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[Jeff Kleist]

Yeah, most people don't do that kind of math though. They see $29.99 and go *gah*

[svenge]

The $29.99 price point only really works for people w/ rather large screens who can invite a bunch of friends over and charge a few bucks "admission" each...

[4K2K]

Originally Posted by Supernaut

Jeff have you heard about this? http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment...-more-lifelike - basically it says Peter Jackson is now filming The Hobbit at 48 FPS. Can the Blu-Ray contain an accurate representation of this picture if that is the case? Or will they just drop 24 frames per second?

Originally Posted by Paul H

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Well, hopefully by the time the blu hits in 2 years, tools will have improved to compensate

Couldn't they encode it in a similar way to how the multi-view codec is used for 3D? ie. for a 3D title, non-3D players 'see' only the encoding of the main view, not the other data used to make up the 2nd eye view.

Couldn't it be encoded at 1080p24 but with extra data that new players (not made yet) could use to make the full 48 fps version, but existing players wouldn't see that extra data - so would decode/output a normal 24 fps?

[Jeff Kleist]

No, because this isn't something you can just toss. It has to do with the flow of movement, amd software will have to be developed to work kinda like Blu 3D compression to find the correct 24fps frames or create new ones. I'm sure WETA is up to the task

No TVs are a multiple of 48 refresh, so they couldn't display it anyway, and they're done with making additions to the format

[Uxi]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

No TVs are a multiple of 48 refresh, so they couldn't display it anyway, and they're done with making additions to the format

Doesn't 48 go evenly to 240 (5x)?

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by Uxi

Doesn't 48 go evenly to 240 (5x)?

Sounds right for 2D but you would need a 480 refresh for 3D, which is the purpose for a clearer picture of 48fps film in the first place.

[4K2K]

Originally Posted by Paul H

Sounds right for 2D but you would need a 480 refresh for 3D, which is the purpose for a clearer picture of 48fps film in the first place.

Only the shutter glasses type, not the polarized type. Though it wouldn't need to be 480Hz refresh - it only would if you wanted 5:5 pull-down. And current 3D TVs still have 3:2 pull-down judder when displaying 3D too don't they (ie. don't they output it at 60 fps per eye?)?

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by 4K2K

current 3D TVs still have 3:2 pull-down judder when displaying 3D too don't they (ie. don't they output it at 60 fps per eye?)?

From the Panasonic 3D plasma sets I'm familiar with - Yes. The Viera plasma 3D Tvs use 3:2 pull-down automatically with a 24p Direct in film source @ 60Hz. Also multiple native film rates (no 3:2 pull-down) of 24p Direct in @ 48Hz and 24p Direct in @ 96Hz.

[Max_Genus]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Porco is my favorite Miyazaki movie, and the very LAST clue, it's not that either I actually own a bunch of cells from it

My fav Miyazaki (and Hisaishi score) as well!
I first saw it when a friend loaned it to me on VHS. When the Japanese DVD was released I ordered it and bought a region-free DVD player just to watch it. LOL

I was secretly hoping this would be the next release... Ah, well.

[Max_Genus]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Yeah, most people don't do that kind of math though. They see $29.99 and go *gah*

I still find it worrisome, though.

I've heard ticket sales in general are still down. The two do not bode well for theater owners or those of us who still prefer the movie house experience, which can be hard to find these days anyway... Especially one with worthwhile presentation.

[Jeff Kleist]

Now you all know why I failed my early morning math classes

Only the shutter glasses type, not the polarized type. Though it wouldn't need to be 480Hz refresh - it only would if you wanted 5:5 pull-down. And current 3D TVs still have 3:2 pull-down judder when displaying 3D too don't they (ie. don't they output it at 60 fps per eye?)?

Real polarized sets like the set Samsung is working on with RealD still need that refresh rate, because they're still doing L/R switching

The "passive retarded" polarized sets LG and Vizio are marketing are junk. They cut the resolution in half and have a filter on the front with a different polarization on the odd and even rows of pixels. In addition, using this method causes a great deal of interlacing style artifacting, and from what I've seen, kills, or at least mutes the eye poking effects people want so badly.

Basically they found a software method to turn their existing TVs into 3DTVs without the need for expensive high quality panels, unfortunately like so many kludge solutions, it doesn't quite work out like people want it to

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

Now you all know why I failed my early morning math classes



Real polarized sets like the set Samsung is working on with RealD still need that refresh rate, because they're still doing L/R switching

The "passive retarded" polarized sets LG and Vizio are marketing are junk. They cut the resolution in half and have a filter on the front with a different polarization on the odd and even rows of pixels. In addition, using this method causes a great deal of interlacing style artifacting, and from what I've seen, kills, or at least mutes the eye poking effects people want so badly.

Basically they found a software method to turn their existing TVs into 3DTVs without the need for expensive high quality panels, unfortunately like so many kludge solutions, it doesn't quite work out like people want it to

I would like to see if someone can do experiments to see if the human mind can take the images from an FPR TV and still have the preception of a 1080p image, since the data from both sides put together has the data of 1080p resolution. Or it may be that both eyes need to see full 1080p images in order to experience Full HD.

At any rate, I think Walmart will sell a lot of the Vizio 32" FPR sets because they are only going to be $498, and they will do 1080p in 2D mode and have a 120hz refresh rate. I'm more interested in seeing how the Zscreen passive system turns out, since it'll have full HD in both eyes. However, from what I have read, they won't be out until next year and the tech is very expensive.

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

It's also going to encourage pirates to develop or purchase HDMI boxes so they can get pristine HD copies weeks after opening with the greatest of ease. I'm very curious if they can embed in the signal some kind of ID number that will let them stomp such people, but i have my doubts, at least with launch that's the case

Isn't the issue of data compression still going reduce the quality of VOD? They won't really be pristine HD will they?

[Jeff Kleist]

Isn't the issue of data compression still going reduce the quality of VOD? They won't really be pristine HD will they?

A lot more pristine than the cam they took opening weekend

At any rate, I think Walmart will sell a lot of the Vizio 32" FPR sets because they are only going to be $498, and they will do 1080p in 2D mode and have a 120hz refresh rate. I'm more interested in seeing how the Zscreen passive system turns out, since it'll have full HD in both eyes.

Of course. People buy on price first and foremost, they typically don't do any research when making a purchase. While Vizio has certainly gotten better from the "boomerang" days, they are still a bargain basement brand that uses the cheapest parts possible to produce the cheapest TVs possible.

I simply advocate every day that if you can afford $600 for a new TV, you can afford $1000, you're just going to have to save awhile longer and buy something you'll be happy with for a long time, instead of settling for second best. If you want a TV for the bedroom or the kid's room, by all means buy a Vizio, but don't skimp on the main TV.

[octagon]

Are there any signs of the ice breaking on any of Paramount's higher profile properties this year? I know there are limits on what you can say about specific titles but is there any reason to hope we might see something like Rosemary's Baby, Chinatown, Double Indemnity, Stalag 17, The War of the Worlds, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, etc...is there at least any movement in those directions?

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by octagon

Are there any signs of the ice breaking on any of Paramount's higher profile properties this year? I know there are limits on what you can say about specific titles but is there any reason to hope we might see something like Rosemary's Baby, Chinatown, Double Indemnity, Stalag 17, The War of the Worlds, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, etc...is there at least any movement in those directions?

Give me Double Indemnity and I'll be as happy as a pig in pooh, although seeing any of these titles would certainly be encouraging.

[Batman1980]

Jeff, any word on a release soon for the fantastic Runaway Jury, been waiting for it since I got into blu.

[AnimeOnBlu]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Jeff, any word on a release soon for the fantastic Runaway Jury, been waiting for it since I got into blu.

It is available in Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Germany if you want to import it.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by nathan_393

Give me Double Indemnity and I'll be as happy as a pig in pooh, although seeing any of these titles would certainly be encouraging.

If I could only have one Paramount title that would likely be the one I'd go with.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

A lot more pristine than the cam they took opening weekend



Of course. People buy on price first and foremost, they typically don't do any research when making a purchase. While Vizio has certainly gotten better from the "boomerang" days, they are still a bargain basement brand that uses the cheapest parts possible to produce the cheapest TVs possible.

I simply advocate every day that if you can afford $600 for a new TV, you can afford $1000, you're just going to have to save awhile longer and buy something you'll be happy with for a long time, instead of settling for second best. If you want a TV for the bedroom or the kid's room, by all means buy a Vizio, but don't skimp on the main TV.

I have to correct something. The Vizio 42" and 47" inch FPR sets are 120hz. The 32" is 60hz. And I read they are going to make them all the way down to 22".

[svenge]

Now that MGM has renewed its home video distribution deal w/ Fox, what does that mean for the remaining 9 James Bond films yet to be released on Blu-ray? Will they start to appear later this year, or is it going to be stalled until the November 2012 theatrical release of Bond 23?