Citizen Kane (1941) (70th Anniversary Edition) - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Penthouse · 05-13-2011, 01:30 PM

Robert Harris · 05-13-2011, 04:56 PM

I'm not certain that I understand the thinking behind this release.

Ambersons, a superb film even in its truncated and re-shot mode, is still a masterpiece, and at 88 minutes, is a very easy HD mastering job.

The inclusion of RKO 281 seems odd, as the film has been out on DVD for years.

Having done a comparison of the original cutting continuities of Ambersons years ago, there is no doubt that in its original state, it would be one of the dozen or so finest films ever produced. The re-cuts and re-shoots alone make for a very interesting study. As I recall, there was a continuous shot going through the first major sequence at the Amberson mansion, with its introduction of the characters, that ran around five minutes without cutaways. That shot is now in bits and pieces. Painful to think about.

Re: the potential that the footage might be found, this is quite a different situation from Metropolis, which was in heavy international release. AFAIK, there were only two 35mm nitrate prints of MA, one that was used as a studio cutting copy, the other shipped to Mr. Welles in South America.

RAH

Jr7936 · 05-13-2011, 06:20 PM

yes but if you look on amazon.com the non exclusive amazon.com one is only 5 dollars less to preorder, so i am thinking 5 dollars might be worth it for the amazon.com exclusive version

Der Spieler · 05-13-2011, 07:15 PM

Just too much stuff.

I'll take the movie alone for around 20 bucks, please...

Stationary Explorer · 05-13-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Der Spieler

Just too much stuff.

I'll take the movie alone for around 20 bucks, please...

How about $34.99?

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Kane-A...5314466&sr=8-3

It looks like WB has me by the gonads this time. I cannot pass on Ambersons. One of my favorite films.

kpkelley · 05-13-2011, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stationary Explorer

How about $34.99?

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Kane-A...5314466&sr=8-3

It looks like WB has me by the gonads this time. I cannot pass on Ambersons. One of my favorite films.

That's the dvd.

captveg · 05-13-2011, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stationary Explorer

How about $34.99?

http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-Kane-A...5314466&sr=8-3

It looks like WB has me by the gonads this time. I cannot pass on Ambersons. One of my favorite films.

That's the DVD of Citizen Kane.

Drewza89 · 05-13-2011, 07:53 PM

Unless an incredible deal comes along, I'll just hold on to my 2-disc DVD until WB puts out a blu-ray without the extra junk.

This set would have been a must-buy if they had put Magnificent Ambersons and/or RKO 281 on a BD. What a boneheaded move!

ShellOilJunior · 05-13-2011, 08:12 PM

Looks like the UK version might be the way to go.

RBBrittain · 05-14-2011, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Looks like the UK version might be the way to go.

What UK version? As I posted earlier, Universal owns Citizen Kane in the UK. Unless they're working with WB (doubtful), there won't be a barebones UK version of CK like GWTW, WoO, etc...

ShellOilJunior · 05-14-2011, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBBrittain

What UK version? As I posted earlier, Universal owns Citizen Kane in the UK. Unless they're working with WB (doubtful), there won't be a barebones UK version of CK like GWTW, WoO, etc...

Not much info on it yet but here's hoping...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Citizen-Kane...5401510&sr=8-2

octagon · 05-14-2011, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Not much info on it yet but here's hoping...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Citizen-Kane...5401510&sr=8-2

I hope there's a single release somewhere too but I wouldn't read too much into that 'alert me' page. They have the exact same thing for Chinatown.

sfmarine · 05-14-2011, 08:37 PM

I don't need all of that fluff but I'm really looking forward to seeing this in HD.

Sporadic · 05-15-2011, 03:54 AM

Amazon spilled the beans on what's going to be in it.

(This is the Amazon exclusive version)

Bonus Disc: The Magnificent Ambersons (DVD)
Bonus Disc: RKO 281 (DVD)
Bonus Disc: American Experience: The Battle Over Citizen Kane (DVD)
Commentary by Peter Bogdanovich
Commentary by Roger Ebert
The Battle Over Citizen Kane Documentary
Opening: World Premier of Citizen Kane Vintage Featurettes
Interview with Ruth Warrick
Interview with Robert Wise
Storyboards
Call Sheets
Still Photography with Commentary by Roger Ebert
Deleted Scenes
Ad Campaign
Press Book
Opening Night
10/30/38 Mercury Theatre Broadcast of War of the Worlds (Audio Only)
10/28/40 KTSA, San Antonio Broadcast of H.G. Wells Meets Orson Welles (Audio Only)
Theatrical Trailer

wilky61 · 05-15-2011, 03:56 PM

I really don't care to pay more than about $25-30 for either of these two (including TMA in the CK set). Maybe they'll hit a deal-of-the-day sale after release or something... I guess if CK+TMA appears in my Goldbox for $47.49 I'll preorder it and hope for another price drop...

ShellOilJunior · 05-16-2011, 12:21 PM

$40+ is too much for a set with more DVD's than Blu-rays.

sfmarine · 05-16-2011, 03:01 PM

+1

The Duke · 05-16-2011, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfmarine

I don't need all of that fluff but I'm really looking forward to seeing this in HD.

+1 I hate these UCE with mass produced "collectable" trinkets and the massive shelf space they take up. Brits to the rescue. Amazon UK has a listing with no release date for Ben Hur that they call "Ultimate Collector's Edition" but sure looks like a movie only release from the artwork -

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003BNY6XU

And the listing for Citizen Kane definitely looks like a movie only release -

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Citizen-Kane.../dp/B003ARSQD8

Jr7936 · 05-16-2011, 06:11 PM

I just had the amazon exclusive citizen kane in my gold box for 47.49 so I decided to bite on it =)

TylerDurden · 05-16-2011, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jr7936

I just had the amazon exclusive citizen kane in my gold box for 47.49 so I decided to bite on it =)

You mean the DVD box set with bonus Blu-ray?

05-13-2011, 01:30 PM	#41
Penthouse Active Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Alexandria, VA Home Theater Gallery:58 4K collection:185 Blu-ray collection:1108 Blu-ray reviews: 6	81zNzRWRpHL__AA1500_.jpg

05-14-2011, 08:37 PM	#53
sfmarine Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:The Swan Station aDdIcTeD 2 LOST PSN:U5MC51473 Home Theater Gallery:18 4K collection:936 Blu-ray collection:2317 DVD collection:276 MA collection:461 Digital collection:492 iTunes collection:534 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:43	I don't need all of that fluff but I'm really looking forward to seeing this in HD. Last edited by Deciazulado; 05-19-2011 at 12:40 PM. Reason: thread split

05-13-2011, 04:56 PM	#42
Robert Harris Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007	I'm not certain that I understand the thinking behind this release. Ambersons, a superb film even in its truncated and re-shot mode, is still a masterpiece, and at 88 minutes, is a very easy HD mastering job. The inclusion of RKO 281 seems odd, as the film has been out on DVD for years. Having done a comparison of the original cutting continuities of Ambersons years ago, there is no doubt that in its original state, it would be one of the dozen or so finest films ever produced. The re-cuts and re-shoots alone make for a very interesting study. As I recall, there was a continuous shot going through the first major sequence at the Amberson mansion, with its introduction of the characters, that ran around five minutes without cutaways. That shot is now in bits and pieces. Painful to think about. Re: the potential that the footage might be found, this is quite a different situation from Metropolis, which was in heavy international release. AFAIK, there were only two 35mm nitrate prints of MA, one that was used as a studio cutting copy, the other shipped to Mr. Welles in South America. RAH

05-13-2011, 06:20 PM	#43
Jr7936 Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:1299 DVD collection:167 Digital collection:49 Trading Score:245	yes but if you look on amazon.com the non exclusive amazon.com one is only 5 dollars less to preorder, so i am thinking 5 dollars might be worth it for the amazon.com exclusive version

05-13-2011, 07:15 PM	#44
Der Spieler Banned Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Canada Blu-ray collection:72 Trading Score:4	Just too much stuff. I'll take the movie alone for around 20 bucks, please...

05-13-2011, 07:53 PM	#48
Drewza89 Special Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:USA 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Trading Score:3	Unless an incredible deal comes along, I'll just hold on to my 2-disc DVD until WB puts out a blu-ray without the extra junk. This set would have been a must-buy if they had put Magnificent Ambersons and/or RKO 281 on a BD. What a boneheaded move!

05-13-2011, 08:12 PM	#49
ShellOilJunior Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:USA Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:10	Looks like the UK version might be the way to go.

05-15-2011, 03:54 AM	#54
Sporadic Member Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Cocoa Beach, FL Trading Score:3	Amazon spilled the beans on what's going to be in it. (This is the Amazon exclusive version) Bonus Disc: The Magnificent Ambersons (DVD) Bonus Disc: RKO 281 (DVD) Bonus Disc: American Experience: The Battle Over Citizen Kane (DVD) Commentary by Peter Bogdanovich Commentary by Roger Ebert The Battle Over Citizen Kane Documentary Opening: World Premier of Citizen Kane Vintage Featurettes Interview with Ruth Warrick Interview with Robert Wise Storyboards Call Sheets Still Photography with Commentary by Roger Ebert Deleted Scenes Ad Campaign Press Book Opening Night 10/30/38 Mercury Theatre Broadcast of War of the Worlds (Audio Only) 10/28/40 KTSA, San Antonio Broadcast of H.G. Wells Meets Orson Welles (Audio Only) Theatrical Trailer

05-15-2011, 03:56 PM	#55
wilky61 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Atlanta, GA Blu-ray collection:10 Blu-ray reviews: 24 Trading Score:1	I really don't care to pay more than about $25-30 for either of these two (including TMA in the CK set). Maybe they'll hit a deal-of-the-day sale after release or something... I guess if CK+TMA appears in my Goldbox for $47.49 I'll preorder it and hope for another price drop...

05-16-2011, 12:21 PM	#56
ShellOilJunior Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:USA Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:10	$40+ is too much for a set with more DVD's than Blu-rays.

05-16-2011, 03:01 PM	#57
sfmarine Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:The Swan Station aDdIcTeD 2 LOST PSN:U5MC51473 Home Theater Gallery:18 4K collection:936 Blu-ray collection:2317 DVD collection:276 MA collection:461 Digital collection:492 iTunes collection:534 Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:43	+1

05-16-2011, 06:11 PM	#59
Jr7936 Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:1299 DVD collection:167 Digital collection:49 Trading Score:245	I just had the amazon exclusive citizen kane in my gold box for 47.49 so I decided to bite on it =)

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