7.1 Surround Sound Effects off of DTS HD Master & Dolby True HD lost?

[crackinhedz]

in the PS3 settings...what do you have checked off as far as frequencies selected? (all 5.1 and 7.1 PCM should be selected)

Settings - Sound Settings - Audio Output Settings






"Direct" setting in the Onkyo is ok as far as settings go. (I like to use THX Select or DDPLIIxCinema...preferences vary)

"Direct
In this mode, audio from the input source is output
directly with minimal processing, providing high-fidelity
reproduction. All of the source’s audio channels are
output as they are."

(SS316SRV, I have never heard of Direct mode "kicking" HDMI out??)



"Neural THX 5.1/7.1
Neural-THX Surround employs psychoacoustic frequency
domain processing, which allows delivery of a
more detailed sound stage, with superior channel separation
and localization of audio elements. The Neural THX
5.1 and Neural THX 7.1 modes can expand any 2-channel
stereo source for 5.1- or 7.1-channel playback"



Ok, this is what im thinking...for some reason, the PS3 is outputting in stereo for some reason, which is why on "Direct" you only heard the Left and Right...and on Neural, the 2 channel was simulated into 5.1-7.1



Id recheck the PS3 settings...

[Gravion2005]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

in the PS3 settings...what do you have checked off as far as frequencies selected? (all 5.1 and 7.1 PCM should be selected)

Settings - Sound Settings - Audio Output Settings






"Direct" setting in the Onkyo is ok as far as settings go. (I like to use THX Select or DDPLIIxCinema...preferences vary)

"Direct
In this mode, audio from the input source is output
directly with minimal processing, providing high-fidelity
reproduction. All of the source’s audio channels are
output as they are."

(SS316SRV, I have never heard of Direct mode "kicking" HDMI out??)



"Neural THX 5.1/7.1
Neural-THX Surround employs psychoacoustic frequency
domain processing, which allows delivery of a
more detailed sound stage, with superior channel separation
and localization of audio elements. The Neural THX
5.1 and Neural THX 7.1 modes can expand any 2-channel
stereo source for 5.1- or 7.1-channel playback"



Ok, this is what im thinking...for some reason, the PS3 is outputting in stereo for some reason, which is why on "Direct" you only heard the Left and Right...and on Neural, the 2 channel was simulated into 5.1-7.1



Id recheck the PS3 settings...

MY MAN i appreciate u going through the trouble of putting diagrams and all that instruction for my dumb ars loolol. I actually checked the settings on the ps3 and ALL of the them were already checked. That was done automatically the day put the HDMI 1.3a cable from the ps3. That day when i set it up, it checked it all on it's own. I just checked it and it's all selected so i have NO idea why only 2 channels are being heard. The speakers are but 2 months old IF that, everything works but for some reason i cannot get that HD sound coming out of the ps2 to sound off in 7.1 glory or even 5.1 glory.

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by Gravion2005

...everything works but for some reason i cannot get that HD sound coming out of the ps2 to sound off in 7.1 glory or even 5.1 glory.

PS2?

(also, to cut out any inknown's...you dont have an optical cable connected from the ps3? dumb question yes I know, but im not in your living room to help! )

[crackinhedz]

can you go into your Onkyo Settings and state what yours is set on...

Press the [RECEIVER] REMOTE
MODE button, followed by the
[SETUP] button.
The main menu appears onscreen.

select #5: Listening
Mode Preset,” and then press
[ENTER].
The Listening Mode Preset menu
appears. (select your input)



Analog/PCM - Last Valid
Dolby Digital - Last Valid
DTS - Last Valid
D.F.2ch - Last Valid
D.F.Mono - Last Valid
Multich PCM - Last Valid
192k/176.4k - Last Valid
Dolby True HD - Last Valid
DTS-HD Master - Audio Last Valid
DSD - Last Valid



what does yours say?

[Gravion2005]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

can you go into your Onkyo Settings and state what yours is set on...

Press the [RECEIVER] REMOTE
MODE button, followed by the
[SETUP] button.
The main menu appears onscreen.

select #5: Listening
Mode Preset,” and then press
[ENTER].
The Listening Mode Preset menu
appears. (select your input)



Analog/PCM - Last Valid
Dolby Digital - Last Valid
DTS - Last Valid
D.F.2ch - Last Valid
D.F.Mono - Last Valid
Multich PCM - Last Valid
192k/176.4k - Last Valid
Dolby True HD - Last Valid
DTS-HD Master - Audio Last Valid
DSD - Last Valid



what does yours say?

Yeah they all say last vaild, but this 905, unlike my 875, does not have multichannel showing or give me any button or ability to choose multichannel. I'm thinking maybe that is where the problem lies. The 875 has that multichannel button for selection and at the source menu as well but this 905 doesnt. Instead it has DIRECT (which i was told here that it's exactly the same as MULTICHANNEL) and some button called PURE AUDIO but when i pic that one, that button lights up blue and the display itself shuts off. The onkyo is still on but it doesn't look like it because all u see is that blue pure audio ring on and the display itself is just off showing nothing. Not sure if either of those are the problem as well. Read the manual but doesn't clarrify anything and Onkyo themselves suck as far as knowledge or customer service help. Go figure lol

[Gravion2005]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

PS2?

(also, to cut out any inknown's...you dont have an optical cable connected from the ps3? dumb question yes I know, but im not in your living room to help! )

NO no dumb question at all, help is help. No sorry it's a typo. It's a 1.3a hdmi cable from the ps3 to the onkyo 905 receiver and then the 905 hdmi 1.3a to the monitor. I turned off the video upscaling from the ps3 including the ps2 smoothing and dvd upscaling that the ps3 has. It's all off. I let the 905 do all the upscaling and work. With the exception of the ps3 sound. I usually put the ps3 at bitstream for anything EXCEPT when i'm watching a blu ray that has HD Maste Audio or Dolby True HD or 5.1 uncompressed/lossless, that's when i have the problem that i've explained where i can only here the left and right speakers. To be honest with u, i have NO IDEA how Good it's supposed to sound over the regular dlby dig. or dts or all channel stereo, or thx, or ddpl2, or anything. Actually no matter what i'm watching, i have NEVER heard of that super CRACKING ans SWITCHING across the speakers like that. Yes i've heard sound coming out of them like when i have the thx neural 7.1 on or the all channel stereo...when i'm using those 2 sources, i can here the same voices and sounds exactly on all of the speakers, not divided either like the voices in the front and the music in the rear. All the same just in each speaker. It's quite perplexing to say the LEAST my man I know the connections are correct, everything is new, i just don't get it. Does the HD sound really make that much of a difference? I am thinking if it doesn't then i would just get rid of this all and go back to a bose like the v20. Experts opinion MORE Than welcomed. Thanks

[crackinhedz]

well, yes HD audio is definitely a step up, especially with a great receiver like yours.

ok, another retard question...

do you have DTS 5.1 checked?

[crackinhedz]

ok, well Im pretty stumped.


Do you have any Blurays with Dolby TrueHD on them? check it out...put PS3 on Linear PCM. Hit the "display" button on the PS3 remote and it will show you the Dolby TrueHD track is playing....see how it sounds?

Could it be that "The Fly" doesnt have a great surround soundtrack to to begin with?

[Gravion2005]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

ok, well Im pretty stumped.


Do you have any Blurays with Dolby TrueHD on them? check it out...put PS3 on Linear PCM. Hit the "display" button on the PS3 remote and it will show you the Dolby TrueHD track is playing....see how it sounds?

Could it be that "The Fly" doesnt have a great surround soundtrack to to begin with?

Yes all tracks are chosen with the exception of something called AA3 or AAC. Yes i have movies with dlby True HD and HD MASTER Audio. Ok i just tried the movie 300 and it's showing dolby Tru HD 48kz 2.2 mbps vc-1 22.6 mbps, then i just tried Dr. STRANGE which is supposed to be 7.1 DTS HD MASTER AUDIO and get this.....it's playing at 5.1 DTS......i think DR STRANGE LIKED ABOUT THE 7.1 DTH HD MASTER AUDIO. The ps3 has it all checked out, the 7.1 speakers work perfect on the regular tv and u can here full stereo sound from all 7.1 speakers but not on this hd format. Right now the display for dr strange is showing dts 5.1 ch. 48khz 1.5 mbps. How WEIRD is this and it's on the PURE AUDIO with the onkyo display off and the blu button on. This is even weirder. LOL

[Gravion2005]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

in the PS3 settings...what do you have checked off as far as frequencies selected? (all 5.1 and 7.1 PCM should be selected)

Settings - Sound Settings - Audio Output Settings






"Direct" setting in the Onkyo is ok as far as settings go. (I like to use THX Select or DDPLIIxCinema...preferences vary)

"Direct
In this mode, audio from the input source is output
directly with minimal processing, providing high-fidelity
reproduction. All of the source’s audio channels are
output as they are."

(SS316SRV, I have never heard of Direct mode "kicking" HDMI out??)



"Neural THX 5.1/7.1
Neural-THX Surround employs psychoacoustic frequency
domain processing, which allows delivery of a
more detailed sound stage, with superior channel separation
and localization of audio elements. The Neural THX
5.1 and Neural THX 7.1 modes can expand any 2-channel
stereo source for 5.1- or 7.1-channel playback"



Ok, this is what im thinking...for some reason, the PS3 is outputting in stereo for some reason, which is why on "Direct" you only heard the Left and Right...and on Neural, the 2 channel was simulated into 5.1-7.1



Id recheck the PS3 settings...

I also noticed that the ONLY thing not checked off on the ps3 settings under the audio hdmi sources was AAC...not sure if that has anything to do with either or if the DIRECT or Pure audio does (this one shuts off the display while a blue button goes on. As stated b4, someone here told me direct and multichannel are the same, though i don't see how.