Blu-ray regaining the lead at Amazon - Blu-ray Forum

Elandyll · 12-19-2007, 04:28 AM

So Much for HD DVD's much touted new wave of buyers (from the firesales) coming in effect.
This proves that what really happened is the effect of the one and only BOGO HD DVD has known until know, and the freak effect of Oprah on HD DVD's PE sales:

http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/

Too many HD DVD fanboys have used those graphs recently to try to sway people saying the tipping point (in their favor) had been reached.
Blu does not need BOGOs to sell all year long (even if a bogo helps against a very strong HD DVD title), wherehas apparently HDVD lives and dies (on charts) by its promotions...

mystiksuicide · 12-19-2007, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elandyll

So Much for HD DVD's much touted new wave of buyers (from the firesales) coming in effect.
This proves that what really happened is the effect of the one and only BOGO HD DVD has known until know, and the freak effect of Oprah on HD DVD's PE sales:

http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/

Too many HD DVD fanboys have used those graphs recently to try to sawy people saying the tipping point (in their favor) had been reached.
Blu does not need BOGOs to sell all year long (even if a bogo helps against a very strong HD DVD title), wherehas apparently HDVD lives and dies (on charts) by its promotions...

Everything is normal again Blu has a commanding lead.

Zyclone · 12-19-2007, 04:50 AM

is it a sexy a commanding lead or just a handsome one?

clyon · 12-19-2007, 04:51 AM

that is funny

Elandyll · 12-19-2007, 04:51 AM

It is merely restarting, but truth be said Amazon is extending their BOGO until stocks run out

mystiksuicide · 12-19-2007, 04:52 AM

68 blu -32 red titles in the top 100. What would you call it?

Zyclone · 12-19-2007, 04:53 AM

a sexy lead it is.

Jack Torrance · 12-19-2007, 05:02 AM

Actually the numbers at eproductwars.com have been off for at least a couple of days as they didn't reflect the results of the recent Fox B1G1 sale. hdgamedb.com typically has more accurate results.

dustin410 · 12-19-2007, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by clyon

Holly Hell! I knew the red side was going down, pun intended, but I didn't think the drop in sales would be so drastic.

Poor bastards. They can practically smell the stinch of death in the air.

...I like it.

darinp2 · 12-19-2007, 06:58 AM

I just checked a little while ago and Amazon's long special of 10 free movies with HD DVD players (3 of which can be chosen by the purchaser and count in the Nielsen numbers) is no longer going on. Not having the 3 free movies push the rankings up would naturally drop HD DVD's average rankings.

--Darin

foots · 12-19-2007, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Torrance

Actually the numbers at eproductwars.com have been off for at least a couple of days as they didn't reflect the results of the recent Fox B1G1 sale. hdgamedb.com typically has more accurate results.

True... sadly very few will realize this.

None of the Fox titles involved in the promo ever appeared on eproductwars despite six or seven of them reaching the top 100.

BluHavik · 12-19-2007, 08:36 AM

K I'm a noob, lets get that out of the way. But I've seen those amazon rankings favor DUD during black Friday week and then seen the NPD say 70+% were Blu. I was under the impression that amazon rankings don't mean squat.

Iron Man · 12-19-2007, 08:52 AM

Blu-ray has been leading for a long time

eproductwars fail to include many highly ranked Blu-ray movies

For instance these movies, they where all in top 100 during FOX BOGO.

Die Hard
Die Hard 3
The day after tomorrow
Die Hard 2
Kingdom of Heaven
Rescue dawn

Highdefdigest is much more precise:

The Don · 12-19-2007, 09:40 AM

that little dip we see right there is what happens when a lot of people buy a certain movie and have to return it...

OH...UMM...WHAT MOVIE..I MEAN SERIES

MIGHT THAT BE?

Razzy · 12-19-2007, 09:50 AM

60 bucks is a damn good price for the 3 Borne movies on Amazon. Universal's missing the boat. Blu versions would've sold through the roof.

frenchglen · 12-19-2007, 10:17 AM

Also the Samsung BD-P1400 player is in the top 100 Electronics. I noticed it was up to 86 yesterday.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...4?ie=UTF8&pg=4

Neo65 · 12-19-2007, 10:44 AM

That website often misses a lot of titles on both sides. For example, during the fox bogo, they failed to take in all those fox titles.

This is another site to check them against (is more accurate but often have their own lost titles as well):
http://charts.highdefdigest.com/versus.aspx

You can also use this directly on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...ef=pd_ts_d_nav

But you stilll need to click on each one to get the rankings. Today @6:44Eastern, Terminator :Judgment Day is #10 on amazon top 10 BD at #192, but neither highdefdigest or eproductwars has it in their ranking.

Sometimes, even amazon query returns wrong data though. I've seen amazon return no titles in the top dvds queries before. It happens.

sj001 · 12-19-2007, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don

that little dip we see right there is what happens when a lot of people buy a certain movie and have to return it...

OH...UMM...WHAT MOVIE..I MEAN SERIES

MIGHT THAT BE?

I don't understand, Planet Earth will play in my DVD players! It's supposed to be Hi-Def, what is going on! I want my money back!

beatboy77 · 12-19-2007, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo65

That website often misses a lot of titles on both sides. For example, during the fox bogo, they failed to take in all those fox titles.

This is another site to check them against (is more accurate but often have their own lost titles as well):
http://charts.highdefdigest.com/versus.aspx

You can also use this directly on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...ef=pd_ts_d_nav

But you stilll need to click on each one to get the rankings. Today @6:44Eastern, Terminator :Judgment Day is #10 on amazon top 10 BD at #192, but neither highdefdigest or eproductwars has it in their ranking.

Sometimes, even amazon query returns wrong data though. I've seen amazon return no titles in the top dvds queries before. It happens.

I have noticed this pattern too. At our site, we update the rankings every 5 minutes and I believe that is the fastest on the Net. Check it out:

http://www.hidefpreview.com/amazon.php

~Josh

TheTenth · 12-20-2007, 10:28 AM

wat it Bourne that got them this surge? as I said in another post, I think lots of non educated people have bought HD DVD for Blu owners as gifts and there will be lots of returns

12-19-2007, 08:52 AM	#13
Iron Man Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	Blu-ray has been leading for a long time eproductwars fail to include many highly ranked Blu-ray movies For instance these movies, they where all in top 100 during FOX BOGO. Die Hard Die Hard 3 The day after tomorrow Die Hard 2 Kingdom of Heaven Rescue dawn Highdefdigest is much more precise: Last edited by Iron Man; 12-19-2007 at 08:57 AM.

12-19-2007, 10:44 AM	#17
Neo65 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007	eproductwars is often incomplete That website often misses a lot of titles on both sides. For example, during the fox bogo, they failed to take in all those fox titles. This is another site to check them against (is more accurate but often have their own lost titles as well): http://charts.highdefdigest.com/versus.aspx You can also use this directly on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...ef=pd_ts_d_nav But you stilll need to click on each one to get the rankings. Today @6:44Eastern, Terminator :Judgment Day is #10 on amazon top 10 BD at #192, but neither highdefdigest or eproductwars has it in their ranking. Sometimes, even amazon query returns wrong data though. I've seen amazon return no titles in the top dvds queries before. It happens. Last edited by Neo65; 12-19-2007 at 10:48 AM.

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12-19-2007, 04:28 AM	#1
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	Blu-ray regaining the lead at Amazon So Much for HD DVD's much touted new wave of buyers (from the firesales) coming in effect. This proves that what really happened is the effect of the one and only BOGO HD DVD has known until know, and the freak effect of Oprah on HD DVD's PE sales: http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/ Too many HD DVD fanboys have used those graphs recently to try to sway people saying the tipping point (in their favor) had been reached. Blu does not need BOGOs to sell all year long (even if a bogo helps against a very strong HD DVD title), wherehas apparently HDVD lives and dies (on charts) by its promotions... Last edited by Elandyll; 12-19-2007 at 04:54 AM.

12-19-2007, 04:50 AM	#3
Zyclone Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Somewhere over the rainbow Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:304	is it a sexy a commanding lead or just a handsome one?

12-19-2007, 04:51 AM	#4
clyon Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Just left of the Alpha Quadrant 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:824 Blu-ray reviews:8	that is funny

12-19-2007, 04:52 AM	#6
mystiksuicide Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Miami Blu-ray collection:305 Blu-ray reviews:27	68 blu -32 red titles in the top 100. What would you call it?

12-19-2007, 04:53 AM	#7
Zyclone Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Somewhere over the rainbow Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:304	a sexy lead it is.

12-19-2007, 05:02 AM	#8
Jack Torrance Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Overlook Hotel Blu-ray reviews:1	Actually the numbers at eproductwars.com have been off for at least a couple of days as they didn't reflect the results of the recent Fox B1G1 sale. hdgamedb.com typically has more accurate results.

12-19-2007, 06:58 AM	#10
darinp2 Expert Member Member since:May 2007	I just checked a little while ago and Amazon's long special of 10 free movies with HD DVD players (3 of which can be chosen by the purchaser and count in the Nielsen numbers) is no longer going on. Not having the 3 free movies push the rankings up would naturally drop HD DVD's average rankings. --Darin Last edited by darinp2; 12-19-2007 at 07:03 AM.

12-19-2007, 08:36 AM	#12
BluHavik Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:STL Blu-ray collection:32	K I'm a noob, lets get that out of the way. But I've seen those amazon rankings favor DUD during black Friday week and then seen the NPD say 70+% were Blu. I was under the impression that amazon rankings don't mean squat.

12-19-2007, 09:40 AM	#14
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	that little dip we see right there is what happens when a lot of people buy a certain movie and have to return it... OH...UMM...WHAT MOVIE..I MEAN SERIES MIGHT THAT BE?

12-19-2007, 09:50 AM	#15
Razzy Special Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Canada Blu-ray collection:179 Blu-ray reviews:2	60 bucks is a damn good price for the 3 Borne movies on Amazon. Universal's missing the boat. Blu versions would've sold through the roof.

12-19-2007, 10:17 AM	#16
frenchglen Active Member Member since:Nov 2006	Also the Samsung BD-P1400 player is in the top 100 Electronics. I noticed it was up to 86 yesterday. http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...4?ie=UTF8&pg=4

12-20-2007, 10:28 AM	#20
TheTenth Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Clermont-Ferrand, France Home Theater Gallery:9 4K collection:98 Blu-ray collection:681 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:11	wat it Bourne that got them this surge? as I said in another post, I think lots of non educated people have bought HD DVD for Blu owners as gifts and there will be lots of returns

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