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Old 02-17-2011, 01:02 AM   #4401
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the first of my complete HT system just gave up the ghost. When my son was playing call of duty black ops on xbox 360 earlier today the video had pink lines like dashes all through it and after retarting the lower right quadrant flashes red (unit is lying flat) and a E74 message shows up on screen. I guess its toast. gotta be hardware i figure.

anyone seen this before?
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:03 AM   #4402
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Oliver and I have discussed at length the Energy Subs, personally... I think Olivers sub is a fairly good sub, if it was priced around $300, it'd be a very good bargin. However the $529 they list it for in the US, it doesn't compare to my eD at $415 or the Hsu VTF-2 MK3 at $550.
I agree it would compare maybe more with the A2-250 and considering the price point to either US or canda id did not make sense to buy this sub, I understand the price point if it would have been made in Canda the whole time but cost cutting measure should help them to but the price also.

I like the S10.3 is seriously a good 10 inch woofer and it's very well made, I am still happy with it and I paid 275$ which was a bargain price for it's performance. I would have never considered getting the old ESW nor the new ESW-C entry level subs.

I say just get the BIC that is a good budget sup.
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the first of my complete HT system just gave up the ghost. When my son was playing call of duty black ops on xbox 360 earlier today the video had pink lines like dashes all through it and after retarting the lower right quadrant flashes red (unit is lying flat) and a E74 message shows up on screen. I guess its toast. gotta be hardware i figure.

anyone seen this before?
Ok, what is it the X-box I am bad at reading between lines although I think it's your X-box I like to get strait to the point
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:08 AM   #4404
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Ok, what is it the X-box I am bad at reading between lines although I think it's your X-box I like to get strait to the point
ya xbox 360
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:11 AM   #4405
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ya xbox 360
Do you happen to have the famous red ring of death around the power button?
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:15 AM   #4406
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Do you happen to have the famous red ring of death around the power button?
yes but only the lower right quadrant is flashing not the other 3... only 1/4th of the ring
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:22 AM   #4407
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yes but only the lower right quadrant is flashing not the other 3... only 1/4th of the ring
Ah ok this is what you were referring to.

I am not the most knowledgeable person about X-box but have you Googled it?
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:25 AM   #4408
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Ah ok this is what you were referring to.

I am not the most knowledgeable person about X-box but have you Googled it?
yes but most pages just says hardware error. we tried wrapping the xbox in towels and leaving it on as one website suggested but that didnt work. it's gotta be the motherboard.
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:34 AM   #4409
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yes but most pages just says hardware error. we tried wrapping the xbox in towels and leaving it on as one website suggested but that didnt work. it's gotta be the motherboard.
This wont cost you a penny to try either.

http://www.xbox360fixed.com/?hop=bestb4u

Just quoting his suggestion

"You would think so, but you don’t. In fact, you only some basic tools: a poking device and a screw driver.

All you have to do is open the system up and adjust how the heat sink sits on the GPU and CPU. You are going to unscrew the heat sink, then put it back in a slightly adjusted position.

Then you turn the system on (with the fan unplugged) and you heat it slightly so the chips realign on the motherboard. You then turn it off, let it cool down (letting the chips harden in place), put it back together and viola, problem solved. The chips are now in position and will no longer over heat because of the adjustment you made. It really is simple."

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Old 02-17-2011, 01:39 AM   #4410
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My problem with the energy sub is the amp part. The drivers are pretty reliable that's why they get the 5-year warranty. How on earth did such a clearly defective unit leave the factory, they must not have any quality control. Getting this back to electronics expo is going to be a big problem for me. They want it double boxed but they didn't bother sending it to me double boxed. When all is set and done I may potentially be out of $100. It's funny how that works. I get a defective item, suffer the frustration of dealing with it and get to fork over some of my money to pay for it all.
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Old 02-17-2011, 01:41 AM   #4411
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My problem with the energy sub is the amp part. The drivers are pretty reliable that's why they get the 5-year warranty. How on earth did such a clearly defective unit leave the factory, they must not have any quality control. Getting this back to electronics expo is going to be a big problem for me. They want it double boxed but they didn't bother sending it to me double boxed. When all is set and done I may potentially be out of $100. It's funny how that works. I get a defective item, suffer the frustration of dealing with it and get to fork over some of my money to pay for it all.
I mean those are now built in China ever since Klipsch bought energy and now Audiovox baught Klipcsh so i donT' expect any Improvement in QC.

You have seen my experience with A Mexican Dell Monitor? I had an issue with a brand new DVD player made in China. Energy never actually had bad issues like this when was made in Canada, Pretty much the whole production of energy S10.3 that was assembled in china had problems withe the front led burning out, why maybe they were taking some random quality leds to put in but the fact that I never had issues with mine had me believe I was lucky but when I saw mine was made in Canada while Energy was Energy and controlled by API, I understood why my led always functioned.

As I said you could return it for an exchange. I understand their drivers are 5 years and amp 1 year while Bryston has amps they guarantee for 15 years and Simaudio for 10 years. I understand it's not the same price range but as you said your unit should have never left the factory.

I cannot take the decision for you but I would return the sub if you can and use the Polk for the time being until you can buy something like an ED A-250 for 350$, the BIC you suggested is a good alternative for an immediate solution.

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Almost everything in our world is made in China. In the future I expect the planet to have a big sticker on it that says "Made in China".


I think there was big scandal with Dell knowingly selling defective items.

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Almost everything in our world is made in China. In the future I expect the planet to have a big sticker on it that says "Made in China".


I think there was big scandal with Dell knowingly selling defective items.
What a joke, thank god it's under warranty but come on, yes a lot of stuff is made in China and anything budget oriented is but as I mentioned smaller high end companies will keep production in their Country of origin and they will keep their name some of them make enough money and not always looking at cutting corners, they look at ways to improve productivity while maintaining the highest quality control. Keep in mind when you want to upgrade the next time we are here to help, I understand it's not always easy to trust people you don't know but it's not like I am trying to sell you something.

I just want to give pros and cons of what you think is best for you.

Now back on your sub Just get the Bic as you suggested if you want a sub now and you are on a budget, they are know to be really good value. I would just use the polk for the time being and get the ED later.

All the best hoping those has been a good learning experience for you. Best of luck with reimbursement or replacement of the unit.

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Almost everything in our world is made in China. In the future I expect the planet to have a big sticker on it that says "Made in China".


I think there was big scandal with Dell knowingly selling defective items.
As for the planet, at this point only china is made in china!!!!

Big AL and I both have the same sub (Energy S10.3) but his is made in Canada and mine is made in China. On mine the blue led power light burned out and his is still working
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This wont cost you a penny to try either.

http://www.xbox360fixed.com/?hop=bestb4u

Just quoting his suggestion

"You would think so, but you don’t. In fact, you only some basic tools: a poking device and a screw driver.

All you have to do is open the system up and adjust how the heat sink sits on the GPU and CPU. You are going to unscrew the heat sink, then put it back in a slightly adjusted position.

Then you turn the system on (with the fan unplugged) and you heat it slightly so the chips realign on the motherboard. You then turn it off, let it cool down (letting the chips harden in place), put it back together and viola, problem solved. The chips are now in position and will no longer over heat because of the adjustment you made. It really is simple."
gonna try this.

thanks Olivier! Merci!
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gonna try this.

thanks Olivier! Merci!
Bienvenue Kev, you speak some French
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Bienvenue Kev, you speak some French
I learned a whole lot watching the Olympics from here last Feb. 2010.

btw, my favorite Vancouver Canuck hockey player is french. Alexandre Burrows.

My wife is German so I know alot in that language.
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I learned a whole lot watching the Olympics from here last Feb. 2010.

btw, my favorite Vancouver Canuck hockey player is french. Alexandre Burrows.

My wife is German so I know alot in that language.
That is relly nice to hear, true there was a lot of french in Vancouver some people here complained that it was not 50-50% but come on the effort was there and for the closing ceremony they did well and also I really liked the Maison du Québec which i believe made people learn a lot about the Province of Québec.

I mean one of friend and former work colleague's wife is German also and he was originally from Mauritius Island. She speaks great french, english and of course German. Coming from europe alot of people speak man languages.
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That is relly nice to hear, true there was a lot of french in Vancouver some people here complained that it was not 50-50% but come on the effort was there and for the closing ceremony they did well and also I really liked the Maison du Québec which i believe made people learn a lot about the Province of Québec.

I mean one of friend and former work colleague's wife is German also and he was originally from Mauritius Island. She speaks great french, english and of course German. Coming from europe alot of people speak man languages.
During the 2010 games I only went to downtown Vancouver one time and saw the caldron flame and Royal Canadian Mint where the medals were on display. Maison du Quebec was in another part of the city that I didnt get to see. I also went to Richmond (outside Vancouver) where the oval was for speed skating and the "Holand house" for the dutch people but the line up was to long to get in to drink some Heiniken beer.

One day I hope to visit Montreal
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Hello Everyone,

I recently purchased a set of Energy Take 5 Classics and am enjoying them pretty well. That in turn has got me curious about what else Energy has to offer in terms of speakers. The Takes give me a good indication of the value and quality of speakers that Energy has to offer.

I have done some researching on the RC-50s and was wondering how they would compare to Axiom's M60 or M80s. Axiom speakers were going to be my setup of choice when I had enough saved up. The Classics were my interim speaker until then. I am glad I got the Classics because I am currently very interested in Energy speakers.

What I am most curious about is the RC-R speaker. From reading this thread, a lot of poster on here speaks very highly of them. Some even saying they are the best surround speakers they have ever owned. Are they really that good. Would anyone know how they compare to Axiom's QS8s?

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