The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

I'm doing it out of principle. New Line is obviously doing this to make more money by having us buy a needless 2 disc layout. A Blu-Ray is capable of holding 9 hours of HD footage, they could've easily fit the films on one disc each, but chose not to because New Line is greedy and screwing us the consumers again for profit. I will wait many more years until they do the right thing and release the Extended versions whole.

I don't think it's New Line that is screwing people, but Warner Bros., correct me if I am wrong. I think Warner now owns the rights to the films and thus its home video department is responsible for the Blu Rays.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

I'm doing it out of principle. New Line is obviously doing this to make more money by having us buy a needless 2 disc layout. A Blu-Ray is capable of holding 9 hours of HD footage, they could've easily fit the films on one disc each, but chose not to because New Line is greedy and screwing us the consumers again for profit. I will wait many more years until they do the right thing and release the Extended versions whole.

what ..... the..... f@ck??????!!?? where is Newline/Warner being "greedy" by releasing the films on 2 discs?????? they are still sold the same way.... As one movie. they aren't inflating the msrp anymore past what it would've been on one disc. this *****ing about the movie being on one disc is just childish and stupid at best

[lucretia]

does the US version
get the replica ring ?

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvd/d...isc-set/649453

[DaViD Boulet]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

I'm doing it out of principle. New Line is obviously doing this to make more money by having us buy a needless 2 disc layout. A Blu-Ray is capable of holding 9 hours of HD footage, they could've easily fit the films on one disc each, but chose not to because New Line is greedy and screwing us the consumers again for profit. I will wait many more years until they do the right thing and release the Extended versions whole.

There's no "greed" because the price of the set isn't dependent on whether the film is spread out on two discs or contained on one disc. The issue is one of ease-of-compression, and that's a call by WB in this case. But either way, it's not "greed".

[vargo]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

I'm doing it out of principle. New Line is obviously doing this to make more money by having us buy a needless 2 disc layout. A Blu-Ray is capable of holding 9 hours of HD footage, they could've easily fit the films on one disc each, but chose not to because New Line is greedy and screwing us the consumers again for profit. I will wait many more years until they do the right thing and release the Extended versions whole.

On a BD-50, 9hrs of video with nothing else would give you about 12Mbps video bitrate.

Add on a single DTS-MA track and you are looking at under 9Mbps for video.

Now add on some other audio tracks, menus, and also account for the fact that BDs are rarely 100% full, and you could be talking about 7Mbps or less for the video.

If you think 7Mbps is enough for good quality video at 1080p then you don't know anything about video encoding. And with all due respect, in that case you should not be commenting on the matter.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by vargo

On a BD-50, 9hrs of video with nothing else would give you about 12Mbps video bitrate.

Add on a single DTS-MA track and you are looking at under 9Mbps for video.

Now add on some other audio tracks, menus, and also account for the fact that BDs are rarely 100% full, and you could be talking about 7Mbps or less for the video.

If you think 7Mbps is enough for good quality video at 1080p then you don't know anything about video encoding. And with all due respect, in that case you should not be commenting on the matter.

I think the price is reasonable for 3 very long movies. And as I said before, I don't care if the movies are on 1 disc or 2, as long as the PQ and AQ are stellar. Mayve if more movies were split up, some BD player company would get their thumbs out of their backsides and come up with a multi-disc BD player.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Great idea, I will do that. I'm shooting for May 28th for this year's start date on the Lord of the Rings forum group, for anyone interested (link: https://forum.blu-ray.com/group.php?groupid=71). It seems to be a suitable warm-up for the EE release a month later.

I TOTALLY want to do this again... and hopefully this time personal stuff wont make me forget about the reading group this time... No more hiatus from me... hopefully

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Great idea, I will do that. I'm shooting for May 28th for this year's start date on the Lord of the Rings forum group, for anyone interested (link: https://forum.blu-ray.com/group.php?groupid=71). It seems to be a suitable warm-up for the EE release a month later.

Once again I won't be able to join you guys I will be off to Asia for the entire month of June.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Once again I won't be able to join you guys I will be off to Asia for the entire month of June.

Well I hope you're just sad that you can't join and not that you are going on a trip... I wish I could go somewhere but I'm stuck in good ol Indiana for ETERNITY!

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by vargo

On a BD-50, 9hrs of video with nothing else would give you about 12Mbps video bitrate.

Add on a single DTS-MA track and you are looking at under 9Mbps for video.

Now add on some other audio tracks, menus, and also account for the fact that BDs are rarely 100% full, and you could be talking about 7Mbps or less for the video.

If you think 7Mbps is enough for good quality video at 1080p then you don't know anything about video encoding. And with all due respect, in that case you should not be commenting on the matter.

+1

I was really hoping this "Its split across 2 discs!!! " thing had passed... sadly I guess not... so much for being happy about seeing a new master of fellowship, and the trilogy in their EXTENDED versions in Hi Def... I think I'm going to start complaining that there's black bars at the top and bottom just to give myself something to complain about

[radagast]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Once again I won't be able to join you guys I will be off to Asia for the entire month of June.

So you won't be able to access the internet, nor take a book with you?

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

Well I hope you're just sad that you can't join and not that you are going on a trip... I wish I could go somewhere but I'm stuck in good ol Indiana for ETERNITY!

Really? I just noticed where you live. I live in Indianapolis myself.

[nametag]

There's definitely no way ROTK could fit onto one disc, but I reckon the others probably could, if WB could be bothered. Regardless, it's not worth boycotting the release for. I think putting the extras on 9 DVDs as opposed to 3 BDs, and not seemlessly branching with the theatricals annoy me more than the disc-splitting thing, tbh.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by radagast

So you won't be able to access the internet, nor take a book with you?



Really? I just noticed where you live. I live in Indianapolis myself.

Yup, I don't live in Naptown I'm a Snooty Carmelite So I've been told anyway

I grew up in Knightstown though, also not too far from Indy.

[Phoenix Theory]

im a bit confused this version is the extended cut and the other one was the theatrical cut right so is the extended cut better? is the pq better or should i just get the old trilogy set rather than get thi with a bunch of extras i wont care about.

[Rizor]

Fans typically prefer the extended versions - more story, more depth of characters. Only issue is they're long and may disrupt the pacing of the theatrical versions. This isn't out yet, so no one knows about the PQ, but the press release made it sound like they were making an effort to do better than the theatrical set.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by vargo

On a BD-50, 9hrs of video with nothing else would give you about 12Mbps video bitrate.

Add on a single DTS-MA track and you are looking at under 9Mbps for video.

Now add on some other audio tracks, menus, and also account for the fact that BDs are rarely 100% full, and you could be talking about 7Mbps or less for the video.

If you think 7Mbps is enough for good quality video at 1080p then you don't know anything about video encoding. And with all due respect, in that case you should not be commenting on the matter.

Logical thinking is a wonderful thing. Unfortunately, the people whom you are trying to convince with these FACTS will not heed your "pandering" (as they will call it) as anything more than lies. They are all !

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by xphoenix23

im a bit confused this version is the extended cut and the other one was the theatrical cut right so is the extended cut better? is the pq better or should i just get the old trilogy set rather than get thi with a bunch of extras i wont care about.

Well, with the extended editions, you get almost 2 hours more footage. That's a full length movie worth of extra story, character, and depth.

Personally, I can't watch the theatricals anymore now that I've seen the extendeds.

As for the extras? If you don't care about them, it's a good thing that they won't be affecting the case size much. Then, you can "get rid of them" and still have very similar sized cases to every other case on your shelf.

Basically, it will come down to a price vs feature presentation content debate for yourself. Extended versions are definitely worth any extra price tag in my eyes.

[Phoenix Theory]

well theres no ruh to gt this so i think ill go with the extended cut.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by xphoenix23

im a bit confused this version is the extended cut and the other one was the theatrical cut right so is the extended cut better? is the pq better or should i just get the old trilogy set rather than get thi with a bunch of extras i wont care about.

We won't know about PQ comparibility until the EE's are released. Some people object to the length of the EE's, but if you like the story, the EE's are the way to go (especially for plot and character development) and I consider them a gift. I know of no other movie that has received the special treatment that Jackson has lavished on the LotR EE's. If length is an issue, just split the viewing up over multiple days. Also, the special features for the EE's, although already available with the DVD versions, are far superior to the special features provided with the TE's - and for just about any other movie. You may consider giving them a look.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by radagast

So you won't be able to access the internet, nor take a book with you?

I won't have that much room to carry the bible size Lord Of The Ring book I have I wish I was able to find them in e-book format since I will have my e-book for the 22 hour plane ride. I will be mostly with my wife and her family over there, not going to have much chance to pop in here and post unfortunatly