feel to me like a 5/5 classic that is looked upon and bowed to as an end all be all that other films strive to be? not for me it isn't.

am i glad i watched it? ...i guess? it just didn't really do anything for me. some of the characters were great, but some were just "meh" and the story that was being told could have been told in two hours at absolute most. not 210 freaking minutes!


3.5/5
I agree with everyone else. You gave it your effort, that's what matters. I'm still glad you finally saw a Kurosawa film! The composition of the framing is one aspect the film is highly praised for. Many of the shots occur in "three's" which is a recurring motif in the film. I also find the making of Seven Samurai particularly fascinating.
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same, but as you can tell i changed the wording, because now you owe Diesel 25 cents, and i still do not
Fine I'll call it a schmiesel schmun and dun.
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:41 AM   #14016
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Kingdom of Heaven (2005)
In the following act the film must disappointingly move away from the more interesting pilgrim's journey and enter the stale world of religious politics and the struggles for power between nobles who wage war to advance their personal cause. The film grows in scale but loosing the personal tale of Balian to a clichéd hero's rise did not make it more interesting. It loses its grounding in the reality Scott setup early on and very quickly becomes just another film designed for instant feel good gratification for the masses. A template tale you've all seen many times.
First off, fantastic review!! And I'll admit upfront that this is my favorite (currently) film between Gladiator, Braveheart, Last Samurai, and Troy (we recently ranked our favorites).

I completely understand why you came to the above conclusion. THere definitely is a big turn in the plot when Balian arrives at Jerusalem. However, I don't see a disconnect here. As you said, Balian's knight oath (on his pilgrim journey) was based on swearing to defend the helpless. When Balian is with the King, you'll recall he tells him
[Show spoiler](in response to "were you once sure of your end?", that "I was to be buried 100 yards from where I was born...now I sit before a king". This seems to sum up your argument, but then the King reminds him of his duty to protect the helpless and that "all are welcome in Jerusalem". I never saw the King or Balian as involved in a religious political debate. They never defended any religious ideology, but only that of protecting the helpless. Sure, Balian may have worn Christian colors, but that wasn't his primary goal, or he would have joined the red-haired guy on command and killed helpless people.
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So in so many words, that is why I don't see a disconnect there - Balian's mission never changed , from his pilgrim journey when his Dad knighted him to his actions in Jerusalem. Just my 2 cents.

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You can just feel the climax of a large scale war building up even before the third act begins. The big speeches to rally the troops and the sacrifices everyone has to make for the greater good. The power plays by the evil nobles looking to capitalise on death and weakness. Yeah, you've seen this many times before and as much practice as Scott has, it fell really short this time. Part of the problem is in the direction of the film but I felt that most of it can be placed squarely on the shoulders of the lead.
Surprisingly, this is one of the reasons I love KOH: the ratio of action-to-dialogue is much much less than Glaiator/Braveheart/etc. KOH doesn't lean on action/battle sequences as much as the other similar films do. Instead, it seemed to spend more time (and focus) on dialogue/character development. At least it seemed so from my standpoint?

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What the role of Balian required was a man. A strong charismatic leader who with mere presence inspires and whose booming voice can rally beaten men to rise and be counted as warriors. Instead, we have to watch a man boy with puppy eyes who easily elicits pity and has one expression to offer the camera, one of profound constipation. On the back of his Pirates of the Caribbean success, Bloom might have been a financially sound choice but in the long run his involvement delegates the film to the back of the shelf.
Great points here -- my initial gut reaction was "BLoom sucks", but then I started to share your earlier view above: that we're talking about a lowly blacksmith here. If we were to use a Crowe or someone more "manly" , then would they be able to be as "lowly" in the beginning? Crowe probably could. He's incredible. But I think you see my point: Balian's range from lowly at the beginning to bada$$ mofo at the end can't be too big to be unbelievable/unrealistic.

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To be fair, the dialogue is partly to blame. Speeches that are written to stand the hairs on the back of your neck instead make your butt clench in uncontrollable embarrassment. At the crucial moment, amid alien scenes of war when we most need to believe, a weak delivery pushes you further away from the world they're attempting to create. You suddenly feel deflated after you've invested 3 hours into this film and the pay off is a meek one. To walk away with that feeling is to walk away with the opinion that the film was very poor.
I can 100% understand why you felt this way. Some of Bloom's speeches towards the end were dripping with cheese, but for whatever reason, they've grown on me. Perhaps its because the rest of the film resonates with me so much, from the King who I looove, to the scenery, score, etc. So perhaps I'm subconsciously overlooking bloom's dialogue at the end here (sweeping it under the rug)

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But it's not. Despite some of its short comings it is a wonderful experience. Scott truly creates a violent yet breathtakingly beautiful middle age that's dark and alive with the tedium of daily life from peasant to king. The cinematography will take your breath away at times and should be familiar to those that have seen Gladiator or the recent Robin Hood in which the pair of Scott and cinematographer John Mathieson weave their illusions. Should that partnership have extended to Rusell Crowe, as it did in Gladiator and the less successful Robin Hood, Kingdom of Heaven would have at the least had a chance at lasting greatness with a more convincing leading man.
Absolutely agree! I recently watched Robin HOod and in the extras they said how they used most of the KOH armor in Robin HOod b/c the time periods were only about 70 years apart. For the cinematography, I also said how both films have that kind of "blu-ish hue" to them, where Scott tends to film these breathtaking outdoor scenes (particularly wooded areas) with a bluish tint to the lens, making it absolutely gorgeous!

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The support cast are a bit hit and miss but it has to be said that Edward Norton puts in a stellar performance as the leprosy ridden King Baldwin. Covered from head to toe in white with a silver mask for a face, he is easily more regal than any man on screen. A beautiful and strong man in his early years, King Baldwin has been slowly forced into seclusion but maintains a strong persona for his people who expect nothing less. The pain he has carried since the disease started to consume his flesh, and his world, are fully realised by Edward Norton in the way he carries himself, in his muffled calculated speech and in his piercing eyes - the only part of him you can make out behind the somber silver mask that hides his disfigured face.
King Baldwin = my favorite character in all of these epics. SOmething about him, I don't know. YOu describe it perfectly. The chess board scene was perfection: "the whole world is in chess -- move anywhere other than where you started, and you can't be sure of your end" <-- quotes like this, so short and sweet, but so deep! the kind of dialogue I just don't hear in these kind of epic films. But the delivery definitely made it even more impactful!

Look forward to more of your reviews!!
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How to Train Your Dragon

Almost every review I've seen is positive, so I decided on a blind buy.

I'm not thrilled with the animation or the look of the world, it's people or the dragons.

The story relies on action and is extremely noisy with lots of shouting.

There's almost zero character development.

The story is weak and I'm not sure it even makes sense.

There's almost nobody to root for.

Try naming four characters...

Very disappointing. Never touches on the emotion or depth that even the worst Pixar movies do and isn't fit to lick Miyazaki's boots.

3/5
Oh my God. The first other person to consider it mediocre. I felt like I was taking crazy pills. I wouldn't consider it very disappointing, but then again, that's fair considering all the over-the-top hype it's received. I consider it a good movie but never saw the big deal.

I found some of my posts on the How to Train Your Dragon thread if you want to know how I felt after watching it.
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So here's my take on the weekly movie idea.

I think we all have at least one film we want our fellow members on here to see and share ideas from. The problem with voting is that some of those particular movies will never get chosen. I was thinking of a more personal approach: We concoct a list of the "regulars" (presumably alphabetically, but we can randomly generate the order just as well). We can go down the list one by one, so that each of us has a "turn" to have everyone watch that member's "pick of the week". Then we all must put forth modest effort to watch it by the end of the week so we can spend the next week discussing it.

Reasonable?
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:05 AM   #14019
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honestly, it sounds like someone who follows the flock of sheep. just because there is a blockbuster release out doesn't mean it's gonna be great. and being a blockbuster doesn't make it instantly great. that's just nonsense. start a thread and ask the question, "if you disliked Avatar, why did you dislike it?" and i guarantee you ZERO answers would be "because it has a lot of hype" - that's the most ridiculous thing in the world.

and no one does that here. i dislike Avatar because it was boring and generic. and i actually love The Dark Knight (4.5/5), but it's far from perfect - but that was a blockbuster - so you're "logic" has no bearing or evidence to support it.

Czar talks about not upgrading a score to a movie just because it's regarded as a classic and not caring what others think of the score you assign it, it seems you do the opposite - you seem to like it (partly) because it IS a blockbuster. we've been through this before. you love Avatar, and a lot of people do, but a lot also dislike it / hate it. i don't rag on people who like Avatar and say they like it "just because it's a blockuster film that made boatloads of money" but every time someone on here says they dislike it, you start up with how "we're 'movie snobs' who simply dislike it because it's a blockbuster" which is the most foolish statement i have read on this site, honestly.
hahahaha wow, what type of thread would that be? Of course no one would admit it because when i movie is watched based off hype then you find little reasons like "Generic" to say you dont like it.

As for me liking it Partly because its a blockbuster ummmmm NO! My collection and wide range of movies clearly shows that im everywhere with movies. Which could possibly mean anytime i watch a movie i can tell where the director is coming from and i give him or her credit for their work. Thats any movie i watch.
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Great points here -- my initial gut reaction was "BLoom sucks", but then I started to share your earlier view above: that we're talking about a lowly blacksmith here. If we were to use a Crowe or someone more "manly" , then would they be able to be as "lowly" in the beginning? Crowe probably could. He's incredible. But I think you see my point: Balian's range from lowly at the beginning to bada$$ mofo at the end can't be too big to be unbelievable/unrealistic.
Bloom is actually perfect for this role during the first act. He effortlessly makes you feel his sorrow and loss. I guess this is why the first act was my favourite and I just wished the rest of it could play out to his strength in this regard. The whole first act worked from direction, to the wonderful score and cinematography. Oh, and Michael Sheen as the priest is often overlooked for whatever reasons but I think he did really well.


Thanks for the feedback and your thorough notes. Much appreciated.
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