Warner Answers The Calls: The Departed w/ PCM! - Blu-ray Forum

Banjo · 01-20-2007, 01:54 AM

While I'm deaf and don't rely on the audio tracks to enjoy a movie but I can understand why some weren't happy with Warner Bros. because of the lack of a PCM track, all of you just wanted the best quality possible made available to the public.

Just like I want all of the contents including interviews, deleted scenes and all to be subtitled in English for the deaf and hard of hearing. It's quite a frustrating issue we have to deal with on a daily basis. Most Blu-Ray titles, only the main feature (movie) is subtitled while the rest of the contents aren't. That's where I have an issue with some major studios including Warner Bros. Note the "SDH - Main Feature Only". SDH stands for 'Subtitled for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing'. What people don't realize is, there are over 30 million Americans with a degree of hearing loss.

So, all I want from these studios is the best video quality and made accessible to the deaf. Odds are that the special features on 'The Departed' won't be subtitled but I'm buying it no matter what because it's a Scorsese flick.

Sorry to go off-topic but just thought I'll share a pet peeve of mine here since people are often peeved about the lack of a PCM track on their WB titles.

WriteSimply · 01-20-2007, 02:13 AM

Banjo, you may want to request this to paidgeek. Alerting him now to this issue would be beneficial. Also ask him to ask other studios to encode subtitles for all the video or audio-only parts of BD movies.

I for one would like a video-descriptive audio tracks to be a standard for BDs. Encode it with Dolby Digital at 384.

fuad

Banjo · 01-20-2007, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

Banjo, you may want to request this to paidgeek. Alerting him now to this issue would be beneficial. Also ask him to ask other studios to encode subtitles for all the video or audio-only parts of BD movies.

I for one would like a video-descriptive audio tracks to be a standard for BDs. Encode it with Dolby Digital at 384.

fuad

Already made the request a couple nights ago, he said he'll pass it on the others and see what happen. Hopefully the studios will realize that it's necessary to do so, and I think the video-descriptive audio track is absolutely a must on both DVD and Blu-Ray for the legally blind audience. A number of theatres offer it too.

hyperdine · 01-20-2007, 03:06 AM

Wow! This is good news. Hats off to Warner.

Longshot · 01-20-2007, 01:22 PM

Great news and I take this as a sign of things to come with Batman Begins and V for Vendetta!

prettyflaco · 01-20-2007, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banjo

While I'm deaf and don't rely on the audio tracks to enjoy a movie but I can understand why some weren't happy with Warner Bros. because of the lack of a PCM track, all of you just wanted the best quality possible made available to the public.

Just like I want all of the contents including interviews, deleted scenes and all to be subtitled in English for the deaf and hard of hearing. It's quite a frustrating issue we have to deal with on a daily basis. Most Blu-Ray titles, only the main feature (movie) is subtitled while the rest of the contents aren't. That's where I have an issue with some major studios including Warner Bros. Note the "SDH - Main Feature Only". SDH stands for 'Subtitled for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing'. What people don't realize is, there are over 30 million Americans with a degree of hearing loss.

So, all I want from these studios is the best video quality and made accessible to the deaf. Odds are that the special features on 'The Departed' won't be subtitled but I'm buying it no matter what because it's a Scorsese flick.

Sorry to go off-topic but just thought I'll share a pet peeve of mine here since people are often peeved about the lack of a PCM track on their WB titles.

Very good point. I applaud you in sharing that.

prettyflaco · 01-20-2007, 01:59 PM

I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOO hyped about this flick. Best movie last year! IMO.

JTK · 01-20-2007, 02:01 PM

Absolute must-buy, no hesitation especially on this news!

Sinner · 01-20-2007, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prettyflaco

I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOO hyped about this flick. Best movie last year! IMO.

better than Infernal Affairs?

Esox50 · 01-20-2007, 03:42 PM

The PCM track is good news for BD. Now hopefully they will get Batman Begins released on BD by mid-year.

ClaytonMG · 01-20-2007, 04:09 PM

So I am guessing this is going to be a 50gb disc then? Or will it be 30gb on a 50gb disc?

Scorxpion · 01-20-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

So I am guessing this is going to be a 50gb disc then? Or will it be 30gb on a 50gb disc?

Good News i'm very happy with Warner's desicion to include PCM from now and on,and i would like to use all the 50GB on BD.

you know why they have choose Superman Returns on HD-DVD as a top Surround titles because it includes DolbyTHD,what if Superman Returns used the PCM compressed sound and maximise the VC_1 codec to the fullest of BD50.

the Result will be unbelievable and exceed the HD-DVD version.

Gary Murrell · 01-20-2007, 10:44 PM

sweet!

this could be the first title I buy on BR that is dual format, PCM is that much better

TrueHD hasn't thrilled me at all

-Gary

BTBuck1 · 01-21-2007, 04:23 AM

Just added to my wishlist

I'll save my $5bucks, get the LPCM 5.1 and go Blu on this one! w00t

Delta_FX · 01-22-2007, 01:36 AM

Great, finally some PCM support!

Anyone know if Blood Diamond is coming to Blu-Ray. I watched the movie a couple days ago, and I was just amazed. Definately one of the best movies I've ever seen!

Avalanche™ · 01-22-2007, 04:03 AM

what the heck is PCM?

btw im buying this for sure

JoeSp · 01-21-2007, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esox50

The PCM track is good news for BD. Now hopefully they will get Batman Begins released on BD by mid-year.

Yes, the PCM track is good news but my question is why not DoblyTrueHD. Does not DTHD use less space then PCM? And is not PCM a lossey sound track unlike DTHD. I think I might be confused here.

WriteSimply · 01-21-2007, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeSp

Yes, the PCM track is good news but my question is why not DoblyTrueHD. Does not DTHD use less space then PCM? And is not PCM a lossey sound track unlike DTHD. I think I might be confused here.

THD is half the space of PCM. But I believe Warner is using encoders that are written by Microsoft that are geared towards HD-DVD. While the encoder works with THD for HD-DVD, it doesn't work with BD. THD for BD may have to be re-encoded. So far only one title has THD on BD.

The other reason is that Warner is following the suggestions of the BD supporters that they do PCM instead of THD, since most of the BD players out there do not have THD decoding capability.

fuad

dobyblue · 01-21-2007, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeSp

Yes, the PCM track is good news but my question is why not DoblyTrueHD. Does not DTHD use less space then PCM? And is not PCM a lossey sound track unlike DTHD. I think I might be confused here.

TrueHD takes a PCM track and losslessly compresses it. The end result when decoded will be the original PCM track.

PCM is lossless.

dialog_gvf · 01-21-2007, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeSp

Yes, the PCM track is good news but my question is why not DoblyTrueHD. Does not DTHD use less space then PCM? And is not PCM a lossey sound track unlike DTHD. I think I might be confused here.

TrueHD is a lossless encoding of an LPCM soundtrack. The same soundtrack Warner can simply use directly on Blu-ray.

Gary

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01-20-2007, 01:54 AM	#1
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	While I'm deaf and don't rely on the audio tracks to enjoy a movie but I can understand why some weren't happy with Warner Bros. because of the lack of a PCM track, all of you just wanted the best quality possible made available to the public. Just like I want all of the contents including interviews, deleted scenes and all to be subtitled in English for the deaf and hard of hearing. It's quite a frustrating issue we have to deal with on a daily basis. Most Blu-Ray titles, only the main feature (movie) is subtitled while the rest of the contents aren't. That's where I have an issue with some major studios including Warner Bros. Note the "SDH - Main Feature Only". SDH stands for 'Subtitled for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing'. What people don't realize is, there are over 30 million Americans with a degree of hearing loss. So, all I want from these studios is the best video quality and made accessible to the deaf. Odds are that the special features on 'The Departed' won't be subtitled but I'm buying it no matter what because it's a Scorsese flick. Sorry to go off-topic but just thought I'll share a pet peeve of mine here since people are often peeved about the lack of a PCM track on their WB titles.

01-20-2007, 02:13 AM	#2
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	Banjo, you may want to request this to paidgeek. Alerting him now to this issue would be beneficial. Also ask him to ask other studios to encode subtitles for all the video or audio-only parts of BD movies. I for one would like a video-descriptive audio tracks to be a standard for BDs. Encode it with Dolby Digital at 384. fuad

01-20-2007, 03:06 AM	#4
hyperdine Senior Member Member since:Sep 2006	Wow! This is good news. Hats off to Warner.

01-20-2007, 01:22 PM	#5
Longshot Senior Member Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:2	Great news and I take this as a sign of things to come with Batman Begins and V for Vendetta!

01-20-2007, 01:59 PM	#7
prettyflaco Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray collection:51	I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOO hyped about this flick. Best movie last year! IMO.

01-20-2007, 02:01 PM	#8
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	Absolute must-buy, no hesitation especially on this news!

01-20-2007, 03:42 PM	#10
Esox50 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 4K collection:416 Blu-ray collection:488	The PCM track is good news for BD. Now hopefully they will get Batman Begins released on BD by mid-year.

01-20-2007, 04:09 PM	#11
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:836 Blu-ray collection:2376 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	So I am guessing this is going to be a 50gb disc then? Or will it be 30gb on a 50gb disc?

01-20-2007, 10:44 PM	#13
Gary Murrell Junior Member Member since:Dec 2006	sweet! this could be the first title I buy on BR that is dual format, PCM is that much better TrueHD hasn't thrilled me at all -Gary

01-21-2007, 04:23 AM	#14
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	Just added to my wishlist I'll save my $5bucks, get the LPCM 5.1 and go Blu on this one! w00t

01-22-2007, 01:36 AM	#15
Delta_FX Active Member Member since:Jan 2007	Great, finally some PCM support! Anyone know if Blood Diamond is coming to Blu-Ray. I watched the movie a couple days ago, and I was just amazed. Definately one of the best movies I've ever seen!

01-22-2007, 04:03 AM	#16
Avalanche™ Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Trading Score:1	what the heck is PCM? btw im buying this for sure

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