1080p Pic Quality vs 1080i

[BluStreak]

Should we see a MAJOR difference between 1080p and 1080i? We just got Blu Ray for Christmas, and have purchased a couple Disney movies. Underdog and Remember the Titans. It appears the picture is sharper, and the sound is better.
Rented a movie, Superbad, and the picture really didn't appear as good as the Disney movies. Maybe it's our imagination.
We've been getting a superb picture with 1080i.
Have the Sony 60 inch SXRD HD tv, and now (finally) the Sony Blu Ray. We have Yamaha receiver, and Klipsch speakers. (4 in wall with center speaker)
Should we install firmware update? Do we need to do a setup each time we view a movie?
Help and thanks!!!

[Sonny]

Hi & welcome to Blu

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by BluStreak

Should we see a MAJOR difference between 1080p and 1080i? We just got Blu Ray for Christmas, and have purchased a couple Disney movies. Underdog and Remember the Titans. It appears the picture is sharper, and the sound is better.
Rented a movie, Superbad, and the picture really didn't appear as good as the Disney movies. Maybe it's our imagination.
We've been getting a superb picture with 1080i.
Have the Sony 60 inch SXRD HD tv, and now (finally) the Sony Blu Ray. We have Yamaha receiver, and Klipsch speakers. (4 in wall with center speaker)
Should we install firmware update? Do we need to do a setup each time we view a movie?
Help and thanks!!!

I think keeping up with Firmware updates is a good idea.

As far as the 3 movies go, I don't have any of them. But Blu-ray movies PQ are not all the same. Some will look really sharp and clear, others will be a little bit softer. Maybe someone else can answer you better.

[nhaase]

With 1080p what I have noticed is less artifacts on the screen, and the picture is brighter. Now, when I say "less artifacts," I am not talking about film grain. There is a sticky thread here about film grain, just know that a movie like 300 is supposed to be very grainy.

Not all movies will have the same picture quality, so the fact that Superbad on blu-ray may not look as good to you as Underdog is nothing to worry about, it is just differences in the way those two movies were encoded to blu-ray.

As for firmware update, what player do you have? Go to Sony's website and check the page for your player to see if there is a firmware update. Checking that page every now and then will ensure you stay up to date!

For more answers to your questions, use the search function on the forums page and check the sticky threads for answers.

[stockstar1138]

not your imagination at all. disney puts out the best picture quality and sound quality movies out there. you also have to remember superbad wasn't done on a real expensive budget, so the best equipment wasn't nessecarly used. you will notice that when different types of cameras and films are used, you will see and notice different results in the quality of your movie.

fyi: i have both remember the titans and superbad and the quality difference is very exactly what you observed and i have a 1080p, so it appears your 1080i is doing its job welcome to blu-ray.

[Sonny]

I'm glad to here you guys went Blu this Holiday season movies very in the PQ by what studio made the film the equipment they used & the encoding has a lot to do with it also & of course there are many other variables such as age of the film/movie. How long have you had your 60'' Sony? And always do firmware updates

[Living Near Shamu]

Originally Posted by Sonny

I'm glad to here you guys went Blu this Holiday season movies very in the PQ by what studio made the film the equipment they used & the encoding has a lot to do with it also & of course there are many other variables such as age of the film/movie. How long have you had your 60'' Sony? And always do firmware updates

Sonny, why the Avatar change? And what does it mean? Official Xmas Tree Cutter?

[npanzeca]

My question is this for anyone who can help: Do you get a better picture of HDMI if you connect directly into the devise? I use an HDMI switch and was wondering if that would alter the picture in any way? Thanks.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by npanzeca

My question is this for anyone who can help: Do you get a better picture of HDMI if you connect directly into the devise? I use an HDMI switch and was wondering if that would alter the picture in any way? Thanks.

Theoritically yes, some quality will be lost. However, it is probably nothing that your eye can pick up on.

[npanzeca]

Thanks because I am picky and the picture just doesn't look as sharp as i think it should. I'm using 1080i and am trying to decide what is wrong. Most people I know probably would think it is great, I think its good but not what I want it to be, looks like 1080p may be in my near future.

[yensid]

I'm a newby and I have an issue with a Hitachi 1080i and Sony Blu-Ray player. POTC 2 seems grainy in dark areas. Could this be an HDMI issue? My plasma has a DVI connection so I have it connected to my Sony via an HDMI-DVI cable.

Help!

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by yensid

I'm a newby and I have an issue with a Hitachi 1080i and Sony Blu-Ray player. POTC 2 seems grainy in dark areas. Could this be an HDMI issue? My plasma has a DVI connection so I have it connected to my Sony via an HDMI-DVI cable.

Help!

Could be the tv trying to run it through hdmi then dvi and I dont know how big your tv is but bigger than 42-46" you will see a difference between 1080p and 1080i I'm no rocket scientist.. but those movies look stunning on our xbr4's / other 1080p tv's. hope that helps a little.

[yensid]

The Hitachi is 42 inch. I was going to try component to see if there is a difference.

[SamInNorthCakalakey]

You should not see anymore artifacts on a 1080i monitor than a 1080p monitor. The i and p represent how your monitor refreshes the image on the screen and does not affect the actual output unless your talking about image blur which might happen on fast moving scenes on 1080i monitors.

Now the model of TV might add some crap to the image. You can really see differences in high end TV's with similar specs to lower end models. Also, at that size of a screen you will see more detail than with a smaller screen so you will now when a studio does a bad transfer to Blu.

Originally Posted by nhaase

With 1080p what I have noticed is less artifacts on the screen, and the picture is brighter. Now, when I say "less artifacts," I am not talking about film grain. There is a sticky thread here about film grain, just know that a movie like 300 is supposed to be very grainy.

Not all movies will have the same picture quality, so the fact that Superbad on blu-ray may not look as good to you as Underdog is nothing to worry about, it is just differences in the way those two movies were encoded to blu-ray.

As for firmware update, what player do you have? Go to Sony's website and check the page for your player to see if there is a firmware update. Checking that page every now and then will ensure you stay up to date!

For more answers to your questions, use the search function on the forums page and check the sticky threads for answers.

[davidxiphoid]

On my 46" I can def tell a difference between 1080i and 1080p. 1080i looks great but the 1080p looks stellar. More detailed and vibrant for sure.

[bootman]

You say that you have good results at 1080i.
Is that the limit of your set?
What is the exact model?

As far as what looks better, many factors come into play.
If you have a 1080p native set, you always see a 1080p picture even if you feed it a 1080i signal.
At this point you are comparing the conversion capabilities of the set vs the player. (well on blurays the player is only changing a 1080p24 signal to a 1080p60 when you normally output 1080p. To output 1080i an additional conversion takes place)
If your set can take a 1080p signal but is only a 1080i native set (or a 720p native set that can accept 1080p signals) then you are not going to see a true 1080p picture anyway.
For the best possible picture quality you would want the signal to be "touched" the least amount of times as possible.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by BluStreak

Should we see a MAJOR difference between 1080p and 1080i?

Do you mean 1080i versus 1080p output from the player on the same set? That will depend on the set.

The reality is that the 1080i carries all the picture data of 1080p. Nothing at all is lost. The problems occur when the set tries to reconstitute a 1080p picture from the 1080i input. Some sets will simply throw away the other field and line double the 1920x540p field, thus losing half the resolution. Others will do the same only in the moving parts of the image. Some will properly notice that the signal source is film, and put together the fields into a frame restoring the proper frames.

The reason for this is that sets are still mostly designed toward HDTV signals, which may have interfield motion that needs to be managed (you can't simply combine those fields).

Originally Posted by BluStreak

Have the Sony 60 inch SXRD HD tv, and now (finally) the Sony Blu Ray.

Which model (A2000, A2020 or A3000)?

[powersfoss]

I can only say that the image displayed on my Sony 60" A2000 SXRD at 1080i looks a bit fuzzier then it does at its native 1080p resolution. For the best PQ and especially if your eyes pick up on the details, I think it's a no brainer to go with 1080p whenever possible.

[Star56]

Originally Posted by powersfoss

I can only say that the image displayed on my Sony 60" A2000 SXRD at 1080i looks a bit fuzzier then it does at its native 1080p resolution. For the best PQ and especially if your eyes pick up on the details, I think it's a no brainer to go with 1080p whenever possible.

This is the placebo effect. You believe it is true and therefore experience it as true. There is no "fuzziness" with 1080i vs 1080p. It is your imagination.

[WickyWoo]

I think it:s more that your 1080i sources are heavily compressed TV broadcasts